JSON #817 uses high CPU when idle

2013-01-23 Thread Grahame Parish
I've just downloaded JSON #817 and given it a quick try around a few 
pages on the BBC News site - nothing strenuous.  I noticed that the 
CPU temperature (BeagleBoard xM RO5.19 16/05/12) was staying around 
its upper range even after I had closed the browser window so I used 
TaskUsage to see what might be causing this and found Netsurf using 
around 80-85% of the CPU even without any browser windows open, just 
idle on the icon bar.

I reverted to the last version I have to hand (#812) and went round 
the same pages and closed the window and the CPU usage by NetSurf 
dropped back to 0% as expected.  I understand that being a test 
version there may be reasons for this, but thought I'd mention it in 
case it wasn't expected behaviour.

-- 
Grahame Parish



Toolbar Customisation

2013-01-23 Thread Ken Ellis
I am trying to use Netsurf on a Raspberry Pi and I am having trouble 
understanding parts of the Netsurf User Guide. There, Under Toolbar 
Customisation, is this passage:
 'To move the icons around , enable toolbar edit mode by clicking menu over 
the toolbar and choosing "Edit toolbar".   This will open the toolbar 
editing panel.'

I don't understand what is meant by 'clicking menu over the toolbar'. All I can 
see above the toolbar is the usual menu list of File Edit View Navigate and 
Help. I have tried a right click on the toolbar, but nothing happens.


The other point I am having trouble with is when discussing Toolbar Icons the 
guide refers to 'Adjust Click' and 'Select Click'. I have not met these terms.

Ken Ellis

Re: Toolbar Customisation

2013-01-23 Thread Peter Young
On 21 Jan 2013  "Ken Ellis"  wrote:

> I am trying to use Netsurf on a Raspberry Pi and I am having trouble
> understanding parts of the Netsurf User Guide. There, Under Toolbar
> Customisation, is this passage:
>  'To move the icons around , enable toolbar edit mode by clicking
> menu over the toolbar and choosing "Edit toolbar".   This will
> open the toolbar editing panel.'

> I don't understand what is meant by 'clicking menu over the toolbar'.
> All I can see above the toolbar is the usual menu list of File Edit
> View Navigate and Help. I have tried a right click on the toolbar, but
> nothing happens.


> The other point I am having trouble with is when discussing Toolbar
> Icons the guide refers to 'Adjust Click' and 'Select Click'. I have
> not met these terms.

Select, Menu and Adjust are the three mouse buttons, from left to 
right. Standard RISC OS usage; perhaps you need a RISC OS manual!

With best wishes,

Peter.

-- 
Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family
Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
pnyo...@ormail.co.uk



Re: Toolbar Customisation

2013-01-23 Thread John Williams
In article <3F3D98959B3D4050A339C1550681C3A1@StudioPC>, Ken Ellis
 wrote:

> I don't understand what is meant by 'clicking menu over the toolbar'. All
> I can see above the toolbar is the usual menu list of File Edit View
> Navigate and Help. I have tried a right click on the toolbar, but nothing
> happens.

RISC OS uses a three button mouse.  The middle button, or often nowadays a
scroll wheel, is the 'Menu' button, and it is this mouse button to which
the above refers.

> The other point I am having trouble with is when discussing Toolbar Icons
> the guide refers to 'Adjust Click' and 'Select Click'. I have not met
> these terms.

Similarly, the left button is called 'Select' and the right button
'Adjust', and therefore the 'Click' referred to here is the clicking of the
right and left mouse buttons respectively.

Thus, from left to right, the three mouse buttons are: Select, Menu,
Adjust, and their names usually start with a capital to avoid the obvious
confusion and ambiguity which may be partly contributing to your problems
and those of other newcomers to the OS.

