Re: Help on wireless network connectivity

2008-08-14 Thread Ravi
Thanks a lot , I could able to connect internet now.

Regards,
ravi

Larry Finger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ravi wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> I have installed fedora 9 on my laptop recently and I wanted to enable 
> WiFi using Network manager.
> Lan interface : Broadcom 802.11a/b/g WLAN
>  
> Please help me how can I get this done.

Please tell us more. From a terminal, issue the command '/sbin/lspci 
-nnv', find the first two lines of the output that describe your 
wireless, and post them. Note: I'm not certain that lspci is in /sbin. 
If you get a "command not found", become root and issue the command 
'lspci -nnv'.

Second, issue the command 'dmesg | grep b43' and post the results.

Larry



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Re: Help on wireless network connectivity

2008-08-14 Thread Ravi
Hi Larry,
   
Output of lspci looks as below:
  00:00.0 RAM memory [0500]: nVidia Corporation MCP67 Memory Controller 
[10de:0547] (rev a2)
  Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Unknown device [103c:30cf]
  Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0
  Capabilities: 
  And the output of dmesg as below:
   
  firmware (version 4).
  b43-phy0: Broadcom 4311 WLAN found
  b43-phy0 debug: Found PHY: Analog 4, Type 2, Revision 9
  b43-phy0 debug: Found Radio: Manuf 0x17F, Version 0x2050, Revision 2
  input: b43-phy0 as /devices/virtual/input/input10
  b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file "b43/ucode13.fw" not found or load failed.
  b43-phy0 ERROR: You must go to 
http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware and download the 
latest 
   
  May be i am not having right devicefirmware to support.I am trying to 
download firmware.
   
  thanks a lot
   
  regards,
  Ravi
  

Larry Finger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Ravi wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have installed fedora 9 on my laptop recently and I wanted to enable 
> WiFi using Network manager.
> Lan interface : Broadcom 802.11a/b/g WLAN
> 
> Please help me how can I get this done.

Please tell us more. From a terminal, issue the command '/sbin/lspci 
-nnv', find the first two lines of the output that describe your 
wireless, and post them. Note: I'm not certain that lspci is in /sbin. 
If you get a "command not found", become root and issue the command 
'lspci -nnv'.

Second, issue the command 'dmesg | grep b43' and post the results.

Larry



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Re: Help on wireless network connectivity

2008-08-14 Thread Larry Finger

Ravi wrote:

Hi,
 
I have installed fedora 9 on my laptop recently and I wanted to enable 
WiFi using Network manager.

Lan interface : Broadcom 802.11a/b/g WLAN
 
Please help me how can I get this done.


Please tell us more. From a terminal, issue the command '/sbin/lspci 
-nnv', find the first two lines of the output that describe your 
wireless, and post them. Note: I'm not certain that lspci is in /sbin. 
If you get a "command not found", become root and issue the command 
'lspci -nnv'.


Second, issue the command 'dmesg | grep b43' and post the results.

Larry

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Help on wireless network connectivity

2008-08-14 Thread Ravi
Hi,
   
  I have installed fedora 9 on my laptop recently and I wanted to enable WiFi 
using Network manager.
  Lan interface : Broadcom 802.11a/b/g WLAN
   
  Please help me how can I get this done.
   
  thanks,
  Ravi

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Re: Network Manager and NFS

2008-08-14 Thread The Holy ettlz
On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 11:29 -0700, Robert Smits wrote:
> > I think what you're asking for is called Network Location Awareness ---
> > how an interface distinguishes to which network it is attached, and then
> > the machine configures itself as appropriate. I think there a few
> > implementations of this [standards, anybody?] but personally I like this
> > one: authenticated DHCP, since it should also work securely for plain
> > old wired Ethernet.
> 
> Will that also work with fixed IP addresses?

Not unless said addresses are dished out by the DHCP server from its own
fixed database. Otherwise, one would have to resort to something more
exotic to determine the network, or do it manually.

> From my point of view, SCMP already works, but I can't use it together with 
> Network Manager. Can we either configure Network Manager to work with SCMP or 
> SCMP to work with Network Manager? I don't know which route is more feasible, 
> largely because I don't understand from a technical viewpoint why the 
> programs  don't play nicely together. Is there a solution here that's easier 
> than re-inventing the wheel?

The "best" solution is probably a dbus-aware module for SCMP that
listens for changes announced by NM, and reacts accordingly. This is
something you might wish to discuss with the SCMP developers.

