Re: nettime Copyright, Copyleft and the Creative Anti-Commons
that compos'd it. [...] 'Twould be unaccountably severe, to make a Man answerable for the Miscarriages of a thing which he shall not reap the benefit of if well perform'd; there is no Law so much wanting in the Nation, relating to Trade and Civil Property, as this, nor is there a greater Abuse in any Civil Employment, than the printing of other Mens Copies, every jot as unjust as lying with their Wives, and breaking-up their Houses. (An Essay on the Regulation of the Press, 1704) and Luther and Fichte ... If it were possible for artists to make a living today without copyright, we would need to go back to the times of patrons (mecenates) who sponsored individual artists. Today we can get sponsored by companies or through grants from the government. However, many artists do not regard either of those alternatives a very satisfactory solution. They want to be able to support themselves. The integrity of the work as well as that of its creator is another issue that is often neglected by copyright's opponents. Defoe talks about it. Luther does too. Money isn't everything. Authenticity is paramount in science and for the progress of knowledge in society. In most countries these questions are subject to the moral rights part of copyright. In the US it is mostly a question of defamation etc. However, tying matters of integrity, presentation context etc. directly to the regulation of work-creator-public relations is more straightforward in my opinion. Copyright needs reform. Copyright stands and falls with its exceptions. Therefore it is important to fight for e.g. the right to quote (and to quote extensively without having to ask permission), a right which is now being under attack. It is also important to defend the public domain from infringement. Many archives and libraries claim copyright to their reproductions of e.g. medieval manuscripts. Copyright AND its exceptions must be defended - not abolished. See also my article The Misunderstood Idea of Copyright, at http://www.nisus.se/archive/050902e.html Karl-Erik Tallmo __ KARL-ERIK TALLMO, Swedish writer, artist and journalist. Contributor to Nordic dailies and magazines for the last 25 years. Tallmo has written six books. He has participated as an expert in governmental investigations on new media and been a member of advisory boards, e.g. at the Royal Library, the Swedish IT Commission, and the Swedish Research Council. ARTICLE ARCHIVE, ART WORKS ETC: http://www.nisus.se/tallmo MAGAZINE: http://art-bin.com __ # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and info nettime-l in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net
nettime a few thoughts and sounds
Glenn Gould's thoughts on The Prospects of Recording (1966) are very relevant for today's discussion about automated, sampled, networked music - and culture in general, I believe: I predicted that the public concert as we know it today would no longer exist a century hence, that its functions would have been entirely taken over by electronic media. Recordings deal with concepts through which the past is reevaluated, and they concern notions about the future which will ultimately question even the validity of evaluation. Fellow Torontian Marshall McLuhan: The past went that-a-way. When faced with a totally new situation, we tend always to attach ourselves to the objects, to the flavor of the most recent past. We look at the present through a rear-view mirror. We march backwards into the future. Suburbia lives imaginatively in Bonanza-land. (The Medium is the Massage, 1967) Karl-Erik Tallmo evaluates the recent Swedish election with a verbo-voco-musical comment: http://www.nisus.se/audio/wounds.128.mp3 (Thanks for the Wounds) Glenn Gould again: Automation: a crusade which musicians' union leaders currently share with typesetters and which they affirm with the fine disdain of featherbedding firemen for the diesel locomotive. In the midst of a proliferation of recorded sound which virtually erases earlier listening patterns, the American Federation of Musicians promotes that challenging motto LIVE MUSIC IS BEST -- A judgment with the validity of a Win with Wilkie sticker on the windshield of a well-preserved '39 LaSalle. Karl-Erik Tallmo: http://www.nisus.se/audio/machinemachine.be.ram (I am Machine Machine Perhaps) Gould again on authenticity and identity: The role of the forger, of the unknown maker of unauthenticated goods, is emblematic of electronic culture. And when the forger is done honor for his craft and no longer reviled for his acquisitiveness, the arts will have become a truly integral part of our civilization. Karl-Erik Tallmo on identity: http://www.nisus.se/audio/stockhausen128.be.mp3 According to B W Powe, Glenn Gould also said: In the electronic age the art of music