Re: NetSurf web sites
In article <921e311a57.davem...@my.inbox.com>, David Higton wrote: > Also I notice that the !Fetch_NS app no longer works, complaining of > an incorrectly formatted filename at line 24. Probably not your > problem, but I struggle to see how it works and thus how the error > occurs. Help would be appreciated! See thread 'Fetch_NS' on c.s.a.apps. Evan.
Problem with font cache, NetSurf and Sargasso
I don't often use James Bursa's Sargasso, so have only just discovered this issue which seems to affect versions of NetSurf sometime after r7402 (06 May 2009 00:15). Sargasso and Netsurf appear to produce incompatible RUfl_cache files. No matter which app first produces the cache file, when the other one is run it creates a new cache file, which can be tedious and time consuming. I don't think it's a problem with a particular font, since it happens even when I have removed all fonts apart from ROM fonts and NetSurf's NSSymbol. NetSurf 2.1 exhibits this behaviour whilst version 2.0 does not. Development version r7431 (07 May 2009 18:45) is affected but r7402 (06 May 2009 00:15) isn't. Has anyone else experienced this? !!BEWARE!! Using Alt-Break to try to interrupt font scanning when starting Sargasso has twice caused a broken SysLog.Logs directory here. I'm using RISC OS 5.14. Evan.
Re: New Font Handling Seems to Ignore Messages1 Files
In article <9237bc5850...@hobbes.bass-software.com>, John Tytgat wrote: > In message <5058ba83f3e...@ejclark.force9.co.uk> Evan Clark >wrote: > > Also, what is the best way to remove it. Manual removal seems to > > upset RUfl and NetSurf fails to load. > Quit NetSurf (this makes that its Resources.Fonts directory gets > removed from Font$Path), delete (or remove in case you still want a > copy) all objects there except the NSSymbol directory. Restart NetSurf. That's what I was doing. > If RUfl still complains, you might want to try to quit NetSurf, remove > .RUfl_cache file. This will get automatically created > the next time RUfl gets used (e.g. NetSurf restart). That's the bit I failed to spot. Mission accomplished. Many thanks for your help. Evan.
New Font Handling Seems to Ignore Messages1 Files
In article <1313b65850...@hobbes.bass-software.com>, John Tytgat wrote: > What is the contents of !NetSurf.Resources.Fonts ? You should only have > NSSymbol font directory. My guess is that you have a Messages file > there (probably generated while you had NetSurf running). Spot on! There is a copy of Vera there and entries for it in the Messages1 file. I have no recollection of putting it there, though that's far from a guarantee that I didn't. I wonder if there's another way it could have been put there. Also, what is the best way to remove it. Manual removal seems to upset RUfl and NetSurf fails to load. Evan.
Re: New Font Handling Seems to Ignore Messages1 Files
In article <1241853357.18440.149.ca...@duiker>, John-Mark Bell wrote: > On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 23:41 +0100, Evan Clark wrote: > > Recent builds since the improved support for the non-Unicode font > > manager seem to be upsetting the generation of font menus. > > > > Font menus generated within any other application while NetSurf is > > running seem to ignore any default weights set using the * character > > in Message1 files. After quitting NetSurf, font menus are generated > > as expected. > That's odd, as NetSurf's font handling on RISC OS 5 has not been changed > at all. Additionally, NetSurf does nothing that should affect other > applications -- they would interact directly with the Font Manager. It did seem strange to me, even with only a superficial understanding of the workings of the font manager. To be absolutely clear about what is happening, here are screen shots of the font submenu for Vera, created from OvationPro, with and without NetSurf running: http://www.ejclark.force9.co.uk/temp/NetSurf_font_menus/font_submenu_without_NetSurf.jpg> http://www.ejclark.force9.co.uk/temp/NetSurf_font_menus/font_submenu_with_NetSurf.jpg> Evan.
New Font Handling Seems to Ignore Messages1 Files
Recent builds since the improved support for the non-Unicode font manager seem to be upsetting the generation of font menus. Font menus generated within any other application while NetSurf is running seem to ignore any default weights set using the * character in Message1 files. After quitting NetSurf, font menus are generated as expected. I'm using RISC OS 5.14 (22 Apr 2009), Font Manager 3.61 (06 Jun 2008). Evan.
