Re: nettime Privacy, Moglen, @ioerror, #rp12 (Lascaux)

2012-05-10 Thread Newmedia
Self-conscious-artists-everywhere:
 
 By now, Lascaux has grown principally into a 
 massive conservation/preservation industry mobilizing 
 vast resources and hundreds of experts, many more 
 than those actually concerned with its artistic content.
 
Lascaux was NOT meant to be art!
 
These are paleolithic, proto-religious paintings made by pre-historic  
humans who were not YET self-conscious. 
 
Human mentality has undergone *multiple* fundamental changes since then and 
 the mental life that produces *art* today would be completely unfathomable 
to  those who made these cave paintings.
 
In fact, ancient Egypt also had no art.  Those objects and  hieroglyphics 
that amaze us are overwhelmingly religious and were not meant to  be 
publicly displayed or enjoyed by an audience at all -- which is why they  
largely come to us from sealed burial chambers.  They were meant for the  
gods 
who were presumed to be walking among us.
 
Rarely are museums honest about these matters.  I once went to an  
exhibit in Israel where the curators went out of their way to make this point 
in  
the catalog and display tags but this seems to be very uncommon.
 
Merlin Donald's 1993 Origins of the Modern Mind: Three Stages in the  
Evolution of Culture and Cognition would be a good place to start to better  
understand these changes.
 
_http://www.amazon.com/Origins-Modern-Mind-Evolution-Cognition/dp/0674644840
/ref=sr_1_1?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1336651426sr=1-1_ 
(http://www.amazon.com/Origins-Modern-Mind-Evolution-Cognition/dp/0674644840/ref=sr_1_1?s=booksie=UT
F8qid=1336651426sr=1-1) 
 
Our confusion about such things is a reflection of how deeply we have  
forgotten the origins of our own culture, under the propaganda effects of  
mass-media, and why the digital renaissance now underway will come as a 
surprise  to so many people.
 
Mark Stahlman
Brooklyn NY


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Re: nettime Privacy, Moglen, @ioerror, #rp12 (Lascaux)

2012-05-10 Thread John Young
Religion is no more credible than art, to describe Lascaux, perhaps
much less so due to its hyper-explanatory application to cultures (also
an aggregatingly suspect term) from a polished view, to gloss raw material
with a narrative rationale likely to appeal to consumers, or best, to funders
of research most responsive to religious attribution especially if slathered
with nationalistic significance. Holy Land, Mecca, Wall Street.

Sanctification of cultural sites world monuments is no different than
cathedralization nor museumification nor illusory non-proliferation of WMD.
And glorification and disparagement of these preenings is a given, verily
red-neckish, Marxian, atheistic aesthetic of duplicity.

Yet nations promote chauvinistic tourism as a leading industry right up there
with faith-based lotteries, voting, and, pathetically, higher 
education's critical
thinking of fey jadism of the cloud mind. Internet monumentalism joining
millions of minions ant-hiving at mouse, keyboard, and network as if
constructing a pyramid, each ant nudging a blip of quartz up the pile.

Look back from ahead, ah, yes, the Lascaux syndrome favoring the
imaginary past to avoid anxiety of what's now, fear of what's coming.

Nobody venerates the comforting past like the aged.



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Re: nettime Privacy, Moglen, @ioerror, #rp12 (Lascaux)

2012-05-09 Thread Patrice Riemens
 Lascaux is far from being low cost/free and with global reach, which I had
 in mind.

 Show me someone who contributes to 'social media' today with an eye on
 recognition 10,000 years from now. Which is what transpired in Lascaux -
 the style did not change for thousands of years, and very few saw the
 stuff during lifetimes of authors.

 Lascaux.

By now, Lascaux has grown principarily into a massive conservation/
preservation industry mobilizing vast resources and hundreds of experts,
many more than those actually concerned with its artistic content. Maybe
that is an apt metaphor for the (future of the) ('new') media ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lascaux



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