will become much more viably a part of our lives, much less an ornament to them, and that it will consequently change them much more profoundly. Ipods? And Powe also quotes McLuhan: In the electronic age we are living entirely by music. Powe, however, cannot state the source text for this. See Noise of Time at http://www.collectionscanada.ca/glenngould/028010-502.10-e.html#d On the other hand, communication is making, The person who sees or heeds or hears is engaged in making a response to a situation which is mostly of his own fictional invention. (McLuhan in a conversation with G. E. Stearn, McLuhan Hot Cool, 1967.) Also John Cage believed that a person who doesn't consider a particular piece of music to even be music, still has approached the piece in question in a musical way. Karl-Erik Tallmo (Overview of audio works: http://www.nisus.se/tallmo/sound) _ KARL-ERIK TALLMO, poet, writer, artist, journalist ARTWORK, WRITINGS etc.: http://www.nisus.se/tallmo/ SOUND MUSIC: http://www.nisus.se/tallmo/sound/ MAGAZINE: http://art-bin.com _ # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and info nettime-l in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net
Re: nettime a few thoughts and sounds
Yeah. I think GG MM were colleagues at the university. Reportedly they did meet, but if they really communicated is uncertain: But above all, I think 90% of Gould's importance in the world is as a great pianist, and we must try not to explain him too much. This tendency apparently reached its climax in the occasional encounters between Glenn and fellow communicator, Marshall McLuhan. They liked to get together and communicate at each other, and both subsequently made it clear that they couldn't understand one word of what the other was talking about, possibly with good reason. (Margaret Pacsu in Gould, the Communicator: Panel discussion held at the National Library of Canada Wednesday, May 25, 1988) A mention of Marshall McLuhan reminds me of something which Glenn once said to me. I knew him extremely well. I knew him for a very long time, and we were talking about Marshall, who was a mutual friend, and he said: 'You know, I somehow think Marshall is more connected with the medium -- somehow I feel I'm closer to the message'. John Roberts in Gould, the Communicator: Panel discussion held at the National Library of Canada Wednesday, May 25, 1988 See http://www.collectionscanada.ca/glenngould/028010-502.8-e.html /Karl-Erik Tallmo # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and info nettime-l in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net
Re: nettime Segmund
At 15.46 -0400 06-04-24, Alan Sondheim wrote: What is it that people speak about, in these days of dead-film, dead- cinema? It is not what people spoke about. Cinema is what they spoke about. Cinema is history, networking is speaking, video is what they speak about. Listen to a conversation, well it is not the same conversation, it is always already a future anterior, already a dead conversation, people speaking from the dead. Among living networks, video, living performance, organisms. The dead are a carapace on the living. Cinema is popular, is always popular, if not film, the enormous screen, eye, darkened theater, imagination, comfort of infinite speakers. I somehow come to think of this McLuhan quotation: The past went that-a-way. When faced with a totally new situation, we tend always to attach ourselves to the objects, to the flavor of the most recent past. We look at the present through a rear-view mirror. We march backwards into the future. Suburbia lives imaginatively in Bonanza-land. (The Medium is the Massage, 1967) /Karl-Erik Tallmo KARL-ERIK TALLMO, poet, writer, artist, journalist MAGAZINE: http://art-bin.com ARTWORK, WRITINGS etc.: http://www.nisus.se/tallmo/ # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and info nettime-l in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net
Re: nettime The Hitman's Dilemma
1. 'Don't take this personal, it's just business' You're my friend. I'd kill you for nothing. Harpo Marx in Cocoanuts (1929) /Karl-Erik Tallmo -- _ KARL-ERIK TALLMO, writer, editor ARCHIVE: http://www.nisus.se/archive/artiklar.html BOOK: http://www.nisus.se/gorgias ANOTHER BOOK: http://www.copyrighthistory.com MAGAZINE: http://art-bin.com _ # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and info nettime-l in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
nettime Even more news about Swedish tobacco scientist
