Re: slightly OT hardware question
On Thu, 26 May 2016, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: >> FYI, I use the TrendNET TU3-ETG v1.0R with NetBSD. This is a gigabit >> NIC with USB3 (though it uses USB2 in NetBSD). It works well and might >> give you some more options on smaller machines like that. > H That sounds promising. Pi-B+ ? Pi2/3 ? In service ? What are you > using it for ? The NIC shows up in > ifconfig ? Inquiring minds wanna know ;-). Thanks & TIA I've only used the adapter on AMD64 and i386. I'm only assuming it works on ARM. Sorry, I should have stated that. Here is a bit more info just for fun: % uname -a NetBSD m83.parsec.com 7.0 NetBSD 7.0 (GENERIC.201509250726Z) i386 dmesg: axen0 at uhub3 port 2 axen0: ASIX Elec. Corp. AX88179, rev 2.10/1.00, addr 8 axen0: AX88179 axen0: Ethernet address d8:eb:97:b3:ab:d9 rgephy0 at axen0 phy 3: RTL8169S/8110S/8211 1000BASE-T media interface, rev. 5 rgephy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseT-FDX, auto ifconfig: axen0: flags=8802 mtu 1500 capabilities=3ff00 capabilities=3ff00 capabilities=3ff00 enabled=0 ec_capabilities=1 ec_enabled=0 address: d8:eb:97:b3:ab:d9 media: Ethernet autoselect (10baseT half-duplex) status: no carrier -Swift
Re: slightly OT hardware question
On 05/27/16 01:35, Kimihiro Nonaka wrote: 2016-05-27 4:28 GMT+09:00 William A. Mahaffey III : PC Engines apu2? H Looks good, slightly weird board size (a bit smaller than mini-ITX), but I like AMD jaguars. Do you have any in service ? Thanks :-). I've posted NetBSD/amd64 7.99.29 dmesg of apu2b4. http://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi?do=view&id=2973 worked: serial console (com0), Intel I210 NIC (wm[0-2]), mSATA SSD (wd0), USB 3.0 Host (xhci0) not tested: SD card slot (sdhc0) Regards, *Swt* :-). What are you using it for, router ? Firewall ? Porting code ? Something else ? Thanks & TIA. -- William A. Mahaffey III -- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr.
Re: slightly OT hardware question
On 05/26/16 15:01, Swift Griggs wrote: On Wed, 25 May 2016, Hal Murray wrote: Have you considered adding a USB-Ethernet adapter to a Pi? FYI, I use the TrendNET TU3-ETG v1.0R with NetBSD. This is a gigabit NIC with USB3 (though it uses USB2 in NetBSD). It works well and might give you some more options on smaller machines like that. Thanks, Swift H That sounds promising. Pi-B+ ? Pi2/3 ? In service ? What are you using it for ? The NIC shows up in ifconfig ? Inquiring minds wanna know ;-). Thanks & TIA -- William A. Mahaffey III -- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr.
Re: slightly OT hardware question
2016-05-27 4:28 GMT+09:00 William A. Mahaffey III : >> PC Engines apu2? > > H Looks good, slightly weird board size (a bit smaller than > mini-ITX), but I like AMD jaguars. Do you have any in service ? Thanks :-). I've posted NetBSD/amd64 7.99.29 dmesg of apu2b4. http://dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi?do=view&id=2973 worked: serial console (com0), Intel I210 NIC (wm[0-2]), mSATA SSD (wd0), USB 3.0 Host (xhci0) not tested: SD card slot (sdhc0) Regards, -- Kimihiro Nonaka
Re: slightly OT hardware question
On Wed, 25 May 2016, Hal Murray wrote: > Have you considered adding a USB-Ethernet adapter to a Pi? FYI, I use the TrendNET TU3-ETG v1.0R with NetBSD. This is a gigabit NIC with USB3 (though it uses USB2 in NetBSD). It works well and might give you some more options on smaller machines like that. Thanks, Swift
Re: slightly OT hardware question
On 05/26/16 10:32, Kimihiro Nonaka wrote: 2016-05-26 0:52 GMT+09:00 William A. Mahaffey III : Does anyone onlist know of any small (RPi-ish), cheap boxen w/ 2 or more working RJ45 ports (100 Mbit is OK), FreeBSD or NetBSD compatible ? I would like to use them as a firewall & an asterisk box. I found Utilite, kinda pricey, also Banana-Pi R1 (5 ports, however apparently wired somewhat weirdly on the board, NetBSD networking doesn't work there last I heard). Anyone got a little beastie like this working ? TIA & have a good one. PC Engines apu2? H Looks good, slightly weird board size (a bit smaller than mini-ITX), but I like AMD jaguars. Do you have any in service ? Thanks :-). -- William A. Mahaffey III -- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr.
