Re: [netmod] draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-12

2017-03-17 Thread t . petch
 Original Message -
From: "Clyde Wildes (cwildes)" 
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2017 5:58 PM

> Tom,
>
> Inline…
>
> On 3/16/17, 10:04 AM, "t.petch"  wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Clyde Wildes (cwildes)" 
> Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 6:11 PM
>
> > Tom,
> >
> > The next revision of the draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model includes
a
> change to the Yang tree diagram explanation to include the text
from
> RFC6087bis.
> >
> > RFC5426 is referenced in the model where "Transmission of Syslog
> Messages over UDP” occurs:
> >
> >   case udp {
> >  container udp {
> >description
> >  "This container describes the UDP transport
> >   options.";
> >reference
> >  "RFC 5426: Transmission of Syslog Messages
over
> UDP";
> >
> > This is a correct reference.
>
> Indeed but I don't think that [RFC5426]  is going to work as part
of
> leaf sig-number-resends
> while
>
>leaf structured-data {
> ...
>as per RFC5424
>
> is not the usual style.
>
> [clyde] I was urged to use the descriptions directly from RFC5848 – in
this case from section 6.1.2. Configuration Parameters for Signature
Blocks (page 25)
>
> sigNumberResends = number of times a Signature Block is resent.
>   (It is recommended to select a value of greater than "0" in
>   particular when the UDP transport [RFC5426] is used.)

Clyde

The semantics are fine but it is the [ syntax ] I think incorrect.

> [clyde] Please suggest a new name for the selector that you think
should be changed. I could not find a reference to this in my notes.
>
> On another tack, I thought that you agreed to change one of the
> identifiers in
>
>  grouping selector {
>description
>
>container selector {

I made  a note of a comment by AC (but which?) that selector selector
was confusing, which I agreed to, and I thought you agreed too, but I
discarded that thread and cannot now find it (it could be several
versions ago).

Anyhow, I find it confusing and would suggest 'filter' (which RFC5424
uses) not 'selector' .  Since the container appears in the diagram, I
would be inclined to use 'filter' there but it is removing the apparent
ambiguity e.g. of  a usage such as

uses selector {
refine " selector" {

that concerns me more.

Tom Petch

> Thanks,
>
> Clyde
>
>
> Tom Petch
>
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Clyde
> >
> > On 3/1/17, 4:20 AM, "netmod on behalf of t.petch"
>  wrote:
> >
> > The explanation of the YANG tree diagram is not that in
RFC6087; I
> think
> > that it should be (or else explain why not)
> >
> > I am confused by the variation in the references to RFC in
the
> modules.
> >
> > I see
> > RFC 5424
> > [RFC5426]
> > RFC5424
> >
> > I think the first correct
> >
> > Tom Petch
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Alexander Clemm" 
> > To: "Kent Watsen" ;
> > 
> > Cc: 
> > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 12:25 AM
> > Subject: Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for
> draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-11
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Re: [netmod] draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-12

2017-03-16 Thread Clyde Wildes (cwildes)
Tom,

Inline…

On 3/16/17, 10:04 AM, "t.petch"  wrote:

- Original Message -
From: "Clyde Wildes (cwildes)" 
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 6:11 PM

> Tom,
>
> The next revision of the draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model includes a
change to the Yang tree diagram explanation to include the text from
RFC6087bis.
>
> RFC5426 is referenced in the model where "Transmission of Syslog
Messages over UDP” occurs:
>
>   case udp {
>  container udp {
>description
>  "This container describes the UDP transport
>   options.";
>reference
>  "RFC 5426: Transmission of Syslog Messages over
UDP";
>
> This is a correct reference.

Indeed but I don't think that [RFC5426]  is going to work as part of
leaf sig-number-resends
while

   leaf structured-data {
...
   as per RFC5424

is not the usual style.