Hello all! Today the world news almost exploded with material about the Swedish scientist Ragnar Rylander, and his secret work for the tobacco industry. An article published Thursday in The Lancet, titled The whole truth and nothing but the truth? The research that Philip Morris did not want you to see, written by Pascal Diethelm, Jean-Charles Rielle and Martin McKee, reveals to some extent new information about Philip Morris secret lab (INBIFO) in Cologne in Germany, where Rylander was coordinator and supervisor. The researchers knew about the dangers of passive smoking and so-called sidestream smoke at least from 1982 and wrote about it in approx. 800 confidential reports, but did not publish anything about this until 1994. After only a few hours there were 35 links about this at Google news, among them: http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=143sid=5334328 http://wireservice.wired.com/wired/story.asp?section=BreakingstoryId=948659tw=wn_wire_story http://www.smh.com.au/news/Health/Tobacco-giant-accused-of-passive-smoke-coverup/2004/11/11/1100131138779.html http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-040243nov11,1,2838696.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4000417.stm http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,1348111,00.html http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=healthNewsstoryID=6776973 http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=1508ncid=751e=11u=/afp/20041110/hl_afp/health_disease_cancer http://www.healthtalk.ca/smoking_risks_2004_3993.php http://www.elitestv.com/pub/2004/Nov/EEN4193996221dbf.html http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/508239/ http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,11352112%255E1702,00.html http://abc.net.au/science/news/health/HealthRepublish_1241893.htm http://www.healthcentral.com/news/NewsFullText.cfm?id=1505205 http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=16231 The Lancet editor Richard Horton publishes the article beforehand on the web because of its urgency: Given the continuing debate about the way governments should respond to calls for a ban on smoking in public places, we have published this work early online to inform that discussion as a matter of urgency, Richard Horton says. This happens only little more than a week after Geneva University distanced itself from professor Rylander and even wishes to warn the entire scientific community against Rylander's research results, not just a few studies but the totality of his works over 30 years. The Lancet article itself is at: http://image.thelancet.com/extras/03art7306web.pdf Karl-Erik Tallmo __ KARL-ERIK TALLMO, Swedish writer, artist and journalist. Contributor to Nordic dailies and magazines for the last 25 years. Tallmo has written three books. He has participated as an expert in governmental investigations on new media and been a member of advisory boards, e.g. at the Royal Library, the Swedish IT Commission, and the Swedish Research Council. ARCHIVE: http://www.nisus.se/archive/artiklar.html MAGAZINE: http://art-bin.com __ # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and info nettime-l in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
nettime University warns against scientist
Hello all! I have earlier (in 2002) reported on this list about the Swedish scientist Ragnar Rylander, working with environmental medicine at both the university in Gothenburg, Sweden, and in Geneva, Switzerland, who has been one of the tobacco industry's (secret) top star consultants in the world. Recently, the Geneva university published its report on the case after a lengthy investigation of the professor's ties with the industry as well as of his scientific studies. The conclusion is something quite unique. Not only does the university distance itself from professor Rylander and his secret ties and secret tobacco industry funding, but they actually warn the global scientific community against the whole body of his work. And they will issue these warnings further through three leading scientific journals. The report was published October 29th in French (http://www.unige.ch/rectorat/pdf/Rapport_Rylander.pdf) and now it is available in English as well, see: http://www.prevention.ch/rye060904.pdf I will quote a couple of significant paragraphs: The scientific community and the general public must be told that serious suspicion hangs over Ragnar Rylander's studies on the effects of environmental tobacco smoke on health because the author has not disclosed conflicts of interest that may influence the significance of his research and that, given his role as secret employee of the industry, he cannot be considered as an independent scientist. The Fact-Finding Commission proposes that notification to this effect be sent to the following journals: - European Journal of Public Health - Archives of Environmental Health - International Journal of Epidemiology [p. 4] Considering his close association with the tobacco industry and the duplicity of his attitude throughout his professional career, it appears that Ragnar Rylander was not able to preserve his intellectual independence