Re: nettime P2P Foundation: A Synthetic Overview of the Collaborative Economy (new book)

2012-10-01 Thread Felix Stalder


On 09/28/2012 12:22 PM, Jaromil wrote:


collaborative rather than cooperative - maybe this is just a
prank to make Volker Grassmuck hangry :^)


Open source collaborates, free software cooperates :)

There is a re-branding going on to make this business-friendly. And
business friendly it has become: Now even CBit, one of the largest
electronic fairs, has announced the Shareconomy (what an ugly term!)
has it main theme for 2013.

 New information and communications technologies provide the
foundation. The sharing phenomenon is proving in all of its facets to
be a pivotal factor in achieving responsible growth.

http://www.cebit.de/de/informationen-fuer/journalisten/news/pressemitt
eilungen?id=283328lang=GB


For me, the political test for all these things is whether they are
set as alternatives to commodity markets and private ownership, or
as alternatives to public infrastructures. In the first case, one
might get something interesting, in the second it's compassionate
neo-liberalism.


Felix





--- http://felix.openflows.com  books out now:
*|Vergessene Zukunft. Radikale Netzkulturen in Europa. transcript 2012
*|Deep Search. The Politics of Searching Beyond Google. Studienv. 2009
*|Mediale Kunst/Media Arts Zurich.13 Positions. ScheideggerSpiess2008
*|Manuel Castells and the Theory of the Network Society.Polity P. 2006
*|Open Cultures and the Nature of Networks. Ed Futura / Revolver, 2005


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Re: nettime P2P Foundation: A Synthetic Overview of the Collaborative Economy (new book)

2012-10-01 Thread Brian Holmes

On 10/01/2012 02:55 AM, Felix Stalder wrote:


For me, the political test for all these things is whether they are
set as alternatives to commodity markets and private ownership, or
as alternatives to public infrastructures. In the first case, one
might get something interesting, in the second it's compassionate
neo-liberalism.


I don't wanna nitpick, but the question is whether the share-tech 
rollout of the electronics corporations is USED as an alternative to the 
commodity markets and private ownership. All rhetoric aside, and Michel 
Bauwen's work notwithstanding, I would really be amazed if any 
corporation today is doing anything but grabbing for the ever-expanding 
markets of what were once public infrastructures and services (they're 
now disappearing as fast as manufacturing jobs here in the US). The 
strange thing about our moment, which both Michel and Keith Hart point 
to in their particular ways, is that we have at once massive and even 
savage commodification of the formerly public sphere (that's maybe 
what's meant when people talk about the former West) and at the same 
time, the commodities being exchanged reveal as perhaps never before 
their other face, which is their use value, as both constructive and 
expressive tools.


All I can say is we better use 'em. The current crisis is mopping up the 
remains of the postwar welfare-state institutions. To the exact extent 
that new forms of social cooperation do NOT emerge, there will be 
increasing social violence as predatory capitalism is taken to its 
logical conclusions on the ground.


To the extent that they DO emerge, we have the chance to create 
something fabulous and new, the very figure of generosity, solidarity 
and beauty in the social realm. It's what Virno called the non-state 
public sphere.


Yes, you live in interesting times, my friends.

Brian


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Re: nettime P2P Foundation: A Synthetic Overview of the Collaborative Econo...

2012-10-01 Thread Ryan Griffis
On Oct 1, 2012, at 3:08 AM, nettime-l-requ...@mail.kein.org wrote:

 Technology changes EVERYTHING.  Really.

Everybody sing along:
There's a hole in the bucket...


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