Re: cutpaste oddity

2010-04-06 Thread Dr Peter Young
On 5 Apr 2010  Steve Fryatt li...@stevefryatt.org.uk wrote:

[snip cut and paste not working from Impression to NetSurf]

 This isn't a NetSurf problem.

 The URL bar is just a standard Wimp writable icon (I think; I'm open to
 corrections), and so Ctrl-V into it is handled by whatever you use to handle
 the clipboard in writable icons on your system.

[snip]

 Peter, with an Iyonix, is probably using IcnClipBrd.  That /does/ play with
 Impression (or, it /should/ do -- if it doesn't, I would be surprised).

[snip]

It that's this Peter, then, yes, I do use IcnClipBrd on this Iyonix, 
but I've never used Impression, so I can't test whether the transfer 
would work. However, I did post about how to make a URL or e-mail 
address in OPro trigger a launch in NetSurf or e-mail app.

With best wishes,

Peter.

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Re: cutpaste oddity

2010-04-06 Thread Jim Nagel
Steve Fryatt  wrote on 5 Apr:

 This isn't a NetSurf problem.

 The URL bar is just a standard Wimp writable icon (I think; I'm open to
 corrections), and so Ctrl-V into it is handled by whatever you use to handle
 the clipboard in writable icons on your system.

 You still haven't given us an OS version (unless I've missed it; I'm
 catching up after a weekend down south), but I'll guess one of ROL's later
 offerings with writable icon clipboard support. In which case:
 congratulations, I think you've just found one of the features.

i'm using OS 4.39 on a StrongArm RiscPC.  Publisher 5.13 or 4.13.
*help clipboardholder shows it's version 0.15 (2004-05-03), which as 
far as i know is the standard one that comes with OS 4.39.
Netsurf r9799.


 Looking very cursorily at what messages get passed around when you do a
 Ctrl-C in Impression on a RO4.37 machine, it appears that the Clipboard
 Holder doesn't play with Impression.  Draw exhibits a similar 'issue',
 because it uses the Clipboard Holder; I'd guess Edit would, too (but I can't
 find a copy to try at present).

well, Clipboardholder plays with Impression to the extent that i can 
copy (Ctrl-C) from Impression and paste (Ctrl-V) into Edit, Datapower, 
OPro, Techwriter, MPro, and even Draw's Ctrl-E box for editing text, 
and, curiously, into a text-input box in Netsurf -- but NOT into 
Netsurf's URL bar.
   like Richard Porter, if i paste my bit into Edit, then re-copy 
(Ctrl-C) it from Edit, then i CAN paste (Ctrl-V) into the URL bar.

to repeat: the bit of text copied out of Impression with Ctrl-C 
carries filetype TEXT, not Impdoc.  (correct me if i'm wrong.  i come 
to this conclusion by pasting by bit into a blank Edit page, which 
takes on filetype Text.  if you paste something of another type into a 
blank Edit page and then save, Edit assigns it that filetype.)


i have now installed IcnClipBrd (version 0.15 by Thomas Leonard and 
Steve Fryatt, 2009) and now i CAN use Ctrl-V to get my bit of text 
from Impression into Netsurf's URL bar.


i'm still curious about the wherefores of this odd stumblingblock 
involving Impression, the built-in Clipboard Holder and the URL bar.
how can we examine the internal details of what's actually on the 
clipboard?


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Re: cutpaste oddity

2010-04-06 Thread Chris Newman
In article 8aafda0251.a...@ntlworld.com,
   Dr Alan Leighton alan.leight...@ntlworld.com wrote:


  I fear so for the time being. It is such a shame that we can no longer
  asses Google maps anymore. 8-(

  The old StreetMap site works.


  http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newdefaulte2.htm


 Fantastic you have made my day,

You're welcome. Pleased to be of service. Glad I'm some use to somebody.

-- 
Chris



Re: cutpaste oddity

2010-04-06 Thread Richard Porter
On 6 Apr 2010 Jim Nagel wrote:

 to repeat: the bit of text copied out of Impression with Ctrl-C
 carries filetype TEXT, not Impdoc.  (correct me if i'm wrong.  i come
 to this conclusion by pasting by bit into a blank Edit page, which
 takes on filetype Text.  if you paste something of another type into a
 blank Edit page and then save, Edit assigns it that filetype.)

Copy a url from a CSV file opened in Edit, paste into a new Edit 
window and it retains file type CSV, but copy straight from Schema 2 
and it's changed to Text. Copy a URL off a browser window and it's 
type Text, but view the source and copy the same URL and it's HTML. 
You can't paste HTML into the URL bar.

It appears that the clipboard retains the file type of a source file 
that was opened in Edit, but if you copy text straight from an 
application window and it's likely to be type Text. Only type Text can 
be pasted into a writable icon. I assume Oregano does its own 
processing of the URL bar.

What I said earlier was that if I changed the file type to ImpDoc in 
Edit, then I couldn't copy and paste it into Netsurf's URL bar.

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