Re: Image won't display

2018-06-14 Thread Vince M Hudd

On 12/06/18 18:35, Richard Torrens (lists) wrote:


That is because I have changed the image name so that it does work!


Now: http://stronged.torrens.org/man/modes/img/clklist.png

Why is that even an image?

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Re: Netsurf refresh -- frames

2016-05-03 Thread Vince M Hudd
Jim Nagel  wrote:

[...]

[^F5 apparently doesn't work with frames]

> Is there any way to cause a frame to reload?  Do the powers of ^F5 etc
> need to be extended?

Before suggesting a possible workaround, did you click on the individual
frame before hitting ^F5 ? I don't know if that'll make a difference, but it
seems plausible that you might need to tell NetSurf precisely what you want
reloaded.

Failing that, if it definitely doesn't work with frames, a possible
workaround might be to load the page into a new window (adjust click on the
link that loads the page into the frame) then, if the rendered page is the
old one, ^F5 on that.

If you need to see it in the context of the frameset, after doing that close
the new page then ^F5 on the whole again. Hopefully, it'll now reload the
whole frameset - but with the new page, since that's the last version it
used.

As with clicking on the individual frame first, I don't know if this'll work
- since I don't use frames, so I've never hit on the problem - but it seems
logical.

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Re: Netsurf refresh

2016-04-13 Thread Vince M Hudd
Jim Nagel  wrote:


[Reloading a page didn't load a new version]

> (Hmm, just noticed from a search of Netsurf menu that the shortcut for
> "Navigate > Reload page" is Ctrl-F5 -- I didn't try that unfamiliar
> keystroke, but presume it does same as above.

FWIW, Ctril-F5 - which may be unfamiliar, but is standard on all the
browsers I use (including NetSurf) - is the keystroke I use to reload pages
when working on websites because it *does* fetch a new version of the page,
rather than just reload it from a cache.

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Re: multi-core processors

2016-03-26 Thread Vince M Hudd
Brian  wrote:

> It does beg the question. What happens when NetSurf runs in VRPC on a Win
> 7 machine with a multi-core processor? Does VRPC take advantage of
> multiple cores?

This isn't really a NetSurf question since you're asking about VRPC, so I'm
reluctant to answer it here. I've therefore sent my reply to it to the
VirtualAcorn mailing list.

I'm not sure if you subscribe, so now that the message has appeared, it can
be found in the list archive here:

http://riscository.co.uk/pipermail/virtualacorn-list_riscository.co.uk/2016-March/002311.html

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Re: Filtering webpages

2016-01-29 Thread Vince M Hudd
Gavin Wraith  wrote:
> In message 
>   Vince M Hudd  wrote:

[blocking domains via the host file]

> > If you can do something similar in your router, you will achieve the
> > same result for any computer on your network.

> Thanks for that tip. I realize that the idea of a webpage being hosted at
> a particular URL, with pictures, styles, javascript, ... etc being loaded
> in from elsewhere is not necessarily realistic.

It's actually very *common* - for scripts in particular, with advertising
and analytics services being the most obvious examples.

You *might* find blocking such things results in a speed gain from NetSurf
on some sites (it depends on a number of factors), and/or you might find the
resulting pages are less cluttered and easier to read.

(TBH, I'm not yet using RISC OS / NetSurf enough [yet] to be able to do
anything more than suggest it as an untested possibility.)

> It is often quite hard to see from the source html text exactly what is
> happening.

True enough.

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Re: Filtering webpages

2016-01-28 Thread Vince M Hudd
Gavin Wraith  wrote:

> I would also like to be able to discriminate content by source URL and to
> give permissions for which should be blocked or which allowed through.

At the domain level, you could add entries to your hosts file for sources
you want blocked, along the lines of:

127.0.0.1google-analytics.com

This will effectively stop websites you visit on that computer *with any
browser* from loading anything from that domain.

If you can do something similar in your router, you will achieve the same
result for any computer on your network.

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Re: Mailing list archives

2013-03-09 Thread Vince M Hudd
John Rickman Iyonix  wrote:

> Is there anyway to search the NetSurf mailing list archives:-
> http://vlists.pepperfish.net/pipermail/netsurf-users-netsurf-browser.org/
> 
> I am trying to find a thread that occurred sometime 2009-2010 and am
> opening each month at a time. It is a bit slow.
> 

Use Google, but add the following to your search term:

site:vlists.pepperfish.net/pipermail/netsurf-users-netsurf-browser.org/

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Re: puzzling email

2011-10-20 Thread Vince M Hudd
Brian Bailey  wrote:
> [snip]

[...]

> I see that you use [Messenger Pro]

I use Messenger Pro for Windows, which is a different beast, so I'm afraid
you'll have to ask someone else (and somewhere more appropriate) to find out
how the RISC OS version handles HTML attachments.

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Re: puzzling email

2011-10-20 Thread Vince M Hudd
lists  wrote:
> In article ,
>    Vince M Hudd  wrote:

> > The bottom line, for users of Pluto, is that if you want to see attached
> > images displayed in the HTML, you'll need to save and manually edit.
> > (Remote images should be fine, of course).
 
