Re: Bugs everywhere!

2007-04-15 Thread Ryan Novosielski
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Jon Nettleton wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-04-16 at 00:54 +0100, Richie Ward wrote:
>> Is this thing under heavy development?
>>
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/
>>
>> Theres a huge list of bugs for this thing. The one that annoys me the
>> most is one of mine:
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/106874
>>
> 
> Is anyone else getting irritated by irate Ubuntu users posting to lists
> referencing all these bugs that nobody but Ubuntu users have any idea
> about?  I know that Ubuntu loves their launchpad, but I don't use it,
> and I don't want to use it.  Where are the Ubuntu people pushing this
> stuff upstream?  
> 
> I mean no offense to Ubuntu users.  I am just concerned that more and
> more they want their community to be the only community, and not just a
> part of the greater "linux/open source" community.
> 
> Maybe I have just been debugging too many Ubuntu only bugs this weekend.

I think they very likely have a tough job to do (I'm assuming you're
talking about developers, not users). The "Ubuntu People" have to deal
with a disproportionate amount of bugs that are not bugs from a
population of people who do not RTFM whatsoever, so they are probably
backlogged. As for users not reporting bugs, it's somewhat tough to
decide whether a bug is a Ubuntu bug or not. I have bad USB problems
with kernel 2.6.20, for example -- I'm really not sure WHO is
responsible for that problem, and I guess the only way to find out is
build a vanilla kernel that's compiled the way they have it.

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Re: Bugs everywhere!

2007-04-15 Thread Richie Ward
So I am going to have to talk to the developers of the 2x00 project..
I will see what they say :-)

On 4/16/07, Dan Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-04-16 at 00:54 +0100, Richie Ward wrote:
> > Is this thing under heavy development?
>
> It's complex; the sources of bugs are normally interactions between
> NetworkManager and the drivers.  Driver quality and consistency has been
> steadily improving over the past 2 years or so, but it's the best it
> could be.
>
> >
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/
> >
> > Theres a huge list of bugs for this thing. The one that annoys me the
> > most is one of mine:
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/106874
>
> That's a driver problem.  I can't control what drivers, and what
> _quality_ of drivers, Ubuntu puts in their kernel.  The rt2500 driver
> apparently doesn't support WE-19 and above, which is the standard Linux
> method of configuring a card to support WPA.
>
> You'll note the use iwpriv commands in that bug report.  If every driver
> used iwpriv commands, there would be 30 different ways to configure a
> card.  That's just insane.  So NetworkManager requires that a driver
> support WE-19 and above to use WPA.  In any case, that's the requirement
> to show WPA support in the GUI.
>
> To connect successfully with WPA, the driver needs to work with
> wpa_supplicant and the wpa_supplicant WEXT driver.  That means, of
> course, that the driver again must support WE-19 and above for WPA.
> wpa_supplicant is the standard Linux WPA supplicant.
>
> Dan
>
>
>


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Re: Bugs everywhere!

2007-04-15 Thread Paul Betts
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Richie Ward wrote:
> Is this thing under heavy development?

It in fact _is_. Your list includes all the Feisty Fawn bugs, which is
still in beta. Most of these bugs are not nm bugs but kernel issues that
haven't been triaged properly yet.

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Re: Bugs everywhere!

2007-04-15 Thread Dan Williams
On Mon, 2007-04-16 at 00:54 +0100, Richie Ward wrote:
> Is this thing under heavy development?

It's complex; the sources of bugs are normally interactions between
NetworkManager and the drivers.  Driver quality and consistency has been
steadily improving over the past 2 years or so, but it's the best it
could be.

> 
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/
> 
> Theres a huge list of bugs for this thing. The one that annoys me the
> most is one of mine:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/106874

That's a driver problem.  I can't control what drivers, and what
_quality_ of drivers, Ubuntu puts in their kernel.  The rt2500 driver
apparently doesn't support WE-19 and above, which is the standard Linux
method of configuring a card to support WPA.

You'll note the use iwpriv commands in that bug report.  If every driver
used iwpriv commands, there would be 30 different ways to configure a
card.  That's just insane.  So NetworkManager requires that a driver
support WE-19 and above to use WPA.  In any case, that's the requirement
to show WPA support in the GUI.

To connect successfully with WPA, the driver needs to work with
wpa_supplicant and the wpa_supplicant WEXT driver.  That means, of
course, that the driver again must support WE-19 and above for WPA.
wpa_supplicant is the standard Linux WPA supplicant.

Dan


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Re: Bugs everywhere!

2007-04-15 Thread Jon Nettleton
On Mon, 2007-04-16 at 00:54 +0100, Richie Ward wrote:
> Is this thing under heavy development?
> 
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/
> 
> Theres a huge list of bugs for this thing. The one that annoys me the
> most is one of mine:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/106874
> 

Is anyone else getting irritated by irate Ubuntu users posting to lists
referencing all these bugs that nobody but Ubuntu users have any idea
about?  I know that Ubuntu loves their launchpad, but I don't use it,
and I don't want to use it.  Where are the Ubuntu people pushing this
stuff upstream?  

I mean no offense to Ubuntu users.  I am just concerned that more and
more they want their community to be the only community, and not just a
part of the greater "linux/open source" community.

Maybe I have just been debugging too many Ubuntu only bugs this weekend.

Jon

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Bugs everywhere!

2007-04-15 Thread Richie Ward
Is this thing under heavy development?

