Re: Fetch_NS
In article <6143527659.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>, David Higton wrote: > In message <59764abf16d...@triffid.co.uk> > Dave wrote: > > RO 6.20 > > > > *show inetdbase* > > > > InetDBase$Path : Choices:Internet.Files. > > InetDBase$Write : .Internet.Files > Really? That second path there is invalid. > David Ooeer! I've just rechecked and that's what is presented after a *show inetdbase*. Obviously I have no idea what it all means... RISC OS 6.20 hasn't been touched/updated since December 2009. Dave -- Dave Triffid ___ netsurf-users mailing list -- netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org To unsubscribe send an email to netsurf-users-le...@netsurf-browser.org
Re: Fetch_NS
In message <59764abf16d...@triffid.co.uk> Dave wrote: > RO 6.20 > > *show inetdbase* > > InetDBase$Path : Choices:Internet.Files. > InetDBase$Write : .Internet.Files Really? That second path there is invalid. David ___ netsurf-users mailing list -- netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org To unsubscribe send an email to netsurf-users-le...@netsurf-browser.org
Re: Fetch_NS
In message <59764abf16d...@triffid.co.uk> Dave wrote: > As for renaming CertData in other places... > Aside from Fetch_NS I have no idea what other apps might use CertData. Anything that uses AcornSSL, for a start. This includes such apps as Antispam, Newshound and FTPc when used with secure hosts. NetSurf may well start to use InetDbase:CertData by default soon too. David ___ netsurf-users mailing list -- netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org To unsubscribe send an email to netsurf-users-le...@netsurf-browser.org
Re: Fetch_NS
In article <30d8257659.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>, David Higton wrote: > In message <59760e56dcd...@triffid.co.uk> > Dave wrote: [Snip] > > > > Me being interested to know... > > > > Just tested on this RISC OS 6.20 the CertData really needs to be in > > ...HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Choices.Default.Internet.Files for Fetch_Netsurf > > to work. > > > > Here on RISC OS 6.20 the CertData in > > ...HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!Internet.Files.CertData when renamed > > out, has no effect on the Fetch_Netsurf running. > > > > That said, I'm renaming it back in case something else RISC OS looks > > for it there. > > > > Messy! > > > > Had the same Fetch_Netsurf line 6 problem in RPCEmu RISC OS 5.28 > > install, updated the CertData and it again ran okay. On this 5.28 RISC > > OS CertData is only in !Boot.Resources.!Internet.Files > The key thing is to know whether everything is looking for > InetDbase:CertData > What does: > *show inetdbase* > show on the various systems? > What happens if you rename the CertData file in anything other than where > InetDbase$Path shows? Does anything stop working? (NetSurf itself won't > stop, because it uses its own copy of the certs - currently best part of > 2 years out of date!) > We don't want multiple copies of the file splattered around anyone's > system. It doesn't help. > David RO 6.20 *show inetdbase* InetDBase$Path : Choices:Internet.Files. InetDBase$Write : .Internet.Files RISC OS 4.39 *show inetdbase* InetDBase$Path : Choices:Internet.Files. InetDBase$Write : HostFS::HardDisc4.$.!boot.Choices.Users.Single.Internet.Files RPCEmu RO 5.28 -- *show inetdbase* InetDBase$Path : HostFS::HostFS.$.!Boot.Resources.!Internet.files. As for renaming CertData in other places... Aside from Fetch_NS I have no idea what other apps might use CertData. Dave -- Dave Triffid ___ netsurf-users mailing list -- netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org To unsubscribe send an email to netsurf-users-le...@netsurf-browser.org
Re: Fetch_NS
In message <59760173fad...@triffid.co.uk> Dave wrote: > Thanks for the advice David. :-) > > Mine is/was: > > Certificate data from Mozilla as of: Wed Jan 1 04:12:10 2020 GMT > > I downloaded and tried your updater, but unfortunately it errored out. > > !Reporter" > -- > [WindowManager/] %Obey HostFS::HardDisc4.$.Apps.!UpdCaCert.!Run > No writeable memory at this address > ** Error ** > Error : &0411 > > Maybe something to do with... I'm on RISC OS 6.20 Most curious. It doesn't write to memory directly at all. It reads from memory written to by OS_ReadVarVal, which is a standard way to read a system variable. So I dunno. I don't want to support the long-obsolete versions of RISC OS, and in any case I'm in no position to do so. Sorry. If anyone else would like to take a look, the very simple BASIC app is at https://davehigton.me.uk and is called UpdCaCert David ___ netsurf-users mailing list -- netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org To unsubscribe send an email to netsurf-users-le...@netsurf-browser.org
Re: Fetch_NS