Re: RiscPkg not working again?
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Geoffrey Baxendale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi All, > Not a major problem, but RiskPkg doesn't want to recognise that my copy > of Netsurf is out of date. Have I done something or is it at t'other > end? Seems to be a similar problem to the one about 6 weeks ago, so not just you. Evan.
Re: Difficult site
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Pitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Dave Higton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Could one or two of you please try > > > >http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Calls.aspx/0/m > > > >I've tried this with yesterday's and today's versions of NetSurf, > >and it loads about 183 KB (in 3.6 seconds here), then goes into a > >loop which, if not infinite, is at least several minutes long and > >during which the timer isn't incrementing. > Just to confirm the site stalls NetSurf 2.0 (Dev) (09 Mar 2008 01:45) > r3902. Similarly with NetSurf 2.0 (Dev) (07 Mar 2008 19:00) r3897. Fetching the page with curl, it's absurdly large, around 900kB. Chopping bits off the end to progressively reduce its size, NetSurf eventually displays it when down to about 250kB. (Oregano2 succeeds before that.) Evan.
Re: Netsurf and RiscPkg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rob Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 00:06 +0000, Evan Clark wrote: > > Something seems to have gone awry with the package control file. > This issue has now been fixed. A new package file should appear > momentarily. Excellent! Many thanks. Evan.
Re: NetSurf RiscPkg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rob Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 11:45 +0000, Evan Clark wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm not sure if this is within the remit of webmaster, but if not, > > perhaps you'll pass it on. > > > > The NetSurf RiscPkg seems to have stopped working. This has also been > > reported on the users mailing list. > This is a known issue. The machine that builds the package recently had > to be reinstalled, and it is missing some software needed to produce the > package. > It will be fixed when the administrator of that machine has the time. Thanks for the speedy response, Rob. I'll look forward to regular RiscPkg downloads again when it's fixed. Evan.
Re: Netsurf and RiscPkg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Geoffrey Baxendale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > Is it me, or has something gone wrong with RiskPkg or Netsurf's package > info? When I try to use it to update Netsurf, "Update" produces the > usual green bar, but then "Upgrade" doesn't flag up Netsurf to be > updated and "Commit" doesn't download anything. > It has always worked before, except when the address changed a few weeks > ago, but I sorted that. It's not just you. Something seems to have gone awry with the package control file. This is a fragment of what it's delivering: sh: unzip: command not found Size: 2035293 MD5Sum: 43b8e5f76fca0849f1e7360baabb8aaa URL:http://www.netsurf-browser.org/downloads/development/riscpkg/netsurf-0.2008.03.06.2330.zip It should be more like this (from an old file): Package: NetSurf Priority: Optional Section: Web Maintainer: NetSurf developers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Version: 0.2008.02.02.1345 Depends: SharedUnixLibrary (>=1.0.7), Tinct (>=0.1.3), Iconv (>=0.0.8), RiscPkg (>=0.3.1.1) Licence: Free Standards-Version: 0.1.0 Description: Web browser NetSurf is an open-source web browser for RISC OS. Its aim is to bring the HTML 4 and CSS standards to the RISC OS platform. . This is a test version of NetSurf and may be unstable. Size: 2004511 MD5Sum: 208b29f2aa486767ff96c6f59b60a566 URL: http://www.netsurf-browser.org/downloads/development/riscpkg/netsurf-0.2008.02.02.1345.zip Hopefully it will be sorted when someone finds time. Evan.
