Re: I would like / bulletpoint

2010-09-27 Thread barry
In article 515c2b9cc8joh...@ukgateway.net, John Williams
joh...@ukgateway.net wrote:
 In article 96e6ff5b51@nails.ukonline.co.uk, Jim Nagel
nets...@abbeypress.co.uk wrote:

  what does Pluto do with French characters such as é and É and ç?
  (characters 233, 201, 231 respectively = E9, C9, E7)

 Displays them correctly if set to 8-bit, but doesn't display these
 other non-ASCII characters which, like the pound sign, should not be
 used in e-mails for fear of upsetting elderly gentlemen like me with
 a tendency to pedantry, or confusing others.

and perhaps a high irascibility quotient..

If you use the Corpus Mono Spaced font you get the 'Bullet point' and
still get the ASCII artwork.

-- 
Barry A.
'Don't stop doing things because you're getting old,
otherwise you'll get old because you stop doing things!'



Re: I would like / bulletpoint

2010-09-25 Thread John Williams
In article 96e6ff5b51@nails.ukonline.co.uk,
   Jim Nagel nets...@abbeypress.co.uk wrote:

 what does Pluto do with French characters such as é and É and ç?
 (characters 233, 201, 231 respectively = E9, C9, E7)

Displays them correctly if set to 8-bit, but doesn't display these other
non-ASCII characters which, like the pound sign, should not be used in
e-mails for fear of upsetting elderly gentlemen like me with a tendency to
pedantry, or confusing others.

You'll be using smart quotes next!

I use a system font to display in Pluto, as is my right.
^^

It does not have 'bullet points'.  If I did use a proportional font, I
would lose all the ASCII artwork and any emphasis or pointing using the '^'
character would be misaligned.  But there is no guarantee it would have
'bullet points' in the same place yours does, or even at all.

'Ah', I hear you cry, 'but the system font is so awful to look at!'.

Not if you use a variant such as is available from:

http://irene.williams.free.fr/software/

- second item.

So you can't blame Pluto, even if you were pre-disposed to do so.

Of course, it's much more complicated than I've outlined, but to be sure,
only use ASCII plain text, or, if you need to, set to eight bit and add in
the standard accented characters.  But go further than that and you will
lose some people who will see strange characters amongst your text.

I wish Help file writers would realise this!  I once wrote a little program
to strip these rogue characters from otherwise plain text Help files.  I
would then resave the files to avoid the problem next time!


John




Re: I would like / bulletpoint

2010-09-25 Thread Erving
John Williams wrote:

 In article 96e6ff5b51@nails.ukonline.co.uk,
Jim Nagel nets...@abbeypress.co.uk wrote:
 
  what does Pluto do with French characters such as é and É and ç?
  (characters 233, 201, 231 respectively = E9, C9, E7)
 
 Displays them correctly if set to 8-bit, but doesn't display these other
 non-ASCII characters which, like the pound sign, should not be used in
 e-mails for fear of upsetting elderly gentlemen like me with a tendency to
 pedantry, or confusing others.
 
 You'll be using smart quotes next!
 
 I use a system font to display in Pluto, as is my right.
 ^^
 
 It does not have 'bullet points'.  

Strange, the system font supplied with this M/C has a full set of characters
including bullet points, pound sign etc. I use it by default, it may not be 
pretty by is clear and unambiguous (no confusion between 1 and I or L etc)

--  

Erving



Re: I would like / bulletpoint

2010-09-25 Thread David H Wild
In article 96e6ff5b51@nails.ukonline.co.uk, Jim Nagel
nets...@abbeypress.co.uk wrote:
  

  Wots all this? E-mail is a text-only medium.  If you want to use this
  crap, make it an attachment!

 it's only a bullet, character 143.  MPro displays it OK, but i see
 you're using Pluto, which apparently doesn't.

Pluto displayed it correctly here.

-- 
David Wild using RISC OS on broadband
www.davidhwild.me.uk