nettime 99 trillion errors: a short reply to Florian Cramer
Forian Cramer has published a fascinating pamphlet (WORDS MADE FLESH. Code, Culture, Imagination, Florian Cramer, 2005). However, small eruptions of disorder create the basis of the errata for CramerÂ’s text. To take the mathematically most monstrous: as Cramer knows, a small source code may have an astronomical product (p 54), so a couple of zeros add up to an unimaginable total of mistakes. Speaking of Queneau Cramer says: In 1961, he extended this concept into a computational poem, the 100,000 Billion Poems, a combinatory sonnet in ten variations.[47] It was printed in a book whose lines were individually sliced so that each line of poem could be turned like a page and picked from ten alternatives. From ten alternatives for the twelve sonnet lines, 10 [to the twelfth] possible poem combinations result. Having reduced the sonnet by a mere two lines (who is to say the form might not benefit for it? More aesthetically pleasing?) Cramer is quite a bit out (100 trillion minus 1 trillion = 99 American trillion). Perhaps Cramer is testing us. Wayne Clements www.in-vacua.com # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and info nettime-l in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net
nettime A Short Interview with artist Shannon Spanhake about the DoEAT group.
[header reformatted @ nettime] Q: So, let's start with the basics of Who, What, When, Where and How. How did The Department of Ecological Authoring Tactics, Inc. (DoEAT) group start? A: It began with some food projects I had started, thus the acronym, but it grew out of wanting to relieve myself from the institutional burden of being solely responsible for my thoughts and actions and to offer others this same shelter. It is not total anarchy, it is actually quite organized, it is simply adopting a methodology that many artistic, governmental, and corporate entities use to decentralize authorship. Q: Who are the members at this time? A: Rather than thinking of DoEAT as a group of individuals, I think it is more interesting to consider DoEAT as 'space' to be inhabited, not a physical space, but a conceptual plane that intersects with other planes (both physical and conceptual) in different ways to create alternate spatial ecologies and conceptual geographies. I am more interested in the idea of a template that is fixed around an ideology and a process rather then a group of people collaborating, where the realizations and articulations embodied by this template are variable. In much the same way that Rtmark, Al Qaeda, or even the Zapatistas statements regarding the name Marcos and his claims that the name doesn't inhabit the individual but rather, many individuals can inhabit the name. Our names aren't a secret or anything, currently at this very moment there is Shannon Spanhake, Camilo Ontiveros, Roberto Freddi, Jason Moore and Steve Rioux, but this could change in ten minutes or in two weeks, I like to think of DoEAT as an open-source twiki notice the t, because its not about anonymity, its about collaboration. MORE http://post.thing.net/blog/rdom - End forwarded message - # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and info nettime-l in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net
Re: nettime 99 trillion errors: a short reply to Florian Cramer
Am Donnerstag, 04. August 2005 um 23:37:31 Uhr (+0100) schrieb wayne clements: page and picked from ten alternatives. From ten alternatives for the twelve sonnet lines, 10 [to the twelfth] possible poem combinations result. Indeed it's fourteen lines and 10^14 combinations, thanks for the correction. -F -- http://cramer.netzliteratur.net # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and info nettime-l in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net