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/

Theres a huge list of bugs for this thing. The one that annoys me the
most is one of mine:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/106874

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Re: try icon is missing

2007-04-15 Thread Patrick Bogen
DJA suggested you use KNetworkManager, if you're running KDE.
If neither of these are found, that's why it's not working.

Furthermore, please keep all replies on-list; do not reply to me
individually: use the 'reply to all' function in your mail client.

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On 4/15/07, Dante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Patrick Bogen escribió:
> > On 4/15/07, Ritesh Khadgaray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> On Sun, 2007-04-15 at 10:36 -0500, Dante wrote:
> >> > hi i use fedora core 6 and ipw3945 driver for an intel wireless card,
> >> > when typing nm-tools it can see my card and in fact see wireless
> >> > networks so networkmanager is working but i dont see the tray icon
> >> so i
> >
> > Have you tried running nm-applet?
> >
> it says command not found as root or as any user, ive tried too
> NetworkManagerInfo and the same
>


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Re: try icon is missing

2007-04-15 Thread Patrick Bogen
On 4/15/07, Ritesh Khadgaray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 2007-04-15 at 10:36 -0500, Dante wrote:
> > hi i use fedora core 6 and ipw3945 driver for an intel wireless card,
> > when typing nm-tools it can see my card and in fact see wireless
> > networks so networkmanager is working but i dont see the tray icon so i

Have you tried running nm-applet?

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Re: try icon is missing

2007-04-15 Thread Ritesh Khadgaray
heya,

On Sun, 2007-04-15 at 10:36 -0500, Dante wrote:
> hi i use fedora core 6 and ipw3945 driver for an intel wireless card, 
> when typing nm-tools it can see my card and in fact see wireless 
> networks so networkmanager is working but i dont see the tray icon so i 
Was nm working before this ?

> cant connect to any network any ideas?

Is NetworkManager and NetworkManagerDispatcher service running on
system ?

Is messagebus service running on system ?


ps : is this just me, or was this is a duplicate mail ?


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try icon is missing

2007-04-15 Thread Dante
hi i use fedora core 6 and ipw3945 driver for an intel wireless card, 
when typing nm-tools it can see my card and in fact see wireless 
networks so networkmanager is working but i dont see the tray icon so i 
cant connect to any network any ideas?
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try icon is not present

2007-04-15 Thread Dante
hi i use fedora core 6 and ipw3945 driver for an intel wireless card, 
when typing nm-tools it can see my card and in fact see wireless 
networks so networkmanager is working but i dont see the tray icon so i 
cant connect to any network any ideas?
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nm-openswan dev update - debugging properties library help needed

2007-04-15 Thread steve
Hi all,

Just thought I should post a quick update, and post a request for help 
at the same time.

I'm almost at 0.1a code level. I have several major bugs to fix before I 
reach that milestone, but once reached, that will be first release.

NM Registers my new DBUS path for the openswan service on startup and 
the nm-openswan-service handler appears to be stable (finally).

My first and biggest problem has to do with debugging shared libraries 
with Anjuta/gdb: How do you do it?

I wrote my library to implement the UI to configure a connection, but 
even though it builds no problem, it won't load for some reason...

The situation is this: when nm-vpn-properties loads, it parses my 
service file (from /etc/NetworkManager/VPN) and
then tries to load /usr/local/lib/libnm-os-properties.so

but I get this nm_warning output:
Cannot open module '/usr/local/lib/libnm-os-properties'

--> yes I checked for type-o's and spelling mistakes ;)

--> I ran 'strace nm-vpn-properties' to find out what's failing, and it 
does find the library and opens it succesfully:

brk(0x9599000)  = 0x9599000
open("/etc/NetworkManager/VPN/nm-openswan-service.name", 
O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 14
fstat64(14, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=220, ...}) = 0
read(14, "[VPN Connection]\nname=openswan\ns"..., 4096) = 220
read(14, "", 4096)  = 0
close(14)   = 0
stat64("/usr/local/lib/libnm-os-properties", 0xbfe45d4c) = -1 ENOENT (No 
such file or directory)
stat64("/usr/local/lib/libnm-os-properties.so", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, 
st_size=84578, ...}) = 0
open("/usr/local/lib/libnm-os-properties.so", O_RDONLY) = 14
read(14, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\340 \0"..., 
512) = 512
fstat64(14, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=84578, ...}) = 0

mmap2(NULL, 29652, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 14, 
0) = 0x4f6000
mmap2(0x4fd000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 14, 0x7) = 0x4fd000

^-> here's the problem I think... but that's as close as I can get.

My instincts tell me this is a memory allocation error where I'm not 
initializing or declaring some var before I use it... but that would 
come back to being able to debug my shared lib.

The mapped memory addresses seem kinda small to me compared with those 
of the openvpn and vpnc shared libs loaded in the same stack trace. 
Here's the rest of the relevant trace:

close(14)   = 0
mprotect(0x4f6000, 28672, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE) = 0
munmap(0x4f6000, 29652) = 0
write(2, "\n** (nm-vpn-properties:7763): WA"..., 98
** (nm-vpn-properties:7763): WARNING **: Cannot open module 
'/usr/local/lib/libnm-os-properties'
) = 98

So how can I debug my shared-lib and figure out why it's failing to load?

All help appreciated as I've been banging my head against the key-board 
for days (soon time for a new one).

I've got everything else for basic functionality coded, building and 
installing fine, but until I can define a connection, testing cannot 
proceed.

If anyone has any suggestions, please send them asap before I go crazy 
with this one ;)

Thanks,

Steve.


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