Re: Please try the latest build
On 15 Aug 2018 Rob Kendrick wrote: > On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 09:19:02PM +0100, Chris Newman wrote: >> >> I got one of these but my mail was posted anyway. (see above). I'm confused >> (normal state). >> >> "You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has >> been automatically rejected. If you think that your messages are >> being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at >> netsurf-dev-ow...@netsurf-browser.org." > Look carefully at the To: field in the email you sent: you also send it > to our developer's list, which I assume you are not subscribed to. Yes, I got one of those too. Why ask for a reply to a closed group to a message to the general public? Best wishes, Peter (a.k.a grumpy old git of Cheltenham). -- Peter Young (zfc Au) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: new release and nested
On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 12:43:03PM -0500, Cág wrote: > Michael Drake wrote: > > > Our current layout engine doesn't support dynamic changes to the page. > > The layout engine needs a rewrite to handle this, which is a big job. > > Will this big job make the browser big too? And if so, should it be > planned then? Almost certainly bigger, but we won't know how much bigger until it's done. B.
Re: Please try the latest build
On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 09:19:02PM +0100, Chris Newman wrote: > > I got one of these but my mail was posted anyway. (see above). I'm confused > (normal state). > > "You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has > been automatically rejected. If you think that your messages are > being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at > netsurf-dev-ow...@netsurf-browser.org." Look carefully at the To: field in the email you sent: you also send it to our developer's list, which I assume you are not subscribed to. B.
Re: Please try the latest build
On 15 Aug, cvj...@waitrose.com wrote: > In article <54ae062857.ke...@talktalk.net>, >Kevin Wells wrote: > > In message <3c705f3f-e461-c7a7-3b70-54d63192a...@netsurf-browser.org> > > Michael Drake wrote: > > > > > >Hello, > > > > > >Could people please test build #4403 or later? (Or build from > > >latest master, if you compile from source.) > > > > > Seems to work OK with RISC OS on build 4407 > 4410 seems to be OK here on RiscPC Strong ARMv4 Adjust 4.39 with Unipod. I got one of these but my mail was posted anyway. (see above). I'm confused (normal state). "You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has been automatically rejected. If you think that your messages are being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at netsurf-dev-ow...@netsurf-browser.org." -- Chris
Re: Please try the latest build
In article <54ae062857.ke...@talktalk.net>, Kevin Wells wrote: > In message <3c705f3f-e461-c7a7-3b70-54d63192a...@netsurf-browser.org> > Michael Drake wrote: > > > >Hello, > > > >Could people please test build #4403 or later? (Or build from > >latest master, if you compile from source.) > > > Seems to work OK with RISC OS on build 4407 4410 seems to be OK here on RiscPC Strong ARMv4 Adjust 4.39 with Unipod. -- Chris
Re: new release and nested
Michael Drake wrote: > Our current layout engine doesn't support dynamic changes to the page. > The layout engine needs a rewrite to handle this, which is a big job. Will this big job make the browser big too? And if so, should it be planned then? -- caóc
Re: Please try the latest build
In message <3c705f3f-e461-c7a7-3b70-54d63192a...@netsurf-browser.org> Michael Drake wrote: > >Hello, > >Could people please test build #4403 or later? (Or build from >latest master, if you compile from source.) > > https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/ > >We are close to making a release, and would like to check that >nothing is broken. > >I am particularly interested to hear from anyone who can run >the following platforms: > >- Amiga >- Atari >- Haiku >- RISC OS >- Windows > >We have just changed the way that HTTP authentication works, >so I would be grateful if people could check that anything >that requires an HTTP basic auth login still works with the >latest build. > >If you don't know any sites which use HTTP authentication, >you can use: > > https://httpbin.org/basic-auth/foo/bar > > (Where "foo" is the username, and "bar" is the password, > and you can change the "correct" username and password > by changing the URL.) > >However, testing with real-world sites is better. > >Please try entering the incorrect credentials, the correct >credentials, and canceling the login, by closing the login >window. > Seems to work OK with RISC OS on build 4407 -- Kev Wells http://kevsoft.co.uk/ But it's " Saviour of 'is country " when the guns begin to shoot;
Re: Please try the latest build
In message <3c705f3f-e461-c7a7-3b70-54d63192a...@netsurf-browser.org> Michael Drake wrote: > > Hello, > > Could people please test build #4403 or later? (Or build from latest > master, if you compile from source.) > >https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/ > > We are close to making a release, and would like to check that nothing > is broken. [snip] All pass here with test site & ROOL. RISC OS 5.25, NS #4406.
