Re: [netmod] Adoption call for draft-ma-opsawg-schedule-yang-04

2024-04-15 Thread Kent Watsen 
This draft is successfully adopted as a NETMOD WG chartered document.

Authors, please resubmit "draft-ma-opsawg-schedule-yang-04" as 
"draft-ieft-netmod-schedule-yang-00”.  Also note that the NETMOD WG prefers to 
have all WG documents hosted on its GitHub account, on which the following repo 
has been created for you: https://github.com/netmod-wg/schedule-yang.

Kent and Lou



> On Mar 26, 2024, at 11:49 AM, Kent Watsen  wrote:
> 
> NETMOD WG,
> 
> This email begins a 2-week adoption poll for: 
> 
>   A Common YANG Data Model for Scheduling
>   https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ma-opsawg-schedule-yang
> 
>   PS: This draft moved from OPSAWG to NETMOD
> 
> There is no known IPR on this draft:
> 
>   
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/netmod/mg1KP3m6bCSXh-3N-YKLvEb_udk/
> 
> Please voice your support or technical objections to adoption on the list by 
> the end of the day Apr 10 (any time zone).
> 
> Thank you,
> Kent (as co-chair)
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Re: [netmod] On prefixes again RE: IETF#119 I-D Status: draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis

2024-04-15 Thread mohamed . boucadair 
Hi all,

These proposed changes are now implemented in the public version.

Cheers,
Med

De : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET
Envoyé : mercredi 20 mars 2024 23:13
À : netmod@ietf.org
Objet : RE: [netmod] On prefixes again RE: IETF#119 I-D Status: 
draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis

Hi all,

After reviewing all the feedback so far, I modified the proposed change as 
follows:

NEW:
   Prefix values SHOULD be short but meaningful to the intended user.
   Prefix values SHOULD NOT conflict with known modules that have been
   previously published.

The full change can be seen here: 
https://author-tools.ietf.org/api/iddiff?url_1=https://boucadair.github.io/rfc8407bis/draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis.txt_2=https://boucadair.github.io/rfc8407bis/prefix-pattern/draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis.txt.

Cheers,
Med

De : netmod mailto:netmod-boun...@ietf.org>> De la 
part de Andy Bierman
Envoyé : dimanche 17 mars 2024 03:52
À : Christian Hopps mailto:cho...@chopps.org>>
Cc : Jürgen Schönwälder 
mailto:jschoenwaelder@constructor.university>>;
 netmod@ietf.org
Objet : Re: [netmod] On prefixes again RE: IETF#119 I-D Status: 
draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis



On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 2:41 AM Christian Hopps 
mailto:cho...@chopps.org>> wrote:


> On Mar 15, 2024, at 19:13, Per Andersson (perander) 
> mailto:peran...@cisco.com>> wrote:
>
> Christian Hopps mailto:cho...@chopps.org>> on Friday, 
> March 15, 2024 20:10:
>>> On Mar 15, 2024, at 13:26, 
>>> mohamed.boucad...@orange.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Re-,
>>> I’m not sure to agree with your last statement, Andy.
>>> The reality is that the OLD reco is inducing many cycles and waste of time 
>>> for no obvious technical reason:  see an example 
>>> herehttps://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/teas/eknpfAZIb9gX7GvUN1UoByCf5e4/
>>> Let’s save the authors time with a clear guidance:
>>>• Pick ietf- or iana- as a function of the module
>>
>> I disagree with this guidance.
>
> Can you explain your motivation?

Well first, what has been state earlier in the thread. But basically they add 
almost no value and gratuitously extend what is supposed to be a short 
identifier.

I am sorry for bringing this up.

I just grep'ed through about 1000 YANG modules to do a guestimate of the prefix 
usage,
looking for "meaningful" prefixes.

It is not that consistent across SDOs. IMO BBF is the best (by far).
The IETF has the most 2-letter prefixes.
DOTS and TE have structured prefixes (about 7 - 12 chars).
IMO these are good examples for new YANG modules.

The most important property is that the prefix is meaningful.


Thanks,
Chris.

Andy

>
>
> --
> Per


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[netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis-10.txt

2024-04-15 Thread internet-drafts 
Internet-Draft draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis-10.txt is now available. It is a
work item of the Network Modeling (NETMOD) WG of the IETF.

   Title:   Guidelines for Authors and Reviewers of Documents Containing YANG 
Data Models
   Authors: Andy Bierman
Mohamed Boucadair
Qin Wu
   Name:draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis-10.txt
   Pages:   88
   Dates:   2024-04-15

Abstract:

   This memo provides guidelines for authors and reviewers of
   specifications containing YANG modules, including IANA-maintained
   modules.  Recommendations and procedures are defined, which are
   intended to increase interoperability and usability of Network
   Configuration Protocol (NETCONF) and RESTCONF protocol
   implementations that utilize YANG modules.  This document obsoletes
   RFC 8407.

   Also, this document updates RFC 8126 by providing additional
   guidelines for writing the IANA considerations for RFCs that specify
   IANA-maintained modules.

The IETF datatracker status page for this Internet-Draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis/

There is also an HTML version available at:
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis-10.html

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis-10

Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at:
rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts


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