In message <59760e56dcd...@triffid.co.uk> Dave wrote: >In article <59760173fad...@triffid.co.uk>, > Dave wrote: >> In article , >>David Higton wrote: >> > >[Snip] > >> > OK, open the InetDbase:CertData file and tell us the date you'll see >> > near the top (it's the 4th line in mine). > >> > Mine says: > >> > ## Certificate data from Mozilla as of: Thu Sep 30 03:12:05 2021 GMT > >> > David > >> Thanks for the advice David. :-) > >> Mine is/was: > >> Certificate data from Mozilla as of: Wed Jan 1 04:12:10 2020 GMT > >> I downloaded and tried your updater, but unfortunately it errored out. > >> !Reporter" >> -- >> [WindowManager/] %Obey HostFS::HardDisc4.$.Apps.!UpdCaCert.!Run >> No writeable memory at this address >> ** Error ** >> Error : &0411 > >> Maybe something to do with... I'm on RISC OS 6.20 > >> Thereafter... >> Downloaded the cacert.pem and did as you noted in your follow up posting. > >> So I now have the new CertData in place... > >> Certificate data from Mozilla as of: Thu Sep 30 03:12:05 2021 GMT. > >> Rebooted RISC OS... > >> Tried to run "Fetch_NS and still the same error message... >> ** WimpError ** from unknown task >> Error : & >> Message: file LATEST missing or empty at line 6 > >> What next he cried? > >> Had a lightbulb... :-/ > >> RISC OS 6.20 has an !Internet.Files.CertData in >> ...HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!Internet.files.CertData > >> But it also has a >> ...HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Choices.Default.Internet.Files.CertData > >> I replaced that one as well, thereafter, Fetch_NS downloaded the 5313/zip >> okay. > >> Again. >> Thanks for the advice, appreciated. > >> Dave > >> Apologies for vanishing mid chat last night. (Medical reasons). > >> D. > > Me being interested to know... > > Just tested on this RISC OS 6.20 the CertData really needs to be in > ...HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Choices.Default.Internet.Files for Fetch_Netsurf to > work. > > Here on RISC OS 6.20 the CertData in > ...HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!Internet.Files.CertData when renamed out, > has no effect on the Fetch_Netsurf running. > > That said, I'm renaming it back in case something else RISC OS looks for > it there. > > Messy! > > Had the same Fetch_Netsurf line 6 problem in RPCEmu RISC OS 5.28 install, > updated the CertData and it again ran okay. > On this 5.28 RISC OS CertData is only in !Boot.Resources.!Internet.Files The key thing is to know whether everything is looking for InetDbase:CertData What does: *show inetdbase* show on the various systems? What happens if you rename the CertData file in anything other than where InetDbase$Path shows? Does anything stop working? (NetSurf itself won't stop, because it uses its own copy of the certs - currently best part of 2 years out of date!) We don't want multiple copies of the file splattered around anyone's system. It doesn't help. David ___ netsurf-users mailing list -- netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org To unsubscribe send an email to netsurf-users-le...@netsurf-browser.org
Fetch_NS
In article <59760173fad...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave wrote: > In article , >David Higton wrote: > [Snip] > > OK, open the InetDbase:CertData file and tell us the date you'll see > > near the top (it's the 4th line in mine). > > Mine says: > > ## Certificate data from Mozilla as of: Thu Sep 30 03:12:05 2021 GMT > > David > Thanks for the advice David. :-) > Mine is/was: > Certificate data from Mozilla as of: Wed Jan 1 04:12:10 2020 GMT > I downloaded and tried your updater, but unfortunately it errored out. > !Reporter" > -- > [WindowManager/] %Obey HostFS::HardDisc4.$.Apps.!UpdCaCert.!Run > No writeable memory at this address > ** Error ** > Error : &0411 > Maybe something to do with... I'm on RISC OS 6.20 > Thereafter... > Downloaded the cacert.pem and did as you noted in your follow up posting. > So I now have the new CertData in place... > Certificate data from Mozilla as of: Thu Sep 30 03:12:05 2021 GMT. > Rebooted RISC OS... > Tried to run "Fetch_NS and still the same error message... > ** WimpError ** from unknown task > Error : & > Message: file LATEST missing or empty at line 6 > What next he cried? > Had a lightbulb... :-/ > RISC OS 6.20 has an !Internet.Files.CertData in > ...HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!Internet.files.CertData > But it also has a > ...HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Choices.Default.Internet.Files.CertData > I replaced that one as well, thereafter, Fetch_NS downloaded the 5313/zip > okay. > Again. > Thanks for the advice, appreciated. > Dave > Apologies for vanishing mid chat last night. (Medical reasons). > D. Me being interested to know... Just tested on this RISC OS 6.20 the CertData really needs to be in ...HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Choices.Default.Internet.Files for Fetch_Netsurf to work. Here on RISC OS 6.20 the CertData in ...HardDisc4.$.!Boot.Resources.!Internet.Files.CertData when renamed out, has no effect on the Fetch_Netsurf running. That said, I'm renaming it back in case something else RISC OS looks for it there. Messy! Had the same Fetch_Netsurf line 6 problem in RPCEmu RISC OS 5.28 install, updated the CertData and it again ran okay. On this 5.28 RISC OS CertData is only in !Boot.Resources.!Internet.Files Dave -- Dave Triffid ___ netsurf-users mailing list -- netsurf-users@netsurf-browser.org To unsubscribe send an email to netsurf-users-le...@netsurf-browser.org