in the face of specific commercial interests. Documentary evidence leads one to believe that the attitude he adopted in his professional life consisted in unilaterally defending the interests of the tobacco industry in the conflict pitting the latter against scientists convinced of the harmful effects of passive smoking. He helped to elaborate the industry's strategy and in his agreements with the industry accepted a secrecy clause that led him to suppress information known to him regarding the toxic effects of smoking. The Commission considers it legitimate to doubt the validity of the body of Ragnar Rylander's work directly or indirectly concerned with tobacco smoke. [p. 22] (If you wish to read a little more background material on this - including links to significant tobacco documents - see my article http://www.nisus.se/archive/020610e.html) Karl-Erik Tallmo __ KARL-ERIK TALLMO, Swedish writer, artist and journalist. Contributor to Nordic dailies and magazines for the last 25 years. Tallmo has written three books. He has participated as an expert in governmental investigations on new media and been a member of advisory boards, e.g. at the Royal Library, the Swedish IT Commission, and the Swedish Research Council. ARCHIVE: http://www.nisus.se/archive/artiklar.html MAGAZINE: http://art-bin.com __ # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and info nettime-l in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
nettime Culturenet Sweden faces sudden shutdown
The Swedish Culturenet is to be shut down by the government - on rather strange grounds. People are protesting. The petition mentioned in the below text (http://www.fsk.net/kulturnateng.html) was when I last checked signed by 921 people - in just a few days. Now, also international friends of the Culturenet may sign ... TIA!! /Karl-Erik Tallmo Culturenet Sweden (http://www.kultur.nu) - a large web site giving the Swedish people access to all kinds of culture - is now being shut down by the government after nine years of existence. Through the years Culturenet Sweden has built a large systematically organized catalogue of links to all sorts of Swedish culture; artists, musicians, writers, actors, theater groups, dancers, libraries, archives, museums, galleries, book stores, antiquarian book sellers, governmental agencies concerned with cultural matters, organizations, research, education etc. Right now, in the Fall of 2004, the link catalogue contains approx. 8 000 links. The information in the link catalogue is highly refined and systematized. This service is augmented by a mailinglist hosting service, a notice board where anybody may advertise their cultural events or achievements, a unique press release service, the services Ask a librarian, and What happens?, the latter an online calendar, listing current events, and finally an online cultural magazine. Culturenet Sweden is unique in its scope - since it includes official institutions as well as individual artists, commercial and non-commercial endeavors. Culturenet Sweden is a cultural community, attracting several thousand unique visitors every day. This highly appreciated service is now to be shut down, according to the latest finance bill. The reason for this is - according to the bill - that there is today a large amount of entrepreneurs who provide Internet based search engines for the public. This means that a government funded endeavor in this area no longer can be motivated. This, however, is not true. There is no search engine for specifically Swedish cultural matters on the web. And Culturenet Sweden is much more than a search engine. Culturenet Sweden provides highly refined information ABOUT but foremost BY cultural Sweden itself, regardless of which ministry a certain item belongs to, regardless of if it is public or private, commercial or non-commercial. There is an online petition about this for English speaking international friends of the Culturenet: see http://www.fsk.net/kulturnateng.html More reading: Culturenet Sweden faces sudden shutdown http://home5.swipnet.se/%7Ew-56585/article.html -- __ KARL-ERIK TALLMO, Swedish writer, artist and journalist. Contributor to Nordic dailies and magazines for the last 25 years. Tallmo has written three books. He has participated as an expert in governmental investigations on new media and been a member of advisory boards, e.g. at the Royal Library, the Swedish IT Commission, and the Swedish Research Council. ARCHIVE: http://www.nisus.se/archive/artiklar.html MAGAZINE: http://art-bin.com __ # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and info nettime-l in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nettime A Puff Piece on Wikipedia (Fwd)