Re: new release and nested
On 15/08/18 12:55, Jim Nagel wrote: > Here's an example: http://stjohns-glastonbury.org.uk > At first I groaned and presumed it's the usual Javascript impasse. But > looking at its HTML code, you can see that its navigation system uses > (unordered list) for the three menu items that Netsurf shows, but > WITHIN each of these list items is nested a second set that > Netsurf does not display. > > Any chance that the new Netsurf release could add this trick? I've no > idea how difficult it would be. (But at least it ain't Javascript!) Our current layout engine doesn't support dynamic changes to the page. The layout engine needs a rewrite to handle this, which is a big job. It won't happen for the release. Cheers, -- Michael Drake https://www.codethink.co.uk/
Re: Please try the latest build
On 15/08/18 12:08, Jim Nagel wrote: > Michael Drake wrote on 15 Aug: >> Please try entering the incorrect credentials, the correct >> credentials, and canceling the login, by closing the login window. > > Problem arises in testing this: After a successful login, Netsurf > will return to the site without asking again for credentials. > > How do we make it forget so that we can try again to see what happens > with bogus credentials? With https://httpbin.org/basic-auth/foo/bar you can adjust the "correct" credentials by altering the URL. For example: https://httpbin.org/basic-auth/elephant/potato Cheers, -- Michael Drake https://www.codethink.co.uk/
new release and nested
Michael Drake wrote on 15 Aug: > We are close to making a release, and would like to check that > nothing is broken. It seems to be a current fashion that many websites declutter their menu by grouping sub-options under a minimal number of main choices. Some sites do this only for small screens, and give a fuller list on large screens. Alas, Netsurf seems to get the small-screen version. Here's an example: http://stjohns-glastonbury.org.uk At first I groaned and presumed it's the usual Javascript impasse. But looking at its HTML code, you can see that its navigation system uses (unordered list) for the three menu items that Netsurf shows, but WITHIN each of these list items is nested a second set that Netsurf does not display. Any chance that the new Netsurf release could add this trick? I've no idea how difficult it would be. (But at least it ain't Javascript!) I upgraded to #4405 just now, in hope, but nope. (I'm the volunteer coordinator for this church website, so I have to deal with it often. As a workaround, I copied the HTML for the navigation section into StrongEd and inserted linebreaks to make it easier to read. Each of the menu items has a straightforward URL to the relevant page within the site. So I simply saved my tweaked version as a new local page called "menu-redux/html", and now I can click in that page to be taken to where I want within the site.) -- Jim Nagelwww.archivemag.co.uk
Re: Missing images
Richard Porter wrote on 9 Aug: > I've got a strange problem on one of my sites. > On http://www.mmpa.org.uk/ all of the gif images are missing, including > the yellow navigation buttons at the top. Yellow buttons appear here OK on newly installed Netsurf #4405. (Using ArmX6 with Ro5.25) -- Jim Nagelwww.archivemag.co.uk
Re: Please try the latest build
On 15 Aug, bbai...@argonet.co.uk wrote: > In article , >Michael Drake wrote: > > On 15/08/18 09:05, Brian wrote: > > > In article <3c705f3f-e461-c7a7-3b70-54d63192a...@netsurf-browser.org>, > > >Michael Drake wrote: > > >>https://httpbin.org/basic-auth/foo/bar > > > > > >>(Where "foo" is the username, and "bar" is the password, > > >>and you can change the "correct" username and password > > >>by changing the URL.) > > > > > > Seems not to work. Serious error - crashes NetSurf. > Oh, and 'Unable to fetch document' > > Which platform are you testing on? > Win 7, VRPC, RISC OS 4.02, NetSurf #4402 Ah, was your message ahead of build updates, perhaps? I updated within seconds of the message! Anyway, now running Win 7, VRPC, RISC OS 4.02, NetSurf #4405 - now appears to be functioning correctly. [snip] Best wishes Brian
Re: Please try the latest build
Michael Drake wrote on 15 Aug: > Please try entering the incorrect credentials, the correct > credentials, and canceling the login, by closing the login window. Problem arises in testing this: After a successful login, Netsurf will return to the site without asking again for credentials. How do we make it forget so that we can try again to see what happens with bogus credentials? (Of course no problem if I had more carefully read Michael's instruction that said to try with incorrect credentials *first*.) -- Jim Nagelwww.archivemag.co.uk
Re: Please try the latest build
Michael Drake wrote on 15 Aug: > Please try entering the incorrect credentials, the correct > credentials, and canceling the login, by closing the login > window. Using newly installed #4405 here on ArmX6 with Ro5.25. All the above tests (in that order!) work OK. Have always thought, though, that it'd be nicer if Netsurf gave some message when a login is unsuccessful, rather than just repeat the identical dialogue, which the user can feel is an infinite loop. Some months ago I reported a site that asked for ONLY a password, WITHOUT a username. Netsurf failed but other browsers coped, giving a reduced dialogue box. (That site, for a wedding now past, now gives only an "under construction" page, but other examples might exist at www.squarespace.com where it was hosted.) Dunno if Netsurf's revised code would now cope with this unusual situation. -- Jim Nagelwww.archivemag.co.uk
Re: Please try the latest build
Hi Brian, On 15/08/18 11:57, Brian wrote: > In article , >Michael Drake wrote: >> Which platform are you testing on? > > Win 7, VRPC, RISC OS 4.02, NetSurf #4402 Just spotted this! It needs to be #4403 or later. Please could you try with #4403 or the latest one (currently #4405). Cheers, -- Michael Drake https://www.codethink.co.uk/