[clyde] I was urged to use the descriptions directly from RFC5848 – in this 
case from section 6.1.2. Configuration Parameters for Signature Blocks (page 25)

sigNumberResends = number of times a Signature Block is resent.
  (It is recommended to select a value of greater than "0" in
  particular when the UDP transport [RFC5426] is used.)

[clyde] Please suggest a new name for the selector that you think should be 
changed. I could not find a reference to this in my notes.

On another tack, I thought that you agreed to change one of the
identifiers in

 grouping selector {
   description

   container selector {

Thanks,

Clyde 

   
Tom Petch

> Thanks,
>
> Clyde
>
> On 3/1/17, 4:20 AM, "netmod on behalf of t.petch"
 wrote:
>
> The explanation of the YANG tree diagram is not that in RFC6087; I
think
> that it should be (or else explain why not)
>
> I am confused by the variation in the references to RFC in the
modules.
>
> I see
> RFC 5424
> [RFC5426]
> RFC5424
>
> I think the first correct
>
> Tom Petch
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Alexander Clemm" 
> To: "Kent Watsen" ;
> 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 12:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for
draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-11
>
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Re: [netmod] draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-12

2017-03-16 Thread t . petch
- Original Message -
From: "Clyde Wildes (cwildes)" 
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 6:11 PM

> Tom,
>
> The next revision of the draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model includes a
change to the Yang tree diagram explanation to include the text from
RFC6087bis.
>
> RFC5426 is referenced in the model where "Transmission of Syslog
Messages over UDP” occurs:
>
>   case udp {
>  container udp {
>description
>  "This container describes the UDP transport
>   options.";
>reference
>  "RFC 5426: Transmission of Syslog Messages over
UDP";
>
> This is a correct reference.

Indeed but I don't think that [RFC5426]  is going to work as part of
leaf sig-number-resends
while

   leaf structured-data {
...
   as per RFC5424

is not the usual style.


On another tack, I thought that you agreed to change one of the
identifiers in

 grouping selector {
   description

   container selector {


Tom Petch

> Thanks,
>
> Clyde
>
> On 3/1/17, 4:20 AM, "netmod on behalf of t.petch"
 wrote:
>
> The explanation of the YANG tree diagram is not that in RFC6087; I
think
> that it should be (or else explain why not)
>
> I am confused by the variation in the references to RFC in the
modules.
>
> I see
> RFC 5424
> [RFC5426]
> RFC5424
>
> I think the first correct
>
> Tom Petch
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Alexander Clemm" 
> To: "Kent Watsen" ;
> 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 12:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for
draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-11
>
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Re: [netmod] draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-12

2017-03-13 Thread Clyde Wildes (cwildes)
Tom,

The next revision of the draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model includes a change to 
the Yang tree diagram explanation to include the text from RFC6087bis.

RFC5426 is referenced in the model where "Transmission of Syslog Messages over 
UDP” occurs:

  case udp {
 container udp {
   description
 "This container describes the UDP transport
  options.";
   reference
 "RFC 5426: Transmission of Syslog Messages over UDP";

This is a correct reference.
  
Thanks,

Clyde

On 3/1/17, 4:20 AM, "netmod on behalf of t.petch"  wrote:

The explanation of the YANG tree diagram is not that in RFC6087; I think
that it should be (or else explain why not)

I am confused by the variation in the references to RFC in the modules.

I see
RFC 5424
[RFC5426]
RFC5424

I think the first correct

Tom Petch

- Original Message -
From: "Alexander Clemm" 
To: "Kent Watsen" ;

Cc: 
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 12:25 AM
Subject: Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-11

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[netmod] draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-12

2017-03-01 Thread t . petch
The explanation of the YANG tree diagram is not that in RFC6087; I think
that it should be (or else explain why not)

I am confused by the variation in the references to RFC in the modules.

I see
RFC 5424
[RFC5426]
RFC5424

I think the first correct

Tom Petch

- Original Message -
From: "Alexander Clemm" 
To: "Kent Watsen" ;

Cc: 
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 12:25 AM
Subject: Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-11

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