Re: coronavirus questions
On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 02:19:33AM -0700, Morlock Elloi wrote: > economy is due to the overreaction of the society. Somehow the ruling > class calculated that it is worthwhile to decimate the economy to delay > deaths by few weeks or months (idiotic statements about the virus getting > tired notwithstanding.) You're not just delaying deaths. You're reducing the overall mortality due to triaging if you're preventing oversubscription of the intensive care capacity from happening. The elites almost everywhere dropped the ball on this, so they failed to prevent the higher mortality and thus resulting disruption to the economy. On the other hand, selective culling of people >65 and those younger with pre-existing medical conditions is going cause very significant savings for the retirement funds, so they might have factored that in. # distributed via : no commercial use without permission #is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject:
Re: nettime In an Internetworked World No One Is Foreign
On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 03:04:02PM +0200, robert adrian wrote: Whenever you get a free offer there is usually a catch somehwere - so when DARPA donated TCP IP free to the world The apple was never poisoned. The principals who invented packet switching and prototyped it were all civilian, academic researchers. The subsequent branching out of the technology into all nooks and crannies of human endeavour is simply because it was so damn useful. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET ... Misconceptions of design goals[edit] Common ARPANET lore posits that the computer network was designed to survive a nuclear attack. In A Brief History of the Internet, the Internet Society describes the coalescing of the technical ideas that produced the ARPANET: It was from the RAND study that the false rumor started, claiming that the ARPANET was somehow related to building a network resistant to nuclear war. This was never true of the ARPANET, only the unrelated RAND study on secure voice considered nuclear war. However, the later work on Internetting did emphasize robustness and survivability, including the capability to withstand losses of large portions of the underlying networks.[12] Although the ARPANET was designed to survive subordinate-network losses, the principal reason was that the switching nodes and network links were unreliable, even without any nuclear attacks. About the resource scarcity that spurred the creation of the ARPANET, Charles Herzfeld, ARPA Director (1965–1967), said: The ARPANET was not started to create a Command and Control System that would survive a nuclear attack, as many now claim. To build such a system was, clearly, a major military need, but it was not ARPA's mission to do this; in fact, we would have been severely criticized had we tried. Rather, the ARPANET came out of our frustration that there were only a limited number of large, powerful research computers in the country, and that many research investigators, who should have access to them, were geographically separated from them.[13] Packet switching pioneer Paul Baran affirms this, explaining: Bob Taylor had a couple of computer terminals speaking to different machines, and his idea was to have some way of having a terminal speak to any of them and have a network. That's really the origin of the ARPANET. The method used to connect things together was an open issue for a time.[14] # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org
Re: nettime dark days
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 09:28:52AM -0700, Morlock Elloi wrote: You mean vigorous typing on the keyboard and determined tweeting aint't it? It seems that interactions with corporate disks (which is what 99% of social computer usage today is) are modern variants of praying. Surveillance networks are just priests in the confessionals. Does a prayer work? If you can compile it, sure. Cypherpunks write code. # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org
Re: nettime F(r)ee, Open (?) and Digital Culture(s) - slogans for selling on the databases age ?
On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 07:55:56PM +0100, jaroslaw lipszyc wrote: Privacy and internet are mutually exclusive. I don't know what internet is, but the Internet is fully compatible with anonymity. See Tor, I2P and darknets in general. # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org
Re: nettime The Monetary Future: How Bitcoin Is Being Destroyed
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 07:22:15PM +0200, John Haltiwanger wrote: On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Nick nett...@njw.me.uk wrote: Interesting read. That said, I would love to read more about the interplay of traditional capitalist power structures and bitcoin. Bitcoin is fundamentally flawed as an emancipatory currency due to it's reliance on processing cycles. When I first heard about it, I eagerly It doesn't rely on processing cycles for maintaining the log of transactions. It needs some processing for the distributed mint, but adaptively so (difficulty goes down if mining rate goes down) and processing cycles are fundamentally egalitarian. downloaded the client to begin mining. With my (relatively, at the time) powerful desktop, it was something like 2 years until I had my first coin. You were late to the party, and by that time you probably needed GPU clients (which will be soon useless, since ASIC miner rigs are ante portas) participation in a mining pool. There are also a limited total number of bitcoins, which from my point of view can only lead to the exact same zero-sum situation we have with state-coerced currencies: if I am going to be rich, it is at the expense of others having the same opportunity. This is a currency based on scarcity, just like gold or cowry shells. If you intended to become rich by mining, you should have been a year or two sooner to the party. The value of bitcoin is ability to do P2P transactions in real time without requiring a third party, using a naturally deflationary monetary system which however is highly frangible. That by itself is of obvious enough utility. # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org
Re: nettime Privacy, Moglen, @ioerror, #rp12
On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 10:45:33PM +0100, Rob Myers wrote: On 05/08/2012 05:52 PM, Morlock Elloi wrote: The curiously absent question is why there should be social media in the first place, and 'media' in general. Lascaux. Notice that memes and image macros is a regression to pictorial signs. # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org