Re: Please try the latest build
Hi Brian, On 15/08/18 11:57, Brian wrote: > In article , >Michael Drake wrote: >> Can you send me the log file for the crash. > > I've saved the log file but forgotten where to send it Please e-mail it to me direct. Cheers, -- Michael Drake
Re: Please try the latest build
In article , Michael Drake wrote: > On 15/08/18 09:05, Brian wrote: > > In article <3c705f3f-e461-c7a7-3b70-54d63192a...@netsurf-browser.org>, > >Michael Drake wrote: > >>https://httpbin.org/basic-auth/foo/bar > > > >>(Where "foo" is the username, and "bar" is the password, > >>and you can change the "correct" username and password > >>by changing the URL.) > > > > Seems not to work. Serious error - crashes NetSurf. Oh, and 'Unable to fetch document' > Which platform are you testing on? Win 7, VRPC, RISC OS 4.02, NetSurf #4402 > What exactly did you do? As instructed. > Can you send me the log file for the crash. I've saved the log file but forgotten where to send it Best wishes Brian
Re: Please try the latest build
On 15/08/18 09:05, Brian wrote: > In article <3c705f3f-e461-c7a7-3b70-54d63192a...@netsurf-browser.org>, >Michael Drake wrote: >>https://httpbin.org/basic-auth/foo/bar > >>(Where "foo" is the username, and "bar" is the password, >>and you can change the "correct" username and password >>by changing the URL.) > > Seems not to work. Serious error - crashes NetSurf. Which platform are you testing on? What exactly did you do? Can you send me the log file for the crash. Cheers, -- Michael Drake
Re: Please try the latest build
In article <3c705f3f-e461-c7a7-3b70-54d63192a...@netsurf-browser.org>, Michael Drake wrote: > Hello, > Could people please test build #4403 or later? (Or build from > latest master, if you compile from source.) >https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/ > We are close to making a release, and would like to check that > nothing is broken. > I am particularly interested to hear from anyone who can run > the following platforms: > - Amiga > - Atari > - Haiku > - RISC OS > - Windows > We have just changed the way that HTTP authentication works, > so I would be grateful if people could check that anything > that requires an HTTP basic auth login still works with the > latest build. > If you don't know any sites which use HTTP authentication, > you can use: >https://httpbin.org/basic-auth/foo/bar >(Where "foo" is the username, and "bar" is the password, >and you can change the "correct" username and password >by changing the URL.) Seems not to work. Serious error - crashes NetSurf. [snip] Brian
Re: Please try the latest build
On 15 Aug 2018 Michael Drake wrote: > Hello, > Could people please test build #4403 or later? (Or build from > latest master, if you compile from source.) >https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/ > We are close to making a release, and would like to check that > nothing is broken. > I am particularly interested to hear from anyone who can run > the following platforms: > - Amiga > - Atari > - Haiku > - RISC OS > - Windows I've downloaded the RISC OS version of #4003, and all looks well so far. > We have just changed the way that HTTP authentication works, > so I would be grateful if people could check that anything > that requires an HTTP basic auth login still works with the > latest build. > If you don't know any sites which use HTTP authentication, > you can use: >https://httpbin.org/basic-auth/foo/bar >(Where "foo" is the username, and "bar" is the password, >and you can change the "correct" username and password >by changing the URL.) > However, testing with real-world sites is better. > Please try entering the incorrect credentials, the correct > credentials, and canceling the login, by closing the login > window. I can log into the foo bar site, and also RComp's ARMX6 password-protected page, so that looks good. Many thanks to the developers, Best wishes, Peter. -- Peter Young (zfc Au) and family Prestbury, Cheltenham, Glos. GL52, England http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk pnyo...@ormail.co.uk
Re: Please try the latest build
On 15 Aug in article <3c705f3f-e461-c7a7-3b70-54d63192a...@netsurf-browser.org>, Michael Drake wrote: > Could people please test build #4403 or later? [Snip] > We have just changed the way that HTTP authentication works, [Snip] > Please try entering the incorrect credentials, the correct > credentials, and canceling the login, All seems to work here (on RISC OS) as expected on both the test site and my own site. > by closing the login window. One minor point is that there is no 'Close' icon on the login window, just a Cancel button. Martin
Please try the latest build
Hello, Could people please test build #4403 or later? (Or build from latest master, if you compile from source.) https://ci.netsurf-browser.org/builds/ We are close to making a release, and would like to check that nothing is broken. I am particularly interested to hear from anyone who can run the following platforms: - Amiga - Atari - Haiku - RISC OS - Windows We have just changed the way that HTTP authentication works, so I would be grateful if people could check that anything that requires an HTTP basic auth login still works with the latest build. If you don't know any sites which use HTTP authentication, you can use: https://httpbin.org/basic-auth/foo/bar (Where "foo" is the username, and "bar" is the password, and you can change the "correct" username and password by changing the URL.) However, testing with real-world sites is better. Please try entering the incorrect credentials, the correct credentials, and canceling the login, by closing the login window. Note: the Windows build doesn't yet support HTTP auth, so for that platform, I'm just looking for a general indication of whether the browser functions. Cheers, -- Michael Drake http://www.netsurf-browser.org/