Keith Hart wrote: text warez wrote: you completly misunderstood the role of an author. There is no identification of the person addressed as you, but I will fill in. Well, not only does that text lack recipient, if there is no such thing as author it even lacks a sender. Neither a you nor an I ... And this is more than a pun. If text creators (or other creators of information) are not acknowledged in some way - maybe we could all have numbers - all discussion will become impossible. It will be like trying to debate anonymously in a darkened room where everybody listens and talks through microphones and headphones with som equalizing sound device that makes voices unrecognizable. Even all sense of direction would be lost. I believe this is an aspect that is very important to realize, now that we live in what is sometimes called the knowledge society. Knowledge will deteriorate without a possibility to evaluate the sender of information. We do it all the time, in trivial situations. Say you read a film review - you will probably judge the reviewer's opinion from what you know earlier about him/her and his/her writings. Imposssible without authorship. And in science there is more at stake than a bad evening at the movie theater. What interests me is that you think there is only one role of the author and that whoever doesn't share your idea of it has misunderstood. You didn't have to give clues to the genealogy of your line (Nietzsche, Derrida, Foucault -- why not list all the usual suspects?). I agree with Keith. And it wouldn't even be possible to mention Nietzsche, Derrida, and Foucault if there are no authors. You would have to say something like the container of intertextual discourse presently labeled as Nietzsche, etc. /The Container of Intertextual Discourse Presently Labeled as Karl-Erik Tallmo -- _ KARL-ERIK TALLMO, writer, editor ARCHIVE: http://www.nisus.se/archive/artiklar.html BOOK: http://www.nisus.se/gorgias ANOTHER BOOK: http://www.copyrighthistory.com MAGAZINE: http://art-bin.com _ # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and info nettime-l in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: nettime A Puff Piece on Wikipedia (Fwd)
snip It was just an exercise in comparing now and then, here and now. I don't have a particular axe to grind. Since I write quite a lot, I think about what makes heroes of some writers and how their achievement might be grounded in their social practice. Strauusian enough for you, Kermit? Keith Hart I think anonymity versus attribution is not merely a question of fame and fortune or 'cred', but of a literate culture spinning webs of ideas with strands which are traceable regarding their sources - primary, secondary etc. Even the Wiki may obviously account for IP numbers. We need some instrument for overviewing the revision history of documents and thus be able to estimate their reliability, truthfulness or authenticity, which in turn is crucial for their usefulness. This, BTW, is part of the so often misunderstood moral aspect of copyright. Karl-Erik Tallmo -- _ KARL-ERIK TALLMO, writer, editor ARCHIVE: http://www.nisus.se/archive/artiklar.html BOOK: http://www.nisus.se/gorgias ANOTHER BOOK: http://www.copyrighthistory.com MAGAZINE: http://art-bin.com _ # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and info nettime-l in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
nettime source texts/copyright history
Hello, I have uploaded a few source texts from the history of copyright: Donaldson v. Beckett, from 1774 and the Fichte text Beweis der Unrechtmäßigkeit des Büchernachdrucks from 1793. Donaldson v. Beckett was the trial which finally ended the so called Battle of Booksellers, that had been going on since the passing of the statute of Anne in 1710. In several trials during more than 60 years both the book industry and the judges had been fighting over the question whether the Statute of Anne really abolished a common law perpetual copyright or not. See http://www.copyrighthistory.com/donaldson.html In the text Beweis der Unrechtmäßigkeit des Büchernachdrucks Fichte was among the first - if not the very first - to clearly distinguish between form and content, thus elevating form to a kind of personal property worth protecting. See http://www.copyrighthistory.com/fichte.html (in German with English comments and excerpts.) (The first copyright law in the world is also available at the site, the Statute of Anne from 1710, se http://www.copyrighthistory.com/anne.html) Karl-Erik Tallmo -- _ KARL-ERIK TALLMO, writer, editor ARCHIVE: http://www.nisus.se/archive/artiklar.html BOOK: http://www.nisus.se/gorgias ANOTHER BOOK: http://www.copyrighthistory.com MAGAZINE: http://art-bin.com _ # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and info nettime-l in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
nettime Radio Woodmen from Smallest Perpetual
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