Netsurf and RiscPkg
I tried to send this last night, but it didn't seem to arrive. Apologies if it appears twice. In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Geoffrey Baxendale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > Is it me, or has something gone wrong with RiskPkg or Netsurf's package > info? When I try to use it to update Netsurf, "Update" produces the > usual green bar, but then "Upgrade" doesn't flag up Netsurf to be > updated and "Commit" doesn't download anything. > It has always worked before, except when the address changed a few weeks > ago, but I sorted that. It's not just you. Something seems to have gone awry with the package control file. This is a fragment of what it's delivering: sh: unzip: command not found Size: 2035293 MD5Sum: 43b8e5f76fca0849f1e7360baabb8aaa URL:http://www.netsurf-browser.org/downloads/development/riscpkg/netsurf-0.2008.03.06.2330.zip It should be more like this (from an old file): Package: NetSurf Priority: Optional Section: Web Maintainer: NetSurf developers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Version: 0.2008.02.02.1345 Depends: SharedUnixLibrary (>=1.0.7), Tinct (>=0.1.3), Iconv (>=0.0.8), RiscPkg (>=0.3.1.1) Licence: Free Standards-Version: 0.1.0 Description: Web browser NetSurf is an open-source web browser for RISC OS. Its aim is to bring the HTML 4 and CSS standards to the RISC OS platform. . This is a test version of NetSurf and may be unstable. Size: 2004511 MD5Sum: 208b29f2aa486767ff96c6f59b60a566 URL: http://www.netsurf-browser.org/downloads/development/riscpkg/netsurf-0.2008.02.02.1345.zip Hopefully it will be sorted when someone finds time. Evan.
Re: netsurf buttonbar
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Roger Darlington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 6 Jan 2008, Evan Clark wrote: > > That could be because you have the MoveWindow module loaded. > Oooh yes. So I do. > Is there a use for this module (other than to accidentally move > Netserfs text entry box?). > I wonder why I have it loaded. I assume it must do something useful > somewhere (other than confound users unexpectedly). >From the Help file: = Usage - To move a window without using the title bar: Press and hold and . The window can then be dragged as normal by holding a mouse button down anywhere in the window. Use & and to keep the window at the same depth. = I find it useful for grabbing a window when only a tiny part of it is visible under a cluttered desktop. It comes with source which can easily be changed to use CTRL and ALT, which is less likely to clash with other programs. Evan.
Re: netsurf buttonbar
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Roger Darlington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Unless you're using Select or any of ROL's other names for RO4 with > > Select features. Select's text selection in writable icons feature > > stops URL bar dragging from working, unless you hold Shift or Ctrl as > > you drag. > If you hold both down at once you start moving the whole URL writeable > icon entry box! That could be because you have the MoveWindow module loaded. Evan.
Re: Cookies problem again?
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 30 Oct, John-Mark Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 30 Oct 2007, John wrote: > > >> On 30 Oct 2007, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>> Just wondering whether this problem has re-occurred or whether > > >>> this is just an awkward site? > > > > > > http://www3.interscience.wiley.com > > The latter, basically. It's a reasonably common problem, however, so > > there's a work around in the latest version. > That's great. Works now. Such service:) Thank you! And for anyone interested, it's now possible to log in to Yahoo Groups. Many thanks from me also :-) Evan.
Re: Interaction with TapirMail
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris Shepheard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > I hope I'm not talking about a "red herring" here but just lately I've > noticed a problem sometimes when trying to fetch emails with TapirMail > whilst Netsurf is running. No errors are reported from either program > it's just that TapirMail never seems to be able to connect to the > server. After more investigation, if Netsurf is quit while TapirMail is still trying to fetch, TapirMail throws up an error message 'Bad file descriptor'. Cancelling the error causes Tapirmail to disconnect. I've reported this to the author. Evan.
Re: Interaction with TapirMail
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris Shepheard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > I hope I'm not talking about a "red herring" here but just lately I've > noticed a problem sometimes when trying to fetch emails with TapirMail > whilst Netsurf is running. No errors are reported from either program > it's just that TapirMail never seems to be able to connect to the > server. > TapirMail is v.1.04 and Netsurf 10 June 2007 20:00, RO 4.02 > I can't find any way of definitely triggering the problem and it is > certainly intermittent however quitting Netsurf always cures the > problem. > However it appears to also affect VARPC-SE on the laptop. There I got > an error of Socket not connected: 25 (or very similar - 25 is > definitely the figure) whilst trying to send an email. Again quitting > Netsurf cured the problem. > Has anyone else experienced similar or is it a known problem? I've seen the same thing regularly since starting to use TapirMail a few months ago. I hadn't twigged to the involvement of Netsurf and had to resort to a machine reset to get TapirMail working again. I'm not sure how to further the diagnosis. Evan.
