Re: Bugs everywhere!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jon Nettleton wrote: > On Mon, 2007-04-16 at 00:54 +0100, Richie Ward wrote: >> Is this thing under heavy development? >> >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/ >> >> Theres a huge list of bugs for this thing. The one that annoys me the >> most is one of mine: >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/106874 >> > > Is anyone else getting irritated by irate Ubuntu users posting to lists > referencing all these bugs that nobody but Ubuntu users have any idea > about? I know that Ubuntu loves their launchpad, but I don't use it, > and I don't want to use it. Where are the Ubuntu people pushing this > stuff upstream? > > I mean no offense to Ubuntu users. I am just concerned that more and > more they want their community to be the only community, and not just a > part of the greater "linux/open source" community. > > Maybe I have just been debugging too many Ubuntu only bugs this weekend. I think they very likely have a tough job to do (I'm assuming you're talking about developers, not users). The "Ubuntu People" have to deal with a disproportionate amount of bugs that are not bugs from a population of people who do not RTFM whatsoever, so they are probably backlogged. As for users not reporting bugs, it's somewhat tough to decide whether a bug is a Ubuntu bug or not. I have bad USB problems with kernel 2.6.20, for example -- I'm really not sure WHO is responsible for that problem, and I guess the only way to find out is build a vanilla kernel that's compiled the way they have it. - -- _ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ |Y#| | | |\/| | \ |\ | | |Ryan Novosielski - Systems Programmer III |$&| |__| | | |__/ | \| _| |[EMAIL PROTECTED] - 973/972.0922 (2-0922) \__/ Univ. of Med. and Dent.|IST/AST - NJMS Medical Science Bldg - C630 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGIuERmb+gadEcsb4RAtnFAKCvyf6yC9ZBSsdTDpi+kKAABlh7CgCeNHA3 Je4k7IzNa+C8j93D6lJnG0A= =5peV -END PGP SIGNATURE- begin:vcard fn:Ryan Novosielski n:Novosielski;Ryan org:UMDNJ;IST/AST adr;dom:MSB C630;;185 South Orange Avenue;Newark;NJ;07103 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Systems Programmer III tel;work:(973) 972-0922 tel;fax:(973) 972-7412 tel;pager:(866) 20-UMDNJ x-mozilla-html:FALSE version:2.1 end:vcard ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: Bugs everywhere!
So I am going to have to talk to the developers of the 2x00 project.. I will see what they say :-) On 4/16/07, Dan Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2007-04-16 at 00:54 +0100, Richie Ward wrote: > > Is this thing under heavy development? > > It's complex; the sources of bugs are normally interactions between > NetworkManager and the drivers. Driver quality and consistency has been > steadily improving over the past 2 years or so, but it's the best it > could be. > > > > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/ > > > > Theres a huge list of bugs for this thing. The one that annoys me the > > most is one of mine: > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/106874 > > That's a driver problem. I can't control what drivers, and what > _quality_ of drivers, Ubuntu puts in their kernel. The rt2500 driver > apparently doesn't support WE-19 and above, which is the standard Linux > method of configuring a card to support WPA. > > You'll note the use iwpriv commands in that bug report. If every driver > used iwpriv commands, there would be 30 different ways to configure a > card. That's just insane. So NetworkManager requires that a driver > support WE-19 and above to use WPA. In any case, that's the requirement > to show WPA support in the GUI. > > To connect successfully with WPA, the driver needs to work with > wpa_supplicant and the wpa_supplicant WEXT driver. That means, of > course, that the driver again must support WE-19 and above for WPA. > wpa_supplicant is the standard Linux WPA supplicant. > > Dan > > > -- Thanks, Richie Ward ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: Bugs everywhere!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Richie Ward wrote: > Is this thing under heavy development? It in fact _is_. Your list includes all the Feisty Fawn bugs, which is still in beta. Most of these bugs are not nm bugs but kernel issues that haven't been triaged properly yet. - -- Paul Betts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGIsOJLaH6prIfSccRAsWRAJ4liqMjIhlbPeDyJzhRD14cSoEGPgCeNMjF yvcGUZBATej4j76vv0m//AQ= =Mioe -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: Bugs everywhere!
On Mon, 2007-04-16 at 00:54 +0100, Richie Ward wrote: > Is this thing under heavy development? It's complex; the sources of bugs are normally interactions between NetworkManager and the drivers. Driver quality and consistency has been steadily improving over the past 2 years or so, but it's the best it could be. > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/ > > Theres a huge list of bugs for this thing. The one that annoys me the > most is one of mine: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/106874 That's a driver problem. I can't control what drivers, and what _quality_ of drivers, Ubuntu puts in their kernel. The rt2500 driver apparently doesn't support WE-19 and above, which is the standard Linux method of configuring a card to support WPA. You'll note the use iwpriv commands in that bug report. If every driver used iwpriv commands, there would be 30 different ways to configure a card. That's just insane. So NetworkManager requires that a driver support WE-19 and above to use WPA. In any case, that's the requirement to show WPA support in the GUI. To connect successfully with WPA, the driver needs to work with wpa_supplicant and the wpa_supplicant WEXT driver. That means, of course, that the driver again must support WE-19 and above for WPA. wpa_supplicant is the standard Linux WPA supplicant. Dan ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: Bugs everywhere!
On Mon, 2007-04-16 at 00:54 +0100, Richie Ward wrote: > Is this thing under heavy development? > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/ > > Theres a huge list of bugs for this thing. The one that annoys me the > most is one of mine: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/106874 > Is anyone else getting irritated by irate Ubuntu users posting to lists referencing all these bugs that nobody but Ubuntu users have any idea about? I know that Ubuntu loves their launchpad, but I don't use it, and I don't want to use it. Where are the Ubuntu people pushing this stuff upstream? I mean no offense to Ubuntu users. I am just concerned that more and more they want their community to be the only community, and not just a part of the greater "linux/open source" community. Maybe I have just been debugging too many Ubuntu only bugs this weekend. Jon ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Bugs everywhere!
