Re: Controlling Javascript
In article fb57ad0d53.harr...@blueyonder.co.uk, Harriet Bazley li...@orange.wingsandbeaks.org.uk wrote: On 14 Jan 2013 as I do recall, Chris Newman wrote: Hi, Sojourning temporarily in Australia, I've not kept au fait with all the latest postings so could somebody please remind me how to enable/disable JavaScript. Iconbar menu: Choices-Content Disable JavaScript on/off. Thanks, Harriet. Found that now. I'm assuming that the -jsoff versions don't have this extra option icon at all, since the -json versions seem to have the Disable option set by default. (Probably wisest as it makes the application less stable.) Er! I must be a luddite. I don't understand the term -jsoff. However, my version had the option so I must have the non -jsoff version; whatever that means. Otherwise I'm not aware of any other mechanism for discerning which of the versions you have (other than a much larger !RunImage on disc!) -- Chris
Re: Controlling Javascript
In message 530de884c2cvj...@waitrose.com Chris Newman cvj...@waitrose.com wrote: In article fb57ad0d53.harr...@blueyonder.co.uk, Harriet Bazley li...@orange.wingsandbeaks.org.uk wrote: On 14 Jan 2013 as I do recall, Chris Newman wrote: Hi, Sojourning temporarily in Australia, I've not kept au fait with all the latest postings so could somebody please remind me how to enable/disable JavaScript. Iconbar menu: Choices-Content Disable JavaScript on/off. Thanks, Harriet. Found that now. I'm assuming that the -jsoff versions don't have this extra option icon at all, since the -json versions seem to have the Disable option set by default. (Probably wisest as it makes the application less stable.) Er! I must be a luddite. I don't understand the term -jsoff. However, my version had the option so I must have the non -jsoff version; whatever that means. Otherwise I'm not aware of any other mechanism for discerning which of the versions you have (other than a much larger !RunImage on disc!) -- Chris Think she means javasoft on and javasoft off. If a version of netsurf is pre java soft, there isnt a json or jsoff option in the menu cos its not relevant. -- BW Chris F. [Supporting British RISC OS computing.] Skype: c.n.l.f Twitter: MrChrisGB Blogsite: mr-chris-gb.blogspot.com ..and so, Milords, I'm cutting the price of my Worsley coal by half. Duke Bridgewater.
Re: Controlling Javascript
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 12:44:37PM +, Chris Newman wrote: Er! I must be a luddite. I don't understand the term -jsoff. However, my version had the option so I must have the non -jsoff version; whatever that means. There are two builds of each version; -json (JavaScript on) and -jsoff (JavaScript off). This does not reflect the default setting, it's imply that the -jsoff builds do not include any JavaScript functionality at all. If you're running a release version (did you say what version you were running, and where you got it from) then the whole of the above is moot: we've not made a release with JavaScript support, only test versions. B.
Re: Controlling Javascript
In article 444ae90d53.c.n@virgin.net, ChrisF c.n@virgin.net wrote: In message 530de884c2cvj...@waitrose.com Chris Newman cvj...@waitrose.com wrote: In article fb57ad0d53.harr...@blueyonder.co.uk, Harriet Bazley li...@orange.wingsandbeaks.org.uk wrote: On 14 Jan 2013 as I do recall, Chris Newman wrote: I'm assuming that the -jsoff versions don't have this extra option icon at all, since the -json versions seem to have the Disable option set by default. (Probably wisest as it makes the application less stable.) Er! I must be a luddite. I don't understand the term -jsoff. However, my version had the option so I must have the non -jsoff version; whatever that means. Otherwise I'm not aware of any other mechanism for discerning which of the versions you have (other than a much larger !RunImage on disc!) -- Chris Think she means javasoft on and javasoft off. If a version of netsurf is pre java soft, there isnt a json or jsoff option in the menu cos its not relevant. Ah! Obvious now.Ta. -- Chris
Re: Controlling Javascript
In article 20130114130007.gd15...@pepperfish.net, Rob Kendrick r...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 12:44:37PM +, Chris Newman wrote: Er! I must be a luddite. I don't understand the term -jsoff. However, my version had the option so I must have the non -jsoff version; whatever that means. There are two builds of each version; -json (JavaScript on) and -jsoff (JavaScript off). This does not reflect the default setting, it's imply that the -jsoff builds do not include any JavaScript functionality at all. If you're running a release version (did you say what version you were running, and where you got it from) then the whole of the above is moot: we've not made a release with JavaScript support, only test versions. I get the test versions using !Fetch_NS. I'm now up to 809. JavaScript option now duly found. Ta, -- Chris
Re: On line passport application