James

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Re: Network Manager and NFS

2008-08-14 Thread Dan Williams
On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 11:29 -0700, Robert Smits wrote:
> On August 13, 2008 03:30:21 pm The Holy ettlz wrote:
> > On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 14:37 -0700, Robert Smits wrote:
> > > My workaround, which isn't entirely satisfactory, is to use ifup and
> > > dispense with network manager altogether. Unfortunately, that doesn't
> > > allow me to see other possible network connections and make quick and
> > > easy connections when I'm on the road.
> > >
> > > What I still don't understand, though, is why Network Manager isn't
> > > configured to deal with managing changing nfs networks.
> >
> > I think what you're asking for is called Network Location Awareness ---
> > how an interface distinguishes to which network it is attached, and then
> > the machine configures itself as appropriate. I think there a few
> > implementations of this [standards, anybody?] but personally I like this
> > one: authenticated DHCP, since it should also work securely for plain
> > old wired Ethernet.
> 
> Will that also work with fixed IP addresses?
> 
> From my point of view, SCMP already works, but I can't use it together with 
> Network Manager. Can we either configure Network Manager to work with SCMP or 
> SCMP to work with Network Manager? I don't know which route is more feasible, 
> largely because I don't understand from a technical viewpoint why the 
> programs  don't play nicely together. Is there a solution here that's easier 
> than re-inventing the wheel?

You'd use the currently connected network as _input_ to scpm to get it
to change the current profile, if I understand scpm correctly.  When NM
connects to a known network, then you can poke scpm to update your scpm
"profile" to the one you want for that specific network.  You could do
this based on the SSID of the wifi network (and the AP's security
options too, hopefully) or the MAC address of the DHCP server obtained
via ARP or something like that.

How do you change scpm profiles now?  Manually?

Dan

> > http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~sjm217/papers/securecomm07authdhcp.pdf
> >
> > I've got a bit of time on my hands, I might code up my earlier HTTPS
> > idea.
> >
> > There's a whole bunch of things you can hook into changes in network
> > such as iptables, service daemons, etc., and of course NFS mounts. But
> > before that the relevant NLA infrastructure needs to be in place. This
> > means having (1) a mechanism to identify the network, and (2) telling
> > other processes (such as other config daemons) that we're on that
> > network. It should be up to the latter what action we take. NM already
> > has "network link awareness", viz. Pidgin and Evolution. Am I right in
> > thinking that the replacement for init is also dbus-aware?
> >
> > Of course, all this takes time ...and planning ;)
> 
> Yes, it does. And thanks for thinking about the issue. I appreciate it. 
> 
> 

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Re: [Suggestion] Specify additional DHCP options?

2008-08-14 Thread Dan Williams
On Thu, 2008-08-14 at 09:23 +0100, The Holy ettlz wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Just trying out NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.11.svn3930.fc8 from Koji.
> send-hostname seems to be working great --- nice.
> 
> You know, it might be useful (in the future) if there were a way to
> specify extra DHCP options via the GUI (or system settings?) to retrieve
> from the server, and expose them in the usual manner.

Maybe; but we do want to draw a line somewhere between overloading the
GUI with options and dropping to a text editor.  You can actually put
the options you'd like into /etc/dhclient-.conf and NM
should merge them into the dhclient config it uses when bringing up the
device.  Granted, it might be nice to have different options on a
per-connection basis though.

Dan


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Re: Network Manager and NFS

2008-08-14 Thread Robert Smits
On August 13, 2008 03:30:21 pm The Holy ettlz wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 14:37 -0700, Robert Smits wrote:
> > My workaround, which isn't entirely satisfactory, is to use ifup and
> > dispense with network manager altogether. Unfortunately, that doesn't
> > allow me to see other possible network connections and make quick and
> > easy connections when I'm on the road.
> >
> > What I still don't understand, though, is why Network Manager isn't
> > configured to deal with managing changing nfs networks.
>
> I think what you're asking for is called Network Location Awareness ---
> how an interface distinguishes to which network it is attached, and then
> the machine configures itself as appropriate. I think there a few
> implementations of this [standards, anybody?] but personally I like this
> one: authenticated DHCP, since it should also work securely for plain
> old wired Ethernet.

Will that also work with fixed IP addresses?

>From my point of view, SCMP already works, but I can't use it together with 
Network Manager. Can we either configure Network Manager to work with SCMP or 
SCMP to work with Network Manager? I don't know which route is more feasible, 
largely because I don't understand from a technical viewpoint why the 
programs  don't play nicely together. Is there a solution here that's easier 
than re-inventing the wheel?

> http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~sjm217/papers/securecomm07authdhcp.pdf
>
> I've got a bit of time on my hands, I might code up my earlier HTTPS
> idea.
>
> There's a whole bunch of things you can hook into changes in network
> such as iptables, service daemons, etc., and of course NFS mounts. But
> before that the relevant NLA infrastructure needs to be in place. This
> means having (1) a mechanism to identify the network, and (2) telling
> other processes (such as other config daemons) that we're on that
> network. It should be up to the latter what action we take. NM already
> has "network link awareness", viz. Pidgin and Evolution. Am I right in
> thinking that the replacement for init is also dbus-aware?
>
> Of course, all this takes time ...and planning ;)

Yes, it does. And thanks for thinking about the issue. I appreciate it. 


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[Suggestion] Specify additional DHCP options?

2008-08-14 Thread The Holy ettlz
Hello,

Just trying out NetworkManager-0.7.0-0.11.svn3930.fc8 from Koji.
send-hostname seems to be working great --- nice.

You know, it might be useful (in the future) if there were a way to
specify extra DHCP options via the GUI (or system settings?) to retrieve
from the server, and expose them in the usual manner.

Regards,
James.

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