Re: nettime-l Digest, Vol 176, Issue 11
Hello, Glad to hear that. OK, the sooner the better... only 150 words or less. Best A On Wed, May 4, 2022, at 18:31, nettime-l-requ...@mail.kein.org wrote: > Send nettime-l mailing list submissions to > nettime-l@mail.kein.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nettime-l-requ...@mail.kein.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nettime-l-ow...@mail.kein.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of nettime-l digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >1. Quick notes about the French context (Fr?d?ric Neyrat) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 4 May 2022 12:30:57 -0500 > From: Fr?d?ric Neyrat > To: analoguehori...@gmail.com > Cc: a moderated mailing list for net criticism > , Brian Holmes > Subject: Quick notes about the French context > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > 1) "A left majority": it's a possibility at least, because Macron's party > is not that strong and going through difficult alliances; the Rassemblement > National (Lepen/ far right) might be seen as unable to really challenge > Macronism and for this reason the left alliance might be seen as a real > political alternative: people in the US and elsewhere do not really know, > maybe, how Macron is hated, and for legitimate reasons. > > The political scheme is the following: > - Lepen = fascist State based on neoliberalism; > - Macron = neoliberalism using fascist methods > > M?lanchon might be seen as the only option to avoid the > Macron-Lepen tandem, a tandem that we get stuck with since Pinochet (either > a fascist State based on neoliberalism, > or neoliberalism using fascist methods). > > 2) What is "interesting" in the current situation is that all the > hypocrite people who voted for Macron for the second round of the > French presidential election to "faire barrage ? l'extr?me-droite/to block > the far-right," but who have not done what would have been the only > efficient way to do so during the first round, i.e. having voted for > M?lanchon, are now compelled to acknowledge that they are not leftists any > longer, but rightist. I mean: the fact of the leftist alliance produces a > clarification of the political landscape. > > 3) Does it mean that M?lanchon is my cup of tea? No: he comes from the > Socialist Party, he is still someone who struggles with understanding that > imperialism is not anylonger a US privilege, he said stupid things about > Syria, etc. But I never saw anyone else able to evolve in the good > direction as he did (about feminism for instance, and about ecology). > > 4) An anecdote: on May 19, 2021, a day of infamy, the cops demonstrated in > front of the French National Assembly, against the judicial institution, > accompanied by the Minister of the Interior and the leaders of the > Socialist, Communist, and Europe Ecology-Les Verts parties. The only party > that was not present was the one of M?lanchon. Only for that, glory be to > him. > > FN > > > On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 9:49 AM wrote: > > > What are the odds of a left majority parliament in France? > > > > > > https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/04/french-socialist-party-agrees-alliance-with-far-left-for-june-elections > > > > On Wed, 4 May 2022 at 02:26, Brian Holmes > > wrote: > > > >> That's brilliant Frederic. I have not followed French politics for years > >> and I am glad to hear what you say! > >> Here, maybe I am missing it, but it seems there is no parallel. > >> Tell more about it, what you think are the strong points. > >> > >> On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 3:19 PM Fr?d?ric Neyrat wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> dear Brian, > >>> > >>> "Archaic communism" is certainly a wrong way to speak about M?lanchon: I > >>> mean, it's certainly what Macron thinks, what all the persons who used to > >>> vote for the "Parti Socialiste" (sic) in order to set up a neolibreal > >>> society think, what many former leftists in Multitudes think (some > >>> renegades, to use Badiou's concept), but to call "archaic communist" an > >>> anti-nuclear Party promoting one of the most daring ecological programs > >>> that exists nowadays is weird, to say the least. That being said, there > >>> are > >>> many problems in La France Insoumise, but M?lanchon was able to evolve in > >>> so many good ways that, well, what do you want? And it seems that a > >>> leftist > >>> coalition is possible these days for the next elections. That's not bad I > >>> think. That's something al least. > >>> > >>> In solidarity, > >>> > >>> Fr?d?ric > >>> __ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 3:08 PM Brian Holmes < > >>> bhcontinentaldr...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > I think this debate is totally interesting,
Re: Anne Applebaum
Hello Nettimers
I find it odd that Anne Applebaum's questionable commentary on the events - and
historical references - in Ukraine are uncritically posted here. Anne Applebaum
is a notorious right-wing ideologue of the unquestionable neoliberal persuasion
who has been lauded for her attacks on left-leaning politics (to say the
least). As the conflict in Ukraine becomes increasingly enmeshed in the myopic
politics of the cold-war and as America descends into pre-civil rights post war
policies it becomes increasingly important to consider who is describing
reality and from what vantage point. Most people in the U.S. still believe that
the atomic bomb was used to save the lives of U.S. soldiers and to end WW II. A
very questionable assumption. Saber rattling by Biden and others indebted to
military contractors won't bring democracy to Ukraine or necessarily even peace.