Is this thing under heavy development? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/ Theres a huge list of bugs for this thing. The one that annoys me the most is one of mine: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/106874 -- Thanks, Richie Ward ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: try icon is missing
DJA suggested you use KNetworkManager, if you're running KDE. If neither of these are found, that's why it's not working. Furthermore, please keep all replies on-list; do not reply to me individually: use the 'reply to all' function in your mail client. - Patrick Bogen On 4/15/07, Dante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Patrick Bogen escribió: > > On 4/15/07, Ritesh Khadgaray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Sun, 2007-04-15 at 10:36 -0500, Dante wrote: > >> > hi i use fedora core 6 and ipw3945 driver for an intel wireless card, > >> > when typing nm-tools it can see my card and in fact see wireless > >> > networks so networkmanager is working but i dont see the tray icon > >> so i > > > > Have you tried running nm-applet? > > > it says command not found as root or as any user, ive tried too > NetworkManagerInfo and the same > -- - Patrick Bogen ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: try icon is missing
On 4/15/07, Ritesh Khadgaray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 2007-04-15 at 10:36 -0500, Dante wrote: > > hi i use fedora core 6 and ipw3945 driver for an intel wireless card, > > when typing nm-tools it can see my card and in fact see wireless > > networks so networkmanager is working but i dont see the tray icon so i Have you tried running nm-applet? -- - Patrick Bogen ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: try icon is missing
heya, On Sun, 2007-04-15 at 10:36 -0500, Dante wrote: > hi i use fedora core 6 and ipw3945 driver for an intel wireless card, > when typing nm-tools it can see my card and in fact see wireless > networks so networkmanager is working but i dont see the tray icon so i Was nm working before this ? > cant connect to any network any ideas? Is NetworkManager and NetworkManagerDispatcher service running on system ? Is messagebus service running on system ? ps : is this just me, or was this is a duplicate mail ? > ___ > NetworkManager-list mailing list > NetworkManager-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list -- Ritesh Khadgaray ॐ मणि पद्मे हूँ LinuX N Stuff Ph: +919970164885 Eat Right, Exercise, Die Anyway. ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
try icon is missing
hi i use fedora core 6 and ipw3945 driver for an intel wireless card, when typing nm-tools it can see my card and in fact see wireless networks so networkmanager is working but i dont see the tray icon so i cant connect to any network any ideas? ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
try icon is not present
hi i use fedora core 6 and ipw3945 driver for an intel wireless card, when typing nm-tools it can see my card and in fact see wireless networks so networkmanager is working but i dont see the tray icon so i cant connect to any network any ideas? __ Correo Yahoo! Espacio para todos tus mensajes, antivirus y antispam ¡gratis! Regístrate ya - http://correo.yahoo.com.mx/ ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
nm-openswan dev update - debugging properties library help needed
Hi all, Just thought I should post a quick update, and post a request for help at the same time. I'm almost at 0.1a code level. I have several major bugs to fix before I reach that milestone, but once reached, that will be first release. NM Registers my new DBUS path for the openswan service on startup and the nm-openswan-service handler appears to be stable (finally). My first and biggest problem has to do with debugging shared libraries with Anjuta/gdb: How do you do it? I wrote my library to implement the UI to configure a connection, but even though it builds no problem, it won't load for some reason... The situation is this: when nm-vpn-properties loads, it parses my service file (from /etc/NetworkManager/VPN) and then tries to load /usr/local/lib/libnm-os-properties.so but I get this nm_warning output: Cannot open module '/usr/local/lib/libnm-os-properties' --> yes I checked for type-o's and spelling mistakes ;) --> I ran 'strace nm-vpn-properties' to find out what's failing, and it does find the library and opens it succesfully: brk(0x9599000) = 0x9599000 open("/etc/NetworkManager/VPN/nm-openswan-service.name", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 14 fstat64(14, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=220, ...}) = 0 read(14, "[VPN Connection]\nname=openswan\ns"..., 4096) = 220 read(14, "", 4096) = 0 close(14) = 0 stat64("/usr/local/lib/libnm-os-properties", 0xbfe45d4c) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) stat64("/usr/local/lib/libnm-os-properties.so", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=84578, ...}) = 0 open("/usr/local/lib/libnm-os-properties.so", O_RDONLY) = 14 read(14, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\340 \0"..., 512) = 512 fstat64(14, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=84578, ...}) = 0 mmap2(NULL, 29652, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 14, 0) = 0x4f6000 mmap2(0x4fd000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 14, 0x7) = 0x4fd000 ^-> here's the problem I think... but that's as close as I can get. My instincts tell me this is a memory allocation error where I'm not initializing or declaring some var before I use it... but that would come back to being able to debug my shared lib. The mapped memory addresses seem kinda small to me compared with those of the openvpn and vpnc shared libs loaded in the same stack trace. Here's the rest of the relevant trace: close(14) = 0 mprotect(0x4f6000, 28672, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE) = 0 munmap(0x4f6000, 29652) = 0 write(2, "\n** (nm-vpn-properties:7763): WA"..., 98 ** (nm-vpn-properties:7763): WARNING **: Cannot open module '/usr/local/lib/libnm-os-properties' ) = 98 So how can I debug my shared-lib and figure out why it's failing to load? All help appreciated as I've been banging my head against the key-board for days (soon time for a new one). I've got everything else for basic functionality coded, building and installing fine, but until I can define a connection, testing cannot proceed. If anyone has any suggestions, please send them asap before I go crazy with this one ;) Thanks, Steve. ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list