> I use !Pluto
 
> I often receive attachments, usually jokes, where I see one attached file
> with an HTML file type and a number of JPEGs, sometimes GIFFs. I
> double-click on the HTML and a browser, Fresco of Netsurf, whichever has
> been seen by the filer, loads and displays the HTML file with all the
> images in the right place. No need for an intermediate save operation

Okay. I'm sure it didn't do that when I was using it, so maybe that's been
dealt with in an upgrade that came after I stopped. I'm not sure there were
many, and I thought mainly bug fixes (the way I remember it working wasn't a
bug, per se).

Or maybe I'm just remembering wrongly.

Either way, this is now off-topic.
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Re: puzzling email

2011-10-18 Thread Vince M Hudd
John-Mark Bell  wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-10-18 at 07:37 +0100, Brian Bailey wrote:

[HTML from an email renders without the BMP graphic]

> OK. So this has nothing to do with BMP images at all. The bitmap you sent
> me renders fine here.
 
> What is happening is that Pluto fails to rewrite the image reference in
> the HTML document, so NetSurf attempts to fetch a file that doesn't exist,
> and instead builds an error page, which then generates the BadType report.

It's a long time since I used Pluto, but my recollection is that it doesn't
treat HTML attachments any differently to any other type of attachment: You
double click on it, a temporary copy is saved and that's filer_run.

It doesn't parse the HTML in any way to see if any other attached files are
needed by it, so they aren't saved alongside it - and therefore, as you say,
the images references aren't rewritten.

The bottom line, for users of Pluto, is that if you want to see attached
images displayed in the HTML, you'll need to save and manually edit. (Remote
images should be fine, of course).

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Re: can't get at initials in Phone Book search

2011-02-25 Thread Vince M Hudd
Jim Nagel  wrote:

> a link to "More options" fails to appear in the dialogue at
> www.btexchanges.com (the online phonebook).
> 
> XP Firefox shows this link to the right of the Search button, just below
> "View on a map".

The "More options" link is produced by this file:

http://www.btexchanges.com/jscript-v1.291.js

i.e. it's Javascript.

When you get a situation like that, just view the source and then search for
the text of the link you are missing (assuming a textual link and not an
image).

If it's there, is it in a piece of embedded script? If so, that's your
answer.

If it *isn't* there, search for the word script, and you might find
something that looks similar to (taken from the above page):


Re: Google Summer of Code Roundup

2009-09-20 Thread Vince M Hudd
Rob Kendrick  wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 18:42:49 +0100 Tim Hill  wrote:

> > As I said elsewhere, if the sky turns yellow with pink spots and 500
> > people commit to support a developer, it won't necessarily be me - the
> > pledge is just worded that way.
 
> > Is that clear now?
 
> As mud.

Tim was, I think, saying that there quite simply _won't_ be 500 people
coming forward to make a pledge. The point he was - obtusely - making is
that users are happy to sit back and moan about how things they aren't
paying for aren't being done the way they'd like, but not (enough would)
offer financial support to make it more viable for someone to devote more
time to it.

Or something along those lines. I suspect.

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Re: Speed of loading NetSurf

2009-05-29 Thread Vince M Hudd
Paul Stewart  wrote:
> On Fri 29/05/09 00:12 , Rob Kendrick  wrote:

> > And is another reason why people shouldn't keep !Scrap in a RAM disc,
 
> But isn't the whole idea of !Scrap, that all the files stored inside it
> are temporary files? Therefore storing !Scrap in a RAMDisc would appear
> logical.

That _should_ be true, but the problem is that it's not just used for
scrap/temporary data as it's name suggests - which Rob explained in the rest
of his comment; it's also used for cached data, which could be used across
more than one session.

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Soft Rock Software



Re: Ryanair web site "Book Cheap Flight" button

2008-08-14 Thread Vince M Hudd
Philip H Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Will someone explain (I'm a technical ignoramus) why the "Book Cheap
> Flight" button does not work when using Netsurf?

> http://www.Ryanair.com/site/EN

It calls a javascript function which validate the form data before
submitting it.

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Re: Before I complain ...

2008-02-25 Thread Vince M Hudd
John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 
> My local doctors practice is now proud to have a website where one
> can - in theory - make appointments, etc. One annoying feature of
> the site is that, on Netsurf at least, the page does not scale in
> width. Viewed on Windoze it looks fine :(

[...]
> can someone tell me what specifically is the problem
> before I do so? Or is it just a Netsurf problem since it also scales
> properly on O2?

Don't mention RISC OS specifically or anything like that. Take a
screenshot of the browser window so they can see what it looks like.
Either send that to them attached to an email or, if it's a contact
form (I didn't look at the page you mentioned for complaining), upload
it somewhere and tell them the URL.

The wording of the complaint itself should simply refer to the
screenshot, and point out that this is caused by poorly handled tables
- an extremely high fixed width, in a *nested* table, neither of which
is sensible (and nor should tables be used for layout.)

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Vince M Hudd
Soft Rock Software
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