Best
Allan
On Sat, Apr 30, 2022, at 10:34, nettime-l-requ...@mail.kein.org wrote:
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>1. Giorgio Meletti: The generals' optimism vs the lucid fear of
> the ignorants (Domani) (patrice riemens)
>2. Anne Applebaum: (patrice riemens)
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> Subject: Giorgio Meletti: The generals' optimism vs the
> lucid fear of the ignorants (Domani)
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> Aloha,
> Back to my traditional pursuit of Q translations (banned be
> algo/ai-translators ;-) with an op-ed in the Italian quality paper Domani,
> which tells quite well in which phase we have landed in the 'Ukraine crisis':
> a bad one, with worse possibly to come ('le pire n'est jamais certain' is the
> proverb the French console themselves with ...)
> Domani points to mer things which I do not see mentioned very much - but then
> I don't read everything, by far. For instance that weapons send to Ukraine
> might well end up in wrong hands, since there is no control whatsoever on the
> stuff once it has crossed the Ukraine border - and no way 'we' would cross
> ... (for the time being). Some French and Italian ordnance has already been
> traced back to Donbass separatists. Wholesale sympathy and solidarity with
> Ukraine has also overshadowed the fact corruption there has diminished since
> the early 2010s but has - by far - not disappeared. And a crisis always
> provides a golden opportunity for miscreants to ply their trade, as shown by
> fleeing children and single women being targeted by sexual predators and
> human traffickers, who do not appear to be very much hounded down.
> Well, 'enyvej', here's the article (no url, since Domani is pretty well
> paywalled, and I got it in 'analog' format. (for ?1,50)
> - Nuclear Escalation? Optimism of
> the Generals, Lucid Fear of the Ignorants.
> Giorgio Meletti, Domani, April 29, 2022.
>
>
> It would be a grave error to undervalue the impact on popular sentiment of
> the Ramstein Summit on 26 April. On the US largest military basis in Europe,
> in Germany, 43 countries (30 of which NATO members, plus 13 others) have
> decided to increase many times their arms deliveries to Ukraine to help that
> country to fight against Putin. ?We need to move at the speed of the war?,
> said the American minister of defence, Lloyd Austin, behaving as if he was
> conducting an orchestra. The Italian minister of defence, Lorenzo Guerini did
> not stay behind in making promises in the name of the Italian People. After
> Ramstein it becomes difficult to deny that we stand at the cusp of a lengthy,
> wide-ranging, and unpredictable war. Experts are talking in terms of
> ?escalation?, but non-experts are afraid - and they have every reason to
> be.The great majority of European citizens (f/m) with voting rights are not
> able to inform themselves thoroughly about the Ukraine crisis, either because
> they are ignorant
> , or have to work full time, or simply do not want to. Yet to all of them,
> wether informed by the TV news, the car radio or the social media on their
> phones, the news from Ramstein tells them of a dangerous turn and the message
> is being received loud and clear. Their opinion, given that exams in
> geopolitical science are not part of what entitles one to civil rights,
>