Hope this helps, 
 
John




Re: Toolbar Customisation

2013-01-23 Thread Brian Howlett
On 21 Jan, Ken Ellis wrote:

[snip]

> I don't understand what is meant by 'clicking menu over the toolbar'.
> All I can see above the toolbar is the usual menu list of File Edit
> View Navigate and Help. I have tried a right click on the toolbar, but
> nothing happens.


> The other point I am having trouble with is when discussing Toolbar
> Icons the guide refers to 'Adjust Click' and 'Select Click'. I have
> not met these terms.

These are RISC OS conventions, and refer to the three button mouse. 
Menu is the middle button, clicking it will open a context sensitive 
menu under the pointer. Select is the left mouse button, and Adjust is 
the right mouse button.

If you see "File" "Edit" "View" etc. then you probably aren't using 
RISC OS.
-- 
Brian Howlett
---
Every 4 seconds a woman has a baby. Our problem is to find this
woman and stop her.



Re: Toolbar Customisation

2013-01-23 Thread Jim Nagel
Ken Ellis wrote on 21 Jan:
> I am trying to use Netsurf on a Raspberry Pi ...

Essential point:  which OS are you using on your Pi?  Netsurf comes in 
versions for RiscOS, Linux and others.

Select, Menu and Adjust are the standard RiscOS names for the three 
buttons on a mouse.  (If mouse has a scrollwheel, that usually serves 
as the middle button, Menu.)


-- 
Jim Nagelwww.archivemag.co.uk
   See you at SW show?   www.riscos-SWshow.co.uk   February 23



Re: Toolbar Customisation

2013-01-23 Thread Peter Young
On 23 Jan 2013  Jim Nagel  wrote:

> Ken Ellis wrote on 21 Jan:
>> I am trying to use Netsurf on a Raspberry Pi ...

> Essential point:  which OS are you using on your Pi?  Netsurf comes in
> versions for RiscOS, Linux and others.

> Select, Menu and Adjust are the standard RiscOS names for the three
> buttons on a mouse.  (If mouse has a scrollwheel, that usually serves
> as the middle button, Menu.)

Good point, Jim lad, but if his help file mentions Select, Adjust and 
Menu, then that suggests that Ken is using RISC OS :-)

With best wishes,

Peter.

-- 
Peter Young (zfc Ta) and family
Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
pnyo...@ormail.co.uk



Re: Clipboard not working #824

2013-01-23 Thread John Rickman Iyonix
Martin Bazley  wrote

> The following bytes were arranged on 21 Jan 2013 by John Rickman Iyonix :


>> However, I have just downloaded the postings for Jan 2013 but cannot
>> read them. They are in an archive file - called 2013-January/txt/gz
>>
>> My copy of SparkFS wont unpack it and my copy of SparkPlug claims to
>> be SparkFS when it is run. Any ideas?

> Is this not sufficient?

> http://vlists.pepperfish.net/pipermail/netsurf-dev-netsurf-browser.org
> /2013-January/thread.html

Yes thanks Martin. I overlooked the obvious and went to the last item 
in the row - the archive.

-- 

John Rickman -  http://rickman.orpheusweb.co.uk/lynx



Re: Toolbar Customisation

2013-01-23 Thread Chris Young
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 14:51:34 GMT, Peter Young (no relation) wrote:

> > Ken Ellis wrote on 21 Jan:
> >> I am trying to use Netsurf on a Raspberry Pi ...
> 
> > Essential point:  which OS are you using on your Pi?  Netsurf comes in
> > versions for RiscOS, Linux and others.
> 
> Good point, Jim lad, but if his help file mentions Select, Adjust and 
> Menu, then that suggests that Ken is using RISC OS :-)

Not necessarily.  I believe the GTK version (which I'm pretty sure is
what is being used) does not have its own help file, but instead links
to the NetSurf website.  The documentation area of the NetSurf website
is, as I'm sure you are aware, targetted at the RISC OS version of
NetSurf.

Perhaps the correct information to provide to Ken, is that the toolbar
on the GTK version of NetSurf is not cutomisable.

Chris