Re: slightly OT hardware question
Hello, On Thu, 26 May 2016 17:19:01 + (UTC) John Klos wrote: > > There's also Erlite-3 at a much lower price point. > > https://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/hands_on_experience_with_edgerouter > > As far as I know, MIPS is still broken. Depends on what exactly you mean by 'MIPS' - that's quite a lot of quite different hardware. Mine work fine with recent -current. > USB on the EdgeRouter locks up after heavy use, so you can't do > updates and probably can't even update packages reliably. That's another dwctwo-variant, isn't it? have fun Michael
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There's also Erlite-3 at a much lower price point. https://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/hands_on_experience_with_edgerouter As far as I know, MIPS is still broken. USB on the EdgeRouter locks up after heavy use, so you can't do updates and probably can't even update packages reliably. And even if you could, the last time I tried -current, which was about a month ago, it was as stable as a Windows machine at DEF CON. Seagate Dockstars and PogoPlugs are cheap and reasonably fast. Unlike the Raspberry Pi, they have their own real gigabit ethernet which doesn't share the USB bus. With a USB-ethernet, they're easily capable of routing / NATing 50 Mbps. The Seagates are good because they're faster (1.2 GHz instead of 800 MHz) and have more than one USB, but require one of those USB ports to be used for storage. PogoPlugs are good because they're cheap and take an SD card for NetBSD storage. They're also really cheap (about $10 each). https://hackaday.io/project/407-install-netbsd-on-a-pogoplug John
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On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 09:40:45AM -0700, Andy Ruhl wrote: > On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 8:57 AM, wrote: > > There's also Erlite-3 at a much lower price point. > > https://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/hands_on_experience_with_edgerouter > > If we're talking MIPS now (on the arm list no less), what about > something like this: APU2 is amd64, or "he started it!" :-)
Re: slightly OT hardware question
On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 8:57 AM, wrote: > There's also Erlite-3 at a much lower price point. > https://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/hands_on_experience_with_edgerouter If we're talking MIPS now (on the arm list no less), what about something like this: https://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/gl-inet/gl-inet_64xx Not supported by NetBSD as far as I can tell but it would be pretty cool if it was. Andy
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There's also Erlite-3 at a much lower price point. https://blog.netbsd.org/tnf/entry/hands_on_experience_with_edgerouter
Re: slightly OT hardware question
2016-05-26 0:52 GMT+09:00 William A. Mahaffey III : > Does anyone onlist know of any small (RPi-ish), cheap boxen w/ 2 or more > working RJ45 ports (100 Mbit is OK), FreeBSD or NetBSD compatible ? I would > like to use them as a firewall & an asterisk box. I found Utilite, kinda > pricey, also Banana-Pi R1 (5 ports, however apparently wired somewhat > weirdly on the board, NetBSD networking doesn't work there last I heard). > Anyone got a little beastie like this working ? TIA & have a good one. PC Engines apu2? -- NONAKA Kimihiro
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On 05/26/16 03:25, David Brownlee wrote: On 26 May 2016 at 07:19, Hal Murray wrote: w...@hiwaay.net said: Does anyone onlist know of any small (RPi-ish), cheap boxen w/ 2 or more working RJ45 ports (100 Mbit is OK), FreeBSD or NetBSD compatible ? I would like to use them as a firewall & an asterisk box. ... Have you considered adding a USB-Ethernet adapter to a Pi? ... particularly as the onboard Ethernet on at least the original Pi was via USB :) H I didn't know that, really ? I have one (RPi-B+, 700 MHz single core ARM) running NetBSD & being my NTP server, maybe I need to rethink my (limited) knowledge of network devices on these beasties. There have been some posts some months ago indicating that the various RJ45's on a BPi-R1 being wired through the USB controller was giving problems porting NetBSD to that board, is that a correct recollection ? If so, is it still valid ? TIA & have a good one. -- William A. Mahaffey III -- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr.
