OpenDNS and (Re: Problem on test build page.)

2011-03-22 Thread Tim Hill
In article 51b7e679a2brian.jord...@btinternet.com, Brian Jordan
brian.jord...@btinternet.com wrote:
 In article 20110322095119.ga4...@digital-scurf.org, Daniel
 Silverstone dsilv...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:
  On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 04:44:09PM +, Dr Peter Young wrote:
   Internal Server Error

  Could you please let us know which URL is causing this error, and
  whether or not it still does?

 I confirm that I also see what Peter has reported.

 All of the links under Recent SVN Activity on
 http://www.netsurf-browser.org/downloads/riscos/testbuilds give an
 error page when clicked on eg 12120 leads to
 http://source.netsurf-browser.org/?rev=12120view=rev

[Snip]

As a side note, this also reveals that OpenDNS may not be a good idea
with NetSurf because OpenDNS error pages use javascript and the
noscript section doesn't work here either.

(Yes, I know, I cried too..)

The page address returned is
http://guide.opendns.com/?url=source.netsurf-browser.org%2F%3Frev%3D12120%26view%3Drevservfail

Here's the noscript bit...

noscript
iframe frameborder=0
src=/main?url=source.netsurf-browser.org%2F%3Frev%3D12120%26view%3Drevamp;servfail=
 width=100% height=100%/iframe
/noscript

The page is completely blank in NetSurf.

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Re: OpenDNS and (Re: Problem on test build page.)

2011-03-22 Thread Russell Hafter - Lists
In article 51b7e8c26f...@timil.com, Tim Hill
t...@timil.com wrote:

 As a side note, this also reveals that OpenDNS may not be
 a good idea with NetSurf because OpenDNS error pages use
 javascript and the noscript section doesn't work here
 either.

As an openDNS user for a couple of years, I have to say that
I actually prefer the blank screen that NetSurf produces to
the page of normally irrelevant info that I get when using
Firefox.

Of course, this maybe down to the fact that I most often
encounter the OpenDNS page when I have misstyped a URL..

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Re: OpenDNS and (Re: Problem on test build page.)

2011-03-22 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:25:56AM +, Tim Hill wrote:
 
 As a side note, this also reveals that OpenDNS may not be a good idea
 with NetSurf because OpenDNS error pages use javascript and the
 noscript section doesn't work here either.

Does OpenDNS not just return NXDOMAIN when a domain does not exist?  If
it returns a rewrite to another page on error, then that's an excellent
reason to not use it.

B.



Re: OpenDNS and (Re: Problem on test build page.)

2011-03-22 Thread Russell Hafter - Lists
In article 20110322105125.ga15...@rjek.com, Rob Kendrick
r...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:

 On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:25:56AM +, Tim Hill wrote:

  As a side note, this also reveals that OpenDNS may not
  be a good idea with NetSurf because OpenDNS error pages
  use javascript and the noscript section doesn't work
  here either.

 Does OpenDNS not just return NXDOMAIN when a domain does
 not exist?  If it returns a rewrite to another page on
 error, then that's an excellent reason to not use it.

OpenDNS diverts you, using JS, to its own search engine
(which I have heard, is done by Yahoo).

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Re: OpenDNS and (Re: Problem on test build page.)

2011-03-22 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 11:08:32AM +, Russell Hafter - Lists wrote:
 In article 20110322105125.ga15...@rjek.com, Rob Kendrick
 r...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:
 
  On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:25:56AM +, Tim Hill wrote:
 
   As a side note, this also reveals that OpenDNS may not
   be a good idea with NetSurf because OpenDNS error pages
   use javascript and the noscript section doesn't work
   here either.
 
  Does OpenDNS not just return NXDOMAIN when a domain does
  not exist?  If it returns a rewrite to another page on
  error, then that's an excellent reason to not use it.
 
 OpenDNS diverts you, using JS, to its own search engine
 (which I have heard, is done by Yahoo).

Oh dear.  This means that their DNS servers lie to you about what exists
and what does not exist.  This breaks a startling number of things, as
discovered by Verisign when they tried to do it for .com, causing them
to hurriedly backtrack on it.

Anyway, this isn't related to NetSurf, or the problem reported (which is
an accidental server misconfiguration, not a DNS fault.)

B.



Re: OpenDNS and (Re: Problem on test build page.)

2011-03-22 Thread Tim Hill
In article 20110322111353.gb15...@rjek.com, Rob Kendrick
r...@netsurf-browser.org wrote:
 Anyway, this isn't related to NetSurf, or the problem reported (which
 is an accidental server misconfiguration, not a DNS fault.)

What about its inablility to render the noscript bit in my OP?

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Re: Problem on test build page.

2011-03-22 Thread Dr Peter Young
On 22 Mar 2011  Daniel Silverstone dsilv...@netsurf-browser.org 
wrote:

 On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 04:44:09PM +, Dr Peter Young wrote:
 Internal Server Error

 Could you please let us know which URL is causing this error, and whether or
 not it still does?

Yes, it still does. One example is 
http://source.netsurf-browser.org/?rev=12120view=rev
but any of the similar links from the test-builds page does the same. 
This is with RISC OS NetSurf r12104. I haven't tried with Windows 
Firefox, but am just going out for the rest of the day; I'll try 
Windows in the evening.

With best wishes,

Peter.

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Problem on test build page.

2011-03-21 Thread Dr Peter Young
When I visit the test build page, I usually click on the links from 
the latest build numbers, to check which are applicable to the RISC OS 
versions (the rest of the details are incomprehensible to me). Since 
this morning, I get an error message, saying:

Internal Server Error

The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was 
unable to complete your request.

Please contact the server administrator, [no address given] and inform 
them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done 
that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error 
log.

Additionally, a 500 Internal Server Error error was encountered while 
trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

I don't know how to contact the server administrator, so I'm 
mentioning this here.

Thanks in advance,

Peter.

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and  \/ ____  \  England.
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