Re: problem with Mailman or is it just me?

[Richard Porter]

On 7 Nov 2017 Richard Porter  wrote:

> On 7 Nov 2017 Jim Nagel  wrote:

>> I wonder if a couple of others could try that link, please:  try
>> subscribing to the Netsurf list from a different valid address of your
>> own.  Do you get the same message as I did?  What ISP are YOU using?

> I'm getting "You must supply a valid email address" whether I supply a
> valid forwarder address, an alternative mailbox on my PlusNet account
> or a PlusNet alias for my normal address.

I have subscribed to one of my Mailman lists on a domain hosted by 
eukhost.com using a forwarded email address and there was no problem. 
I was asked to confirm my request and my request was forwarded to the 
moderator for approval. It won't be!

I think your problem must be caused by the spam filtering or DMARC 
policies of the service providers or hosts of the domains concerned - 
maybe list settings but I can't think of one that might have that 
effect.

I run a number of Mailman lists and I haven't run into this problem 
but I normally subscribe members myself. The lists aren't publicly 
visible. The only really annoying thing is caused by AOL's DMARC 
policies which means messahes have to be sent as attachments to 
wrapper messages or the From address has to be munged so you can only 
reply to the list unless you edit the address.

I think there are some issues with BT but not directly associated with 
the list. One member who uses a company domain name but appears to be 
connected via Virgin Media can't communicate with another member on 
btinternet. I suspect that has to do with reverse domain lookup as the 
company is based in Denmark.

Richard

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Re: Pane srolling and searching

[Chris Newman]

In article <5697c374a7li...@torrens.org>,
   Richard Torrens (lists)  wrote:
> http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/c/F207018
> is an odd page - it has 6 lists within panes.

> I was searching for "Anglian" within the window...


Was that "Anglian Windows," the well known double glazing firm???!!!

-- 
Chris

Re: Pane scrolling and searching

[Tim Hill]

In article <5697cbebe8li...@torrens.org>, Richard Torrens (lists)
 wrote:
> In article <5697c374a7li...@torrens.org>, Richard Torrens (lists)
> wrote:
> > http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/c/F207018

> Oops! URL should have been
> http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/a?_ref=10

> "Anglian" occurs within first and second panes.

> Sorry!

> > is an odd page - it has 6 lists within panes.

The technical bit: those 'panes' are DIVs which use CSS to have scroll
bars and whatnot. They're neither frames nor iframes and the content is
in the page delivered to the browser, not loaded from discreet files. as
(i)frames would be. Not all CSS is fully implemented in NetSurf and the
search doesn't seem to cope with scrolling through a DIV whose content
overflows.

> > I was searching for "Anglian" within the window and there were
> > several occurrences. But as these are within the panes it is
> > extremely difficult to know where they are!

Not ideal but in cases like this, press f8 and search the source. It's
laid out quite well (unlike the impenetrable garbage produced by e.g Wix)
so obvious which link relates to what. You can then cut and paste the end
of the relative link in place of the 'a?_ref=10'

After f8, using search in your editor one of the "anglia" hits is in this
line: [angle braces replaced with regular here]

(a href="/details/c/F201076")East Anglia Territorial, Reserve Forces and
Cadets Association(/a)

The URL in NetSurf
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/a?_ref=10
is easily changed to
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/c/F201076

HTH

T

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Tim Hill

timil.com : tjrh.eu : butterwick.eu : blue-bike.uk : youngtheatre.co.uk

Re: problem with Mailman or is it just me?

[Jeremy Nicoll - ml netsurf]

On 2017-11-08 11:23, Rob Kendrick wrote:


We've had reports of something similar for another mailing list we
(Pepperfish) host.  I'll take a look.  Could somebody divulge an 
address

that is incorrectly being identified as invalid, and which browser and
version they were using?


I'm pretty sure that I tried last night with

  jn.ml.nso...@wingsandbeaks.org.uk

but just tried it again (to be sure) and it worked!


I'm using Firefox 56.0.2 (64-bit) on Win 8.1.

--
Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own

Re: Pane scrolling and searching

[Richard Torrens (lists)]

In article <5697c374a7li...@torrens.org>,
   Richard Torrens (lists)  wrote:
> http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/c/F207018

Oops! URL should have been 
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/a?_ref=10

"Anglian" occurs within first and second panes.

Sorry!

> is an odd page - it has 6 lists within panes.

> I was searching for "Anglian" within the window and there were several
> occurrences. But as these are within the panes it is extremely difficult
> to know where they are!

> Also pane scrolling had a great tendency to misbehave. sometimes the
> mouse-wheel would scroll a pane, sometimes not. And sometimes the wrong
> pane would scroll!

> so I think it may be a useful test window.


> 3.8 (Dev CI #4246)
> ARMX6
> 5.23 (29-Jun-16)

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http://www.Torrens.org for genealogy, natural history, wild food, walks, cats
and more!

Re: Pane srolling and searching

[Tim Hill]

In article <5697c374a7li...@torrens.org>, Richard Torrens (lists)
 wrote:
> http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/c/F207018 is an odd
> page - it has 6 lists within panes.

Are you sure that's the correct URL? . . . 

> I was searching for "Anglian" within the window and there were several
> occurrences. But as these are within the panes it is extremely
> difficult to know where they are!

. . . because there is no instance of the word Anglian I can see.

-- 

Tim Hill

timil.com : tjrh.eu : butterwick.eu : blue-bike.uk : youngtheatre.co.uk

Pane srolling and searching

[Richard Torrens (lists)]

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/c/F207018
is an odd page - it has 6 lists within panes.

I was searching for "Anglian" within the window and there were several
occurrences. But as these are within the panes it is extremely difficult
to know where they are!

Also pane scrolling had a great tendency to misbehave. sometimes the
mouse-wheel would scroll a pane, sometimes not. And sometimes the wrong
pane would scroll!

so I think it may be a useful test window.


3.8 (Dev CI #4246)
ARMX6
5.23 (29-Jun-16)

-- 
Richard Torrens.
http://www.Torrens.org for genealogy, natural history, wild food, walks, cats
and more!

Re: problem with Mailman or is it just me?

[Rob Kendrick]

On Tue, Nov 07, 2017 at 11:50:18PM +, Richard Porter wrote:
> On 7 Nov 2017 Jim Nagel  wrote:
> 
> > I wonder if a couple of others could try that link, please:  try
> > subscribing to the Netsurf list from a different valid address of your
> > own.  Do you get the same message as I did?  What ISP are YOU using?
> 
> I'm getting "You must supply a valid email address" whether I supply a 
> valid forwarder address, an alternative mailbox on my PlusNet account 
> or a PlusNet alias for my normal address.

We've had reports of something similar for another mailing list we
(Pepperfish) host.  I'll take a look.  Could somebody divulge an address
that is incorrectly being identified as invalid, and which browser and
version they were using?

B.