Re: [RFC] div64_64 support II

2007-03-06 Thread Andi Kleen
 The problem with these algorithms that tradoff one or more
 multiplies in order to avoid a divide is that they don't
 give anything and often lose when both multiplies and
 divides are emulated in software.

Actually on rereading this: is there really any Linux port
that emulates multiplies in software? I thought that was only
done on really small microcontrollers or smart cards; but anything
32bit+ that runs Linux should have hardware multiply, shouldn't it?

-Andi
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Re: [RFC] div64_64 support II

2007-03-06 Thread Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker
Andi Kleen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Actually on rereading this: is there really any Linux port
 that emulates multiplies in software? I thought that was only
 done on really small microcontrollers or smart cards; but anything
 32bit+ that runs Linux should have hardware multiply, shouldn't it?

SPARCv7 (sun4/sun4c) doesn't have hardware mul/div. This includes
SparcStation 1, 1+, 2, SLC, ELC, IPC and IPX.

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ilmari
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Re: [RFC] div64_64 support II

2007-03-06 Thread David Miller
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker)
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:43:14 +0100

 Andi Kleen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Actually on rereading this: is there really any Linux port
  that emulates multiplies in software? I thought that was only
  done on really small microcontrollers or smart cards; but anything
  32bit+ that runs Linux should have hardware multiply, shouldn't it?
 
 SPARCv7 (sun4/sun4c) doesn't have hardware mul/div. This includes
 SparcStation 1, 1+, 2, SLC, ELC, IPC and IPX.

Right and the cypress sun4m parts don't do multiply/divide in
hardware either.

I believe the Alpha does divide in software too, see
arch/alpha/lib/divide.S
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Re: [RFC] div64_64 support II

2007-03-06 Thread H. Peter Anvin

Andi Kleen wrote:

The problem with these algorithms that tradoff one or more
multiplies in order to avoid a divide is that they don't
give anything and often lose when both multiplies and
divides are emulated in software.


Actually on rereading this: is there really any Linux port
that emulates multiplies in software? I thought that was only
done on really small microcontrollers or smart cards; but anything
32bit+ that runs Linux should have hardware multiply, shouldn't it?


SPARC  v8 does multiplies using an MSTEP instruction.

-hpa
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