Re: NetCAT 10.0 evaluation
> > 4. Wasn't there a discussion about only 3 releases per calendar year? > This would lower the rush and increase quality IMO. > I would not be opposed to that. The quarterly release proposal has not formally been adopted, i.e., it's been proposed and we're going along with it until we feel that maybe it's the wrong direction -- and three times a year could be good too. Gj On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 6:49 PM Jiří Kovalský wrote: > Hi Geertjan, > > nice post-mortem summary. My rough comments: > > 1. The proposal represents very minimalistic version of NetCAT, which > however in the past used to be a platform with a defined start and end > dates, where people gathered around particular features, distributed > work, reviewed test specs for accuracy (updated old ones or created > brand new ones) and then started testing daily builds, discussed their > findings, filed issues, reviewed tutorials, participated in surveys. > Activity of individual participants was tracked and evaluated at the end > and best participants were rewarded for their activity and contribution > and then everyone had time to catch up with other things/projects/life > so from that point of view I can't predict if and how same people will > keep contributing in the long term. > > 2. I agree we need to invite volunteers and immediately start finding > tribe leaders and then utilize them. Not doing this for NetCAT 10.0 was > a big mistake. Typically these should be the best performers from > previous runs. > > 3. Identified blockers need constant attention. Testing stuff is only a > step A. Step B (fixing bugs) is equally if not more important. > > 4. Wasn't there a discussion about only 3 releases per calendar year? > This would lower the rush and increase quality IMO. > > -Jirka > > Dne 30.10.2018 v 11:55 Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a): > > > Hi all, > > > > For me, this was the first NetCAT process, we're trying to wrap it up now > > and tomorrow -- so please do one or two more if you can find the time, > just > > send a mail and say which one you'd like to do -- and for me it was the > > first time to take part at all. > > > > I have put some thoughts here: > > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cwiki.apache.org_confluence_display_NETBEANS_NetCAT-2B10.0-2BEvaluation=DwIBaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4=7Z4USmmnTaTdZQ7-0HkIgLmqQzsU6L9ZN7bIwTrKC20=p5CkwD-PJ2NjKkjLpZM2x1zuLS_EkwtF-rOVETXwtfY= > > > > Others, feel free to add your thoughts and evaluations, or reply in this > > thread with them, and thanks for your enthusiasm and great job, I think, > > for how much we've done in so short a time. > > > > Gj > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: netcat-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: netcat-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > >
Re: NetCAT 10.0 evaluation
Hi Geertjan, nice post-mortem summary. My rough comments: 1. The proposal represents very minimalistic version of NetCAT, which however in the past used to be a platform with a defined start and end dates, where people gathered around particular features, distributed work, reviewed test specs for accuracy (updated old ones or created brand new ones) and then started testing daily builds, discussed their findings, filed issues, reviewed tutorials, participated in surveys. Activity of individual participants was tracked and evaluated at the end and best participants were rewarded for their activity and contribution and then everyone had time to catch up with other things/projects/life so from that point of view I can't predict if and how same people will keep contributing in the long term. 2. I agree we need to invite volunteers and immediately start finding tribe leaders and then utilize them. Not doing this for NetCAT 10.0 was a big mistake. Typically these should be the best performers from previous runs. 3. Identified blockers need constant attention. Testing stuff is only a step A. Step B (fixing bugs) is equally if not more important. 4. Wasn't there a discussion about only 3 releases per calendar year? This would lower the rush and increase quality IMO. -Jirka Dne 30.10.2018 v 11:55 Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a): Hi all, For me, this was the first NetCAT process, we're trying to wrap it up now and tomorrow -- so please do one or two more if you can find the time, just send a mail and say which one you'd like to do -- and for me it was the first time to take part at all. I have put some thoughts here: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cwiki.apache.org_confluence_display_NETBEANS_NetCAT-2B10.0-2BEvaluation=DwIBaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4=7Z4USmmnTaTdZQ7-0HkIgLmqQzsU6L9ZN7bIwTrKC20=p5CkwD-PJ2NjKkjLpZM2x1zuLS_EkwtF-rOVETXwtfY= Others, feel free to add your thoughts and evaluations, or reply in this thread with them, and thanks for your enthusiasm and great job, I think, for how much we've done in so short a time. Gj - To unsubscribe, e-mail: netcat-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: netcat-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
NetCAT 10.0 evaluation
Hi all, For me, this was the first NetCAT process, we're trying to wrap it up now and tomorrow -- so please do one or two more if you can find the time, just send a mail and say which one you'd like to do -- and for me it was the first time to take part at all. I have put some thoughts here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/NetCAT+10.0+Evaluation Others, feel free to add your thoughts and evaluations, or reply in this thread with them, and thanks for your enthusiasm and great job, I think, for how much we've done in so short a time. Gj
