Raspberry-Pi B+ problem

2014-12-10 Thread Richard Torrens (lists)
I have a  problem running NetSurf on a R-Pi B+

It used to work. Then, one day, stopped running. I made no change to the
R-Pi at the time.

However the B+ appears to be extremely unreliable: Disc error keeps
being reported. Usually falsely - but sometimes ther is a corruption, so I
thin something may have been corrupted. But what?

I have had the SD card replaced, and th eR-Pi itself. I have also almost
entirely eliminated the power supply as a problem.

When I run Netsurf, it goes into a continuous hour-glassing loop.
alt-break stops it.

I have Reporter running: this gives me no clues. It reports
*Filer_run  !Netsurf.

Then after the Alt-Break, it lists a whole host of output, stopping at
 [Appl/0B2039C4] RMEnsure Iconv 0.04 Error 16_10F iconv support requires
the Iconv module 0.04 or newer
 ** WimpError ** from Window Manager
  Error  : 050DEAD0
  Message: Press Stop to terminate Unknown.

I have replaced Netsurf with a completely new update. No change. I have
replaced Iconv and several other modules. No joy!

So0 has anyone any idea of what is happening, or what I should do next?
It's the Unknown that's looping.

-- 
Richard Torrens.
http://www.Torrens.org.uk for genealogy, natural history, wild food, walks, cats
and more!



RE: Raspberry-Pi B+ problem

2014-12-10 Thread Dave Higton
On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 12:41:02 + (GMT) Richard Torrens wrote:

[snip]
 I have had the SD card replaced, and th eR-Pi itself. I have also almost
 entirely eliminated the power supply as a problem.

What about the power supply cable?  Have you eliminated that too?

Your problems look very much as if they are caused by low power supply
voltage.  Can you measure what voltage appears within the RPi?

Dave


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Re: Raspberry-Pi B+ problem

2014-12-10 Thread Richard Torrens (lists)
In article 253e6ecc5d1.033bd...@davehigton.me.uk,
   Dave Higton d...@davehigton.me.uk wrote:
 On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 12:41:02 + (GMT) Richard Torrens wrote:

 [snip]
  I have had the SD card replaced, and th eR-Pi itself. I have also
  almost entirely eliminated the power supply as a problem.

 What about the power supply cable?  Have you eliminated that too?

 Your problems look very much as if they are caused by low power supply
 voltage.  Can you measure what voltage appears within the RPi?

 Dave

I measured 5.16v, stable, on the expansion pins of the B+. It showed no
variation as thePi was used.

I also fitted a 3,000µF capacitor actoss these pins.

The extra capacitor had no perceptible effect.

So it certainly doesn't look like supply problems. Unless the voltage
tolerance on the supply is incredibly tight.

Netsurf was working for quite some time with no sign of any trouble.

-- 
Richard Torrens.
http://www.Torrens.org.uk for genealogy, natural history, wild food, walks, cats
and more!



Re: Raspberry-Pi B+ problem

2014-12-10 Thread cj
In article 5473d22af9li...@torrens.org.uk,
   Richard Torrens (lists) li...@torrens.org.uk wrote:
 I have Reporter running: this gives me no clues. It reports
 *Filer_run  !Netsurf.

 Then after the Alt-Break, it lists a whole host of output, stopping at
  [Appl/0B2039C4] RMEnsure Iconv 0.04 Error 16_10F iconv support requires
 the Iconv module 0.04 or newer
  ** WimpError ** from Window Manager
   Error  : 050DEAD0
   Message: Press Stop to terminate Unknown.

Can it be assumed that the 'whole host' corresponds to the Netsurf
!Run file up to the point where it tries to rmensure Iconv?

The unknown may be the !Run obey file itself or Iconv trying to
initialise.

The implication is that you haven't changed Netsurf or any of its
support modules. From the error message you are running a fairly old
version. What actual versions are you running? What compatibility
mode are you running the Pi in?

-- 
Chris Johnson



Raspberry-Pi B+ problem

2014-12-10 Thread Richard Torrens (lists)
In article 5473e1e3dbch...@chris-johnson.org.uk,
   cj ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk wrote:
 In article 5473d22af9li...@torrens.org.uk,
Richard Torrens (lists) li...@torrens.org.uk wrote:
  I have Reporter running: this gives me no clues. It reports
  *Filer_run  !Netsurf.

  Then after the Alt-Break, it lists a whole host of output, stopping at
   [Appl/0B2039C4] RMEnsure Iconv 0.04 Error 16_10F iconv support requires
  the Iconv module 0.04 or newer
   ** WimpError ** from Window Manager
Error  : 050DEAD0
Message: Press Stop to terminate Unknown.

 Can it be assumed that the 'whole host' corresponds to the Netsurf
 !Run file up to the point where it tries to rmensure Iconv?

Yes, exactly as the !Run file.

 The unknown may be the !Run obey file itself or Iconv trying to
 initialise.

I thought Iconv might be corrupt, replaced it. No change.

 The implication is that you haven't changed Netsurf or any of its
 support modules. 

a working NetSurf stopped working for no apparent reason. So I tred a
completely new one. It now has RunImage dated December 4th - I think
that's 2425.

 From the error message you are running a fairly old
 version. What actual versions are you running? What compatibility
 mode are you running the Pi in?

I have just tried all 3 modes. It makes no difference.

I also tried executing (via a StrongED task window) the !Run file step by
step. This gives a Window Manager is currently in use after
/NetSurf$Dir.KickNS
and after
Run NetSurf$Dir.!RunImage %*0 2Wimp$ScrapDir.WWW.NetSurf.Log

First is thrown back to the Task Window, second is a Wimp error Box.

Netsurf doesn't run, but machine does not freeze.

-- 
Richard Torrens.
http://www.Torrens.org.uk for genealogy, natural history, wild food, walks, cats
and more!



Re: Raspberry-Pi B+ problem

2014-12-10 Thread Jeremy Nicoll - ml netsurf
Richard Torrens (lists) li...@torrens.org.uk wrote:

However the B+ appears to be extremely unreliable: Disc error keeps
being reported. Usually falsely - but sometimes ther is a corruption, so I
thin something may have been corrupted. But what?

Why do you think that 'Disc error' is beng reported falsely?  

I find it hard to believe that whatever detects such things would be making
spurious reports.  

-- 
Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own.