Basic vt100 console "noisy
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 20:14:24 -0500 From: Jason Mitchell To: Clay Daniels Subject: Re: Basic vt100 console "noisy" I wanted to share what Jason sent me privately: "Clay, The extra tty's are accessible by Control-Alt-F2 through F4 if they're enabled (I think they are by default). Jason M." This is good information, which I did not know. I tried it with my older 2014 HP Pavilion that I'm trying to load NetBSD on, and this did not seem to work. However, I was having the same trouble with "noisy system messages" on my OpenBSD install on my new home-built Ryzen 7 3700x machine and it worked like MAGIC! Eliminated the noise entirely, and like he says there are three of these extra tty logins. CTL-ALT-F(1,2,OR 3) What I think I need to do is find room on my new machine for NetBSD:-;
Re: [netbsd-users] Re: Basic vt100 console "noisy"
On Fri, 22 Nov 2019, at 07:40, Rhialto wrote: : : > If you have a serial terminal at hand, it is always fun to try. I > operated a DEC Alpha with a serial console, even though it had display > hardware. I had a real Wyse terminal running in vt52 emulation mode as a console for a number of years until the power supply blew and I was quoted an outrageous price to replace it ... while it was running it was awesome to have that in the corner of the room - with screen running it was as functional as a regular pseudo-terminal ... Regards, Malcolm -- Malcolm Herbert m...@mjch.net
Re: Basic vt100 console "noisy"
On Thu 21 Nov 2019 at 00:21:27 +, Clay Daniels wrote: > Thanks so much Johnny & Olaf. The other consoles look promising. Does this > relate to the NetBSD Guide Chap 3.9 Disk Prep process for selecting > bootblocks? > > http://www.netbsd.org/docs/guide/en/chap-exinst.html#exinst-disk-preparation-process Sort of. In the sense that if you select a serial console, the green output goes to the serial port and not to the VGA screen. Johnny is correct in pointing out that perhaps I should not have called these switchable virtual terminals "console", but people are sloppy and the thing is called "wscons" which makes it harder. > I have just been selecting the BIOS console, and maybe I should select one > of the serial ports, or option g : Use existing bootblocks ? > > I think the console selection is the clue. I will play with this and try a > fresh install with one of the serial ports, like com0. You can even change the console in an existing installation (although personally I've never needed it). Look at the manual page of installboot, and the option -o console=... . You can also (for the current boot only) set the console from the boot loader. See manual page boot(8), command "consdev". If you have a serial terminal at hand, it is always fun to try. I operated a DEC Alpha with a serial console, even though it had display hardware. > Clay -Olaf. -- Olaf 'Rhialto' Seibert -- rhialto at falu dot nl ___ Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on \X/ no account be allowed to do the job. --Douglas Adams, "THGTTG" signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Basic vt100 console "noisy"
On 2019-11-20 23:20, Rhialto wrote: On Wed 20 Nov 2019 at 21:44:56 +0100, Johnny Billquist wrote: You might want to look at the syslogd configuration then? That might be one source of messages being printed. Furthermore, they are only printed to the first console. If you enable more (ttyE[0-3] in /etc/ttys I think, and wscons=YES in /etc/rc.conf), you can login on other consoles that are quiet. Well, those are not even the console. They might appear on the same physical screen, but from the OS point of view, they are different terminals. But yes, you have a good point there. Switch to another terminal, and you should also not be bothered by output to the console. Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: b...@softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Re: Basic vt100 console "noisy"
On Wed, 20 Nov 2019, Rhialto wrote: Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 23:20:40 +0100 From: Rhialto To: Johnny Billquist Cc: Clay Daniels , netbsd-users , Scott Bennett Subject: Re: Basic vt100 console "noisy" On Wed 20 Nov 2019 at 21:44:56 +0100, Johnny Billquist wrote: You might want to look at the syslogd configuration then? That might be one source of messages being printed. Furthermore, they are only printed to the first console. If you enable more (ttyE[0-3] in /etc/ttys I think, and wscons=YES in /etc/rc.conf), you can login on other consoles that are quiet. Thanks so much Johnny & Olaf. The other consoles look promising. Does this relate to the NetBSD Guide Chap 3.9 Disk Prep process for selecting bootblocks? http://www.netbsd.org/docs/guide/en/chap-exinst.html#exinst-disk-preparation-process I have just been selecting the BIOS console, and maybe I should select one of the serial ports, or option g : Use existing bootblocks ? I think the console selection is the clue. I will play with this and try a fresh install with one of the serial ports, like com0. Clay -Olaf. -- Olaf 'Rhialto' Seibert -- rhialto at falu dot nl ___ Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on \X/ no account be allowed to do the job. --Douglas Adams, "THGTTG" clays.sh...@sdf.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.org
Re: Basic vt100 console "noisy"
On Wed 20 Nov 2019 at 21:44:56 +0100, Johnny Billquist wrote: > You might want to look at the syslogd configuration then? That might be one > source of messages being printed. Furthermore, they are only printed to the first console. If you enable more (ttyE[0-3] in /etc/ttys I think, and wscons=YES in /etc/rc.conf), you can login on other consoles that are quiet. -Olaf. -- Olaf 'Rhialto' Seibert -- rhialto at falu dot nl ___ Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on \X/ no account be allowed to do the job. --Douglas Adams, "THGTTG" signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Basic vt100 console "noisy"
On 2019-11-20 21:39, Clay Daniels wrote: I'm having real trouble with my console window if I'm not running an X window. There is constant system "chatter" about devices and such that interupts what I'm trying to do. The worst problem is when I try to use vi and it interupts me in mid-line. I realize it may be my old machine, a 2014 HP Pavilion23 All-in-one. But I have allocated the whole disk to NetBSD, and would like to get it to work. I'm going to try a re-install, but will hold off to see if anyone has any suggestions on how to "quiet down" the console "chatter". You might want to look at the syslogd configuration then? That might be one source of messages being printed. Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: b...@softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol
Basic vt100 console "noisy"
I'm having real trouble with my console window if I'm not running an X window. There is constant system "chatter" about devices and such that interupts what I'm trying to do. The worst problem is when I try to use vi and it interupts me in mid-line. I realize it may be my old machine, a 2014 HP Pavilion23 All-in-one. But I have allocated the whole disk to NetBSD, and would like to get it to work. I'm going to try a re-install, but will hold off to see if anyone has any suggestions on how to "quiet down" the console "chatter". Thanks, Clay clays.sh...@sdf.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.org
