Re: "in association with nettime.org"
Am Mittwoch, 29. November 2006 um 06:09:10 Uhr (+0100) schrieb Geert Lovink: > > A one-day conference in association with nettime.org > > which explores the geographical and social structures of workers in > > the Creative Industries and particularly the New Media sector How can a conference be made "in association with nettime.org" without any poll on the list? All the more when it perpetuates that terribly stupid meme of the "Creative Industries"? Or is this event a fraud and refers to nettime without any authorization? It it time for some tactical media use of ubermorgen.com's "Injunction Generator" against the organizers of that event? -F -- http://cramer.plaintext.cc:70 gopher://cramer.plaintext.cc # distributed via : no commercial use without permission # is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net
Re: Racism and Sexism at Citizendium
Am Dienstag, 28. November 2006 um 11:44:57 Uhr (-0700) schrieb Kali Tal: > I am withdrawing from Citizendium because of the racist and sexist > policy put in place by Larry Sanger, who claims that the disciplines > of Ethnic Studies and Gender Studies do not belong in the list of top > level categories in Citizendium, or as individual categories at all. > Sanger has unilaterally decided that all race and gender topics > should be split up under traditional disciplinary headings, so that > there will be, for example, a sub-group of "African American > Literature," and "African American History," but no category -- at > any level -- in African American studies, and he embraces the same > tactic of fragmenting other Ethnic Studies and Gender Studies. The > fact that his broad strokes of exclusion primarily effect women and > minority scholars does not seem to matter to him. Two remarks: - If one participates in a project that is structurally conservative (as an elitist, anti net-cultural counter-project to Wikipedia), it's hardly surprising if it's also structurally conservative in its content. If there is a lesson to be learned for feminist, queer studies, African American studies etc. intellectuals, then the one that they should finally look beyond conservative academia and traditional publishing. Wikipedia, in fact, is such an alternative, and would overcome much of its quality problems if more academics and intellectuals would bother to contribute to it. (That said, there also are amazingly good Wikipedia articles on philosophical and humanities topics.) It always struck me as odd that, for example, you need to attend expensive ivy league universities in order to study with the best scholars in that field, and that minority students at inexpensive state schools hardly have a chance of studying with reputed scholars in those fields. (Back in the 1990s, as an exchange student in the USA, I struck me - from my European point of view - as plainly obscene that self-declared Marxists taught at Duke University.) - To have a conservative understanding of displicines is one thing, to be racist and sexist another. Many feminists, in fact, are opposed to disciplines like Women Studies because they consider them ghettos and find it more important to "hack", or rewrite, disciplines like literature and history altogether. But even as a conservative, Sanger shouldn't be called a racist unless he claimed that, for example, African American history didn't belong into Citizendium at all. Florian -- http://cramer.plaintext.cc:70 gopher://cramer.plaintext.cc # distributed via : no commercial use without permission # is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net
Re: all that is solid melts into airwaves
Wow! A new low. Let's send reviews of books you've authored over the list... Is it just me or is this just not done? grtz BjornW McKenzie Wark wrote: > All That is Solid Melts into Airwaves > Theory and Event Vol. 9 No. 2 2006 >=20 > Deborah Halbert >=20 > http://muse.jhu.edu.libproxy.newschool.edu/journ > als/tae/v009/9.2halbert.html#top <...> # distributed via : no commercial use without permission # is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net
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Re: "in association with nettime.org" "martin hardie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> John Hopkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 15:55:31 +0100 From: "martin hardie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: "in association with nettime.org" netime by poll??? a nettime poll tax? On 11/29/06, Florian Cramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 29. November 2006 um 06:09:10 Uhr (+0100) schrieb Geert > Lovink: > > > > A one-day conference in association with nettime.org > > > which explores the geographical and social structures of workers in > > > the Creative Industries and particularly the New Media sector > > How can a conference be made "in association with nettime.org" without > any poll on the list? All the more when it perpetuates that terribly > stupid meme of the "Creative Industries"? Or is this event a fraud and > refers to nettime without any authorization? > > It it time for some tactical media use of ubermorgen.com's "Injunction > Generator" against the organizers of that event? <...> -- #+34 666519359 # #http://openflows.org/~auskadi/ # #http://auskadi.civiblog.org # #http://auskadi.tk # #IRC: aussieman on #gentlegeeks at freenode.net # The lover wants the loved one with all its predicates, its being such as it is. The lover desires the as only insofar as it is such -this is the lover's particular fetishism. Giorgio Agamben The Coming Community - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 12:18:12 -0700 From: John Hopkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: "in association with nettime.org" > CYBERSALON @ THE DANA CENTRE > DIGITAL WORK & CREATIVE MAPPING > The Science Museum's Dana Centre, 165 Queen's Gate, South Kensington, > London SW7 5HE > Date: March 07 - to be announced > Cost: Cost and booking details to be announced > Nearest tubes: South Kensington/Gloucester Road On the front page of the Dana Center "The Dana Center is sexing up science for the masses" sheesh! And I find no mention of this project in the calendar for March 2007. > > > A one-day conference in association with nettime.org >> > which explores the geographical and social structures of workers in >> > the Creative Industries and particularly the New Media sector at one level -- as an individual who doesn't often identify myself as a 'nettimer', more simply a participant in the nettime network -- who cares? although it would be interesting to know WHO exactly from nettime is facilitating this 'association.' on the other hand it could be interpreted as a cheap tactic of career promotion of an individual climber. what about insisting that there be a public synchronous forum available to nettime 'associatess' to actually input into the conference space... >How can a conference be made "in association with nettime.org" without >any poll on the list? All the more when it perpetuates that terribly >stupid meme of the "Creative Industries"? Or is this event a fraud and >refers to nettime without any authorization? good questions. I believe we are entitled to answers! Cheers John - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - # distributed via : no commercial use without permission # is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net