Re: slightly OT hardware question
On 05/26/16 01:25, Hal Murray wrote: w...@hiwaay.net said: Does anyone onlist know of any small (RPi-ish), cheap boxen w/ 2 or more working RJ45 ports (100 Mbit is OK), FreeBSD or NetBSD compatible ? I would like to use them as a firewall & an asterisk box. ... Have you considered adding a USB-Ethernet adapter to a Pi? My understanding is those don't work so well, & result in slightly 'custom'/weird/whatever practices to accomodate. I did consider it & wound up not liking it :-/. That's why I asked for 2 or more RJ45's, maybe I should have said 'native RJ45 ports', not wired in weird like the BPi-R1 -- William A. Mahaffey III -- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr.
Re: slightly OT hardware question
On 26 May 2016 at 07:19, Hal Murray wrote: > > > w...@hiwaay.net said: > > Does anyone onlist know of any small (RPi-ish), cheap boxen w/ 2 or more > > working RJ45 ports (100 Mbit is OK), FreeBSD or NetBSD compatible ? I would > > like to use them as a firewall & an asterisk box. ... > > Have you considered adding a USB-Ethernet adapter to a Pi? ... particularly as the onboard Ethernet on at least the original Pi was via USB :)
Re: slightly OT hardware question
On 05/25/16 15:50, Timo Buhrmester wrote: 2 or more working RJ45 ports [...] Banana-Pi R1 (5 ports Huh? The Banana-Pi has one Ethernet port. Where did you get the 5 from? NetBSD networking doesn't work there last I heard I'm running a wifi access point on a Banana Pi using NetBSD (-current, but 7-stable worked too, IIRC). The BPi-R1 (I *think* that's the right full name) has 5 RJ45 ports, 1 GBE wired normally, the other 4 somehow wired through the USB controller. http://www.banana-pi.org/r1.html -- William A. Mahaffey III -- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr.
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w...@hiwaay.net said: > Does anyone onlist know of any small (RPi-ish), cheap boxen w/ 2 or more > working RJ45 ports (100 Mbit is OK), FreeBSD or NetBSD compatible ? I would > like to use them as a firewall & an asterisk box. ... Have you considered adding a USB-Ethernet adapter to a Pi? -- These are my opinions. I hate spam.
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> There is a Banana-Pi router that has 5 ports. I have one here but > have not had time to try and install NetBSD to it yet. Thanks for the correction, I mistook the 'R' in "R1" for "Revision". Hadn't heard of the router board yet.
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> 2 or more working RJ45 ports > [...] > Banana-Pi R1 (5 ports Huh? The Banana-Pi has one Ethernet port. Where did you get the 5 from? > NetBSD networking doesn't work there last I heard I'm running a wifi access point on a Banana Pi using NetBSD (-current, but 7-stable worked too, IIRC).
Re: slightly OT hardware question
On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 8:52 AM, William A. Mahaffey III wrote: > > Does anyone onlist know of any small (RPi-ish), cheap boxen w/ 2 or more > working RJ45 ports (100 Mbit is OK), FreeBSD or NetBSD compatible ? I would > like to use them as a firewall & an asterisk box. I found Utilite, kinda > pricey, also Banana-Pi R1 (5 ports, however apparently wired somewhat > weirdly on the board, NetBSD networking doesn't work there last I heard). > Anyone got a little beastie like this working ? TIA & have a good one. I've had good luck with the Seagate Dockstar, but it only has 1 ethernet port. It's so cheap (used on Ebay) that you shouldn't have trouble buying a USB adapter. Apparently FreeBSD runs on it as well. I haven't tried. Andy
slightly OT hardware question
Does anyone onlist know of any small (RPi-ish), cheap boxen w/ 2 or more working RJ45 ports (100 Mbit is OK), FreeBSD or NetBSD compatible ? I would like to use them as a firewall & an asterisk box. I found Utilite, kinda pricey, also Banana-Pi R1 (5 ports, however apparently wired somewhat weirdly on the board, NetBSD networking doesn't work there last I heard). Anyone got a little beastie like this working ? TIA & have a good one. -- William A. Mahaffey III -- "The M1 Garand is without doubt the finest implement of war ever devised by man." -- Gen. George S. Patton Jr.
