Re: nettime The Whole Earth -- Conference (Berlin, HKW 21/22 June

2013-07-25 Thread Newmedia
John:
 
 Anyway, Mark, get the catalog and listen 
 to the podcasts that Nina gave the 
 addresses of... it's well  worth your time.
 
Thanks, I did.  Unfortunately, it's all in German (including the  
translation of Fred's speech), except for his interview -- which I  recommend.  
Maybe 
Diana/Pit have the English original of the speech?
 
I helped Fred with Counterculture and have staying in touch. I did  not 
help him with the new Democratic Surround book (due out in Nov.) but I've  
discussed it with him and, correctly, he focuses on Gregory Bateson and 
*not*  Wiener in terms of the cybernetics aspect of all this.
 
As it turns out, Wiener *refused* to work with Bateson (and his then-wife  
Margaret Mead and Social Psychologist Kurt Lewin), which he specifically  
mentions in the Introduction to his 1948 Cybernetics -- for the reasons that 
 he lays out in his 1950 The Human Use of Human Beings (where he doesn't  
mention Bateson or Mead).
 
Wiener wanted *NOTHING* to do with the controlling humans  aspect of 
cybernetics -- quite deliberately.  That was BATESON and others  from the 
Cybernetics Group and the later Society for General Systems  Research!
 
The HKW fellow who interviews Fred doesn't seem to know about any of this,  
perhaps in part because Richard Barbrook has been ducking my attempts to  
*correct* what he has written and what seems to be taken-for-granted in the  
Cybersalon circles in London.  
 
Like the drunk who looks for his car keys under the streetlamp, they have  
been looking in the *wrong* place because that's where the light is.
 
At the heart of the relationship between LSD and cybernetics -- both of  
which were/are used as technologies to PURIFY a corrupt humanity -- is 
Stewart  Brand.  He was both a protege of Bateson, as well as his publicist  
(partly through John Brockman in New York) as well as the publicist for LSD  
(particularly at the Trips Festivals).
 
It was Brand who famously said (something like), If you really want to  
change humanity, then electronics will be much more powerful than LSD.   
He's the one who took the hippies and got them online.
 
Not much of a leap there on Fred's part (with some help, of  course).  If 
you do watch the interview, notice how the interviewer never  brings up LSD 
and how Fred reluctantly mentions it in his answer about where  the idea 
of Whole Earth came from.  Did the exhibit deal  with LSD at all . . . ??

 I'm thinking that the next step to  this 
 exhibition would be a wide creative 
 exploration of  (open/living/general) systems 
 theory from Bertalanffy to Church, Miller, 
 Odum, Simms, etc etc and all those who 
 were outside the cybernetics/cold 
 war systems  context.

Great idea!  However, like LSD, you really can't remove any  of this from 
that dominant Cold War context.  Unless they were threatened  with 
prosecution, as was Wiener, forcing him into retirement, then ALL of  these 
characters were involved in the same matrix of funding, motivation and  
outcomes.
 
Thanks for the pointer to Leslie's book.  As you might recall, I've  
brought up Christopher Simpson's Science of Coercion, as well a number of 
more  
recent works on the role of the CIA and, those who were really setting the  
crucial social-science research agenda in the 1950s/60s, the FOUNDATIONS, on 
the  list.
 
Mark


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nettime Feral Trade's Packet Network

2013-07-25 Thread Matthew Fuller
Feral Trade's Packet Network

Kate Rich is a Bristol based artist who for ten years has been running
Feral Trade (feraltrade.org) a global trading network working with
people's incidental carrying power. Social networks here provide, not
sets of spindly lines and nodes as graphs for the extraction of value,
but a means of hefting foodstuffs in suitcases, rucksacks and bags as
people travel.  Feral trade is currently a means of circulating coffee,
blue corn, agave syrup, mescal, chocolate, olive oil and the syrup with
which to produce 'Cube Cola', an open source cola devised for the cube
cinema. The fascinating Waybills of Feral Trade transported goods
provide a log of the transit of each object, mixing logistical
information with reminiscences, photos and personal data, making another
map of infrastructures, informal trade and data-structures as they move
through idiosyncratic channels around the world.

(This interview was carried out by email in mid-2013 by Silvia Mollichi
and Matthew Fuller.)

SM: The Feral Trade website mentions its use of the surplus potential
of social, cultural and data networks for the distribution of goods. Is
it possible to relate this surplus or excess to the slowed-down rhythm
and non-linear routes your traded items transit through? Would you say
that your business re-defines questions of efficiency?

KR: Yes I think so. Or replaces one idea of efficiency with another one.
Right now I am shipping 6 bags of green tea from Fujian province to MoMA
in New York, via around 5 other institutions and private homes in China,
UK and USA, which are acting as depots or transit points. Another pack
of tea arrived from India to my flat in Bristol and then toured the Lake
District before passing back through my flat  departing for Heathrow
Airport, where it had touched down from India weeks before, to fly to
New York in someone else's baggage. Both these shipments were actually
super-efficient. The products got delivered to their exact destinations,
they were enjoying not just frictionless but fruitful passage,
hitchhiking on existing travel or at the most diverting their couriers a
couple of blocks, so it's efficiency along completely different lines
than streamlined or containerised cargo. The loops, which occur when an
item passes through the same space twice can actually enhance the
product's value in terms of its CV.

SM: A widespread network of relations, especially among art and business
people, is what makes Feral Trade possible. Yet, your Internet database
mentions the people participating in the project, its essential human
component  (the chain of sender, receiver and courier/s), mostly just by
name. The relations amongst them, or their interests, this key layer of
the  infrastructure, are often left to the intuition and conjecture
based on brief  couriers reports. Could we say that the main focus is
kept on the transiting object and its route? Is there a specific reason
for this, other than perhaps privacy?

KR: Feral Trade is essentially not web 2.0 - it anyway preceded facebook
and I would suggest presents a radically different vision of what real
social networks are like. The database is set up specifically to not
harvest social goods. So if you search for transactions by agent you
could see all shipments that that particular individual has been
involved in, but you would have to then draw your own conclusions. In
some ways it's a cynical database because it encourages the futility of
trying to capture social networks, over and above any notion of
individual privacy.

The focus of the project is actually the load-bearing capacity of the
network - how can it handle materials? - along with an interest in the
agency of things, which effectively hands off subjectivity to the
travelling grocery object. So the product gets the full joined-up
biography, the agency of the couriers comes out through only partial
narratives, chopped up.

SM: Couriers do not necessarily know each other or you directly and
Feral Trade constitutes a chance to become part of a permanently
expanding network.  Whats  interesting though, is the contingent nature
of the network itself.  During their brief meetings, couriers get to
know each other while swapping their  roles, shifting from the receiver
of the object to its giver. Yet, the only thing they have in common
might be exactly the transiting object, positioned in between the two of
them. Are the dynamics of these odd encounters something you are
interested in?

KR: The network is more like permanently drifting than expanding.
Couriers come and go, some take on frequent and huge loads, others are
intermittent, but the network has settled in at its own scale. It flies
in the face of for example facebook's proposition that social networks
can just scale up indefinitely.

I thought about it recently as a normal courier system, like DHL, but
without any actual infrastructure. So no wages, uniforms, fleet,
schedules, forms to fill out (other than the online