Re: [netmod] [i2rs] I2RS interim 5/27 10:00am - 11:30am EDT (Webex)

2015-05-27 Thread Jeffrey Haas

 On May 27, 2015, at 1:41 AM, Juergen Schoenwaelder 
 j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de wrote:
 
 On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 05:13:59PM -0400, Susan Hares wrote:
 The I2RS interim is schedule for Wednesdsay 5/27 10:00am – 11:30am. The 
 interim schedule opens 30 minutes early to allow speakers to check their 
 mike and make sure there slides are ready. 
 
 
 
 There are two topics on the agenda: 
 
 
 
 1)  I2RS Protocol requirements  with discussion on the following drafts  
 
 a.   
 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-haas-i2rs-ephemeral-state-reqs/  (WG 
 adoption 5/26 to 6/9/2015) 
 
 b.  
 http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-haas-i2rs-netmod-netconf-requirements 
 (WG adoption 5/26 to 6/9/2015)
 
 
 I can't make it to this meeting. My suggestion is to merge the above
 two I-Ds into one I-D. There is already overlap.

I believe I’d prefer to not adopt the netmod-netconf draft.  Its goal, as 
explained during the last netconf WG session that I presented it in, is to 
simply use it as the placeholder “TODO” list for the actual drafts covering the 
work.  However, there was strong pressure to have adopted WG items to cover the 
contents.  The state draft is another piece of that.

I believe this leaves authentication requirements as the only meaningful 
content.  A last draft covering that may perhaps be spun out or not as the WG 
desires.  After that, the netmod-netconf requirements draft can die.

 It also seems that
 a. goes quite a bit into solution space, so calling it a requirements
 document may be a bit of a stretch. (But that said, we need to start
 talking about solutions since we already have a document full of
 requirements.)

The actual requirements have been stalled since before the NYC interim: We need 
ephemeral state.  The implications of any given solution space are too 
important to draft requirements in the absence of some understanding of the 
likely solution.

I’m happy to rename the draft something that doesn’t contain the word 
“requirements” if you have a better suggestion.

— Jeff

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Re: [netmod] [Netconf] 2 week WG LC on draft-ietf-i2rs-pub-sub-requrements-02 (5/26 to 6/9)

2015-05-27 Thread Eric Voit (evoit)
We know of no IPR related to draft-ietf-i2rs-pub-sub-requirements.

Eric

From: Netconf [mailto:netconf-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hares
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 8:21 PM
To: i...@ietf.org
Cc: netc...@ietf.org; netmod@ietf.org
Subject: [Netconf] 2 week WG LC on draft-ietf-i2rs-pub-sub-requrements-02 (5/26 
to 6/9)

This begins a 2 week WG LC on draft-ietf-i2rs-pub-sub-requirements-02.

http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-i2rs-pub-sub-requirements/


I2RS Status: WG LC (5/26 to 6/9)

Eric, Alexander, Gonzalez - please state whether you know of any IPR related to 
the draft.

This document is a companion to three other documents for I2RS requirements 
which have WG calls:


1)  This begins a 2 week adoption call for 
draft-haas-i2rs-ephemeral-state-req:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-haas-i2rs-ephemeral-state-reqs/



  This document covers requests to the netmod and netconf Working

   Groups for functionality to support the ephemeral state requirements

   to implement the I2RS architecture.



Status: WG adoption call (5/26 to 6/9)



2)  
draft-haas-i2rs-netmod-netconf-requirements-01http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-haas-i2rs-netmod-netconf-requirements/

http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-haas-i2rs-netmod-netconf-requirements/



[This draft is an early set of requirements from which the ephemeral state and 
identity, secondary-identity and priority were pulled into 
draft-haas-i2rs-ephemeral-state-reqs.  The  notification-subscription were 
pulled into the draft-ietf-i2rs-pub-sub-requirments.   The traceability had 
been separated before draft-haas-i2rs-nemod-netconf-requirements was published. 
This draft remains the only source for mutual authentication requirements 
(section 2.2), transaction requirements, and the history of the discussion.   
This draft is being requested to be adopted as a general roadmap for the I2RS 
WG. In the future, the I2RS WG will accept more detailed specification on the 
mutual authentication or the transaction protocol.



I2RS Status: WG Adoption (5/26 to 6/9)




3)  
draft-ietf-i2rs-traceability-02http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-i2rs-traceability/
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-i2rs-traceability/
(5/26 to 6/9)

This thread is to discuss the draft-i2rs-pub-sub-requirements-02 and forwarding 
to the netmod/netconf and IESG as requirement for I2RS.

Sue Hares

PS - Yes - I know an IPR call on a requirements draft may seem silly, but it is 
required.




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Re: [netmod] scheduling interim meetings

2015-05-27 Thread Kent Watsen

There has only been one response so far.  Please respond by tomorrow if
interested in having time during an interim meeting.

Thanks,
Kent


On 5/22/15, 5:39 PM, Kent Watsen kwat...@juniper.net wrote:


Following up on 
https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/netmod/current/msg12549.html, and
also to help other drafts progress, we'd like to schedule 3-4 one-hour
virtual interim meetings before the meeting in Prague.

The first meeting is already set in terms of time and agenda (see below),
but the other slots remain open for signups.   To accommodate IETF's
2-week announcement requirement, please send your request for time before
next Thursday (5/28).

Tentative schedule:

Fri 6/12 11:30-12:30 EST: modeling operational state
(draft-openconfig-netmod-opstate)
Thu 6/18 10:00-11:00 EST: TBD

Thu 6/25 10:00-11:00 EST: TBD

Thu 7/02 10:00-11:00 EST: TBD


Please send your request for time to netmod-cha...@tools.ietf.org.

Thanks,
NETMOD co-chairs

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