On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 11:32:14PM +, Tim Hill wrote: In article 56966.82.153.33.53.1358117198.squir...@email.orpheusnet.co.uk, Gerald Dodson gerald.dod...@argonet.co.uk wrote: In message 55612.82.153.33.53.1358077313.squir...@email.orpheusnet.co .uk Gerald Dodson gerald.dod...@argonet.co.uk wrote: Trouble with this on the UK gov site: goes to an error 404 screen. Has anyone had success with this? Hi Gerald Can you give the URL? I'll have a go. Chris. It is: https://passports.ips.gov.uk/epa1r1a/ctl04 On Suirrel it does not show distinction between lower case 'l' and number 1. The string epa is followed by number 1r1: the 'ct' by lower case 'l'. Perhaps you should use a better font. (What's Suirrel?) As usual, this seems to be a NetSurf+Javascript issue. On 'another platform' with a modern browser, the page linked to from passports.ips.gov.uk is https://passports.ips.gov.uk/epa1r1a/Rich/Formpage.aspx and not what Netsurf comes up with that you quote; it uses a javascript link. Even NetSurf's partial javascript is obviously not catered for. Actually the *correct* analysis is: https://passports.ips.gov.uk/ -302 redirect - https://passports.ips.gov.uk/epa1r1a/index.html All the links use old style javascript: URI scheme links (instead on onclick) calling __doPostBack(); unfortunately because out User-Agent reply is truthful and not a pack of lies. The site is not serving any of the javascript code to provide the actual implementation for __doPostBack which, unsurprisingly, results in bad page navigation. I will open the discussion with the other developers on our UA string again...trouble is I agree with the principle of not lieing so this is a difficult issue to think about. Whether you can get any further with NetSurf is not something I would bother to try. I long ago gave up using RISC OS for 'serious' surfing. Even a £28 Android tablet is more capable, unfortunately. This is not a helpful statement, especialy not on the NetSurf users mailing list, you are of course entitled to express your opinion...elsewhere. -- Tim Hill .. -- Regards Vincent http://www.kyllikki.org/
Re: On line passport application
In article 20130114133944.gv15...@kyllikki.org, Vincent Sanders vi...@netsurf-browser.org wrote: I will open the discussion with the other developers on our UA string again...trouble is I agree with the principle of not lieing so this is a difficult issue to think about. If it helps, anyone using Android browsers may get used to the idea of browsers' User Agent string lying in order for the page you want (i.e. not the mobile one) to be served. Some (e.g Dolphin) even have quite a few choices. [Snip] -- Tim Hill .. www.timil.com
Re: Controlling Javascript -- button suggestion
Chris Newman wrote on 14 Jan: I get the test versions using !Fetch_NS. I'm now up to 809. JavaScript option now duly found. A wee handy-feature suggestion (if it's not a lot of programming effort): A Javascript on/off button on the toolbar. Basically a handy shortcut to the iconbar Choices Content Disable Javascript tickbox. It would be good to have the on/off handier, because the user needs it on a per site basis rather than per application. (In days of yore, Fresco had such a button, for that reason.) The presence of such a button would also make it visually obvious to the user that a Javascript-enabled version of Netsurf is in use. At present the existence of Javascript is seen only several layers down in Choices. Using build 797 at the moment, on both RiscPC 4.39 and Iyonix 5.18. -- Jim Nagelwww.archivemag.co.uk
Re: Controlling Javascript -- button suggestion
In message 2f9bf20d53@nails.abbeypress.net Jim Nagel nets...@abbeypress.co.uk wrote: Chris Newman wrote on 14 Jan: I get the test versions using !Fetch_NS. I'm now up to 809. JavaScript option now duly found. A wee handy-feature suggestion (if it's not a lot of programming effort): A Javascript on/off button on the toolbar. . like Webster has. -- BW Chris F. [Supporting British RISC OS computing.] Skype: c.n.l.f Twitter: MrChrisGB Blogsite: mr-chris-gb.blogspot.com
Re: Controlling Javascript -- button suggestion
On 14 Jan 2013 John Rickman Iyonix rick...@argonet.co.uk wrote: Jim Nagel wrote Using build 797 at the moment, on both RiscPC 4.39 and Iyonix 5.18. did you mean #787? Why? I'm currently on #809, downloaded this morning by the invaluable Fetch_NS. With best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Controlling Javascript -- button suggestion
In article 89e6ff0d53.c.n@virgin.net, ChrisF c.n@virgin.net wrote: In message 2f9bf20d53@nails.abbeypress.net Jim Nagel nets...@abbeypress.co.uk wrote: Chris Newman wrote on 14 Jan: I get the test versions using !Fetch_NS. I'm now up to 809. JavaScript option now duly found. A wee handy-feature suggestion (if it's not a lot of programming effort): A Javascript on/off button on the toolbar. . like Webster has. . or a shortcut keypress which could be added to Buttonbar. -- Tim Hill .. www.timil.com
Re: On line passport application
On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 23:32:14 + (GMT), Tim Hill wrote: As usual, this seems to be a NetSurf+Javascript issue. On 'another platform' with a modern browser, the page linked to from passports.ips.gov.uk is https://passports.ips.gov.uk/epa1r1a/Rich/Formpage.aspx and not what Netsurf comes up with that you quote; it uses a javascript link. Even NetSurf's partial javascript is obviously not catered for. The solution is actually to DISABLE JavaScript for it to work. When enabled it tries to go to javascript:__doPostBack(\'ctl04\',\'\'), whatever that is supposed to do is clearly not supported/working in NetSurf currently. With JS disabled, NetSurf goes to the following page: https://passports.ips.gov.uk/epa1r1a/NoScriptRich/Formpage.aspx Which should work perfectly, being a non-JS version of the site. Chris Thanks for that. I must remember to try JS off in future. The Squirrel queried by Tim Hill is what you get with Orpheus. I have just been too lazy to set my Iyo up with Pluto yet. As far as I know there are no options for fonts with Squirrel- certainly no options in its choices. Gerald
Re: Controlling Javascript -- button suggestion
On 14 Jan 2013, Tim Hill t...@timil.com wrote: In article 89e6ff0d53.c.n@virgin.net, ChrisF c.n@virgin.net wrote: In message 2f9bf20d53@nails.abbeypress.net Jim Nagel nets...@abbeypress.co.uk wrote: [snip] A wee handy-feature suggestion (if it's not a lot of programming effort): A Javascript on/off button on the toolbar. . like Webster has. . or a shortcut keypress which could be added to Buttonbar. A menu option would be needed for ButtonBar, or Keystroke, to work. Tony
