Re: NetBSD Localization
On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 11:06:09 -0500, Ivan "Rambius" Ivanov wrote: > On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 9:20 PM Valery Ushakov wrote: > > > > On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 13:42:55 +0100, Martin Neitzel wrote: > > > > > > I can use setxkbmap in X to change the input language. If I am in text > > > > mode and not in X how can I switch the input language? > > > > > > See wsconsctl(8), in particular the first example there. > > > > I guess the question is not about setting the layout, but switching > > between say latin and cyrillic within one layout. > > This is exactly what I was looking for - switching from latin > cyrillic. Is it possible to do that outside of X11? As I said, it doesn't look like there's a locking version of mode switch. Obviously, typing the other alphabet while constantly holding mode switch is not practical :) I haven't touched this in ages, so my memory is _very_ hazy (serial consoles ftw!). It should be relatively trivial to add to wskbd.c a locking mode switch (like caps lock for caps) along the current non-locking (like shift for caps). I think the next stumbling block will be the adding the keysym mappings. I never was too motiviated to look at this b/c wscons can only do 8-bit encodings (koi8, 8859-5) and with the shift to unicode they are not very useful in the console. Also, have I already mentioned serial consoles? :) So while the problem of switching to the other group within the same layout is simple in isolation, it's the other surrounding issues that conspire to make it a bit of a drag. -uwe
Re: NetBSD Localization
Hello uwe, On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 9:20 PM Valery Ushakov wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 13:42:55 +0100, Martin Neitzel wrote: > > > > I can use setxkbmap in X to change the input language. If I am in text > > > mode and not in X how can I switch the input language? > > > > See wsconsctl(8), in particular the first example there. > > I guess the question is not about setting the layout, but switching > between say latin and cyrillic within one layout. This is exactly what I was looking for - switching from latin cyrillic. Is it possible to do that outside of X11? Regards rambius -- Tangra Mega Rock: http://www.radiotangra.com
Re: NetBSD Localization
On Sun, 25 Feb 2024, Valery Ushakov wrote: Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2024 05:19:50 +0300 From: Valery Ushakov To: netbsd-users@netbsd.org Subject: Re: NetBSD Localization On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 13:42:55 +0100, Martin Neitzel wrote: I can use setxkbmap in X to change the input language. If I am in text mode and not in X how can I switch the input language? See wsconsctl(8), in particular the first example there. I guess the question is not about setting the layout, but switching between say latin and cyrillic within one layout. Hi, If you don't want to change the keyboard layout then you need an input system capable of typing the language you are interested in. And a font with those characters. And a character encoding compatible with wscons. If I remember correctly mlterm has wscons support, you could use that with emacs and get unicode support plus several input systems. Remember to configure a suitable font for mlterm. I haven't tryed that though, ask for advise in the list. adr
Re: NetBSD Localization
On Sat, Feb 24, 2024 at 13:42:55 +0100, Martin Neitzel wrote: > > I can use setxkbmap in X to change the input language. If I am in text > > mode and not in X how can I switch the input language? > > See wsconsctl(8), in particular the first example there. I guess the question is not about setting the layout, but switching between say latin and cyrillic within one layout. KS_Mode_switch only shifts to the last two columns while pressed, there seems to be no way to toggle it (there's only update_modifier(id, type, 0, MOD_MODESHIFT) call with "toggle" set to false). -uwe
Re: NetBSD Localization
> I can use setxkbmap in X to change the input language. If I am in text > mode and not in X how can I switch the input language? See wsconsctl(8), in particular the first example there. NetBSD's apropos(1) command is full-text and phrase-based and can help you to find the proper commands/man-pages yourself. In this case, apropos -1 -8 -5 -7 keyboard layout works pretty nicely. "man -k ..." does just the same kind of search. The result order is based on "relevance" of the search words as a phrase in the man-page. Be imaginative about the search words. apropos -1 -8 -5 -7 input language would direct you to NLS(7), describing the POSIX "locale" system. Because apropos(1) standard search/result ouput is often voluminous, I usually prefer "apropos -l" legacy searches. These just cover the one-line "NAME" entry of any man-page, such as NAME ls – list directory contents The phrases here, just single search words. Results in this case: % apropos -l -1 -8 -5 -7 keyboard x68k/loadkmap(1) - load and set the x68k console keyboard map % apropos -l -1 -8 -5 -7 console wscons.conf(5) - workstation console config file i386/console(4) - i386 console interface amiga/console(4) - amiga console interface iteconfig(8) - modify console attributes at run time x86/boot_console(8) - selection of a console device in the x86 bootloader x68k/loadkmap(1) - load and set the x68k console keyboard map x68k/loadfont(1) - load and set font for the NetBSD /x68k console That is, no reference to wsconsctl(1) here, a misleading entry for iteconfig(8) (Amiga/Atari only), but the wscons.conf(5) is a proper hit here. Martin Neitzel
