Re: Sierra Modem Problem

2009-03-11 Thread Dan Williams
On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 19:54 -0700, Josefa Molina wrote:
  
 Hi, 
  
 I am having this problem and would like to know what exact text change
 is needed so that I can add it to the file. Also, I've seen this fix
 list the location of the file in etc/hal/fdi/information/modems.fdi
 vs /usr/share/hal/fdi/information/10freedesktop/. Which is correct? 

Only /usr/share/hal/fdi/information/10freedesktop is the official
location provided by the upstream hal-info project.  Not sure what is
creating the other location.

In the file you'll see a section for Sierra devices.  Look for the
section starting with !-- Sierra Wireless --.  In that section,
you'll see one block for GSM devices, and one block for CDMA devices.
Add your modem's product ID to the end of the list in the right
section for your modem.  The product ID can be found as the
hexadecimal number after the colon in the output of 'lsusb' for your
modem:

Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
 product ID

Dan

 Thanks.
 
 Message: 4
 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:08:11 -0700
 From: Chetan Karia chetanka...@gmail.com
 Subject: Supporting new Sierra CDMA modems.
 To: networkmanager-list@gnome.org
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 Hi,
 
 I am an employee of Sierra wireless USA. I was testing network manager
 on Ubuntu 8.10. I found that all Sierra  CDMA modems worked well with
 network manager except our two new products which were not detected by
 Network Manager. On investigating further I discovered its just matter
 of adding the Vendor ID and Product ID of our new devices to the file
 10-modem.fdi  under the directory
 /usr/share/hal/fdi/information/10freedesktop/. Once I edit this file
 and add the VID/PID's the Network Manager detects the devices and
 connects to CDMA network. I wanted to know the procedure to officially
 add the VID/PID's of new Sierra device to 10-modem.fdi file, so that I
 do not have to edit it manually.
 
 Your help will be much appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 Chetan
 
 
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 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:12:38 +0100
 From: Rapha?l Jacquot sxp...@sxpert.org
 Subject: Re: Supporting new Sierra CDMA modems.
 To: networkmanager-l...@gnome..org
 Message-ID: 20090310171238.gf11...@sxpert.org
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 
 On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 10:08:11AM -0700, Chetan Karia wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I am an employee of Sierra wireless USA. I was testing network
 manager
  on Ubuntu 8.10. I found that all Sierra  CDMA modems worked well
 with
  network manager except our two new products which were not detected
 by
  Network Manager. On investigating further I discovered its just
 matter
  of adding the Vendor ID and Product ID of our new devices to the
 file
  10-modem.fdi  under the directory
  /usr/share/hal/fdi/information/10freedesktop/. Once I edit this
 file
  and add the VID/PID's the Network Manager detects the devices and
  connects to CDMA network. I wanted to know the procedure to
 officially
  add the VID/PID's of new Sierra device to 10-modem..fdi file, so
 that I
  do not have to edit it manually.
  
  Your help will be much appreciated.
 
 you should contact the Udev people
 
 linux-hotp...@vger.kernel.org
 
  Thanks,
  Chetan
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 Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:50:37 +0100
 From: Alexander Sack a...@ubuntu.com
 Subject: Re: Supporting new Sierra CDMA modems.
 To: Chetan Karia chetanka...@gmail.com
 Cc: networkmanager-list@gnome.org
 Message-ID: 20090310175037.gh29...@jwsdot.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 
 Hi,
 
 On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 10:08:11AM -0700, Chetan Karia wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I am an employee of Sierra wireless USA. I was testing network
 manager
  on Ubuntu 8.10. I found that all Sierra  CDMA modems worked well
 with
  network manager except our two new products which were not detected
 by
  Network Manager. On investigating further I discovered its just
 matter
  of adding the Vendor ID and Product ID of our new devices to the
 file
  10-modem.fdi  under the directory
  /usr/share/hal/fdi/information/10freedesktop/. Once I edit this
 file
  and add the VID/PID's the Network Manager detects the devices and
  connects to CDMA network. I wanted to know the procedure to
 officially
  add the VID/PID's of new Sierra device to 10-modem.fdi file, so that
 I
  do not have to edit it manually.
 
 Please provide info on the exact pieces required.
 
 One way to move foward would be to file a bug with that info against
 hal-info [1] package in launchpad. We (ubuntu) takes care that info
 submitted there regularly gets committed upstream.
 
 [1] - 

Re: force nm to use a connection

2009-03-11 Thread Alexander Sack
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 12:10:40AM +0100, Jérôme PRIOR wrote:
 hello,
 
 I'm looking for info to force nm to use a connection instead of Auto
 eth0. I explain :
 
   at home I need a static IP, with special DNS, ... So, I created a
   connection called `home` with those parameters. Works fine when I
   activated it manually.
 
   When I'm outside, I need `auto eth0`.
 
 How can I tell nm when I'm at home, connect me via `home`, even if
 connect me via `auto eth0` ?
 
 I try to pla with automatic connection but of course, if I put `home`
 as auto, and `auto eth0` as no-auto, when I'm outside, `home` is up.
 And inversement.
 

NetworkManager currently has no smart tie-break logic to decide
which auto connection to use. Not sure, but maybe it prefers the last
one that was active.

Not sure if we could come up with something smarter for wired. Any ideas?

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Re: Supporting new Sierra CDMA modems.

2009-03-11 Thread Dan Williams
On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 10:08 -0700, Chetan Karia wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am an employee of Sierra wireless USA. I was testing network manager
 on Ubuntu 8.10. I found that all Sierra  CDMA modems worked well with
 network manager except our two new products which were not detected by
 Network Manager. On investigating further I discovered its just matter
 of adding the Vendor ID and Product ID of our new devices to the file
 10-modem.fdi  under the directory
 /usr/share/hal/fdi/information/10freedesktop/. Once I edit this file
 and add the VID/PID's the Network Manager detects the devices and
 connects to CDMA network. I wanted to know the procedure to officially
 add the VID/PID's of new Sierra device to 10-modem.fdi file, so that I
 do not have to edit it manually.
 
 Your help will be much appreciated.

Hi!  Alexander has already described how to get the modem recognized.
Let us know if there's any other questions you have.

In the future, we're going to use modem port detection where a small
program will query the modem for supports AT command sets (using ATI or
AT+GCAP) when its plugged in.  So updating hal-info shouldn't be
necessary for NetworkManager later than 0.7.1.

I have one question for you, however.  Many modems (including some
Sierra ones) expose more than one AT-capable serial port.  On those
modems, usually only one port returns unsolicited responses like CONNECT
that NetworkManager needs to listen for.  Is that also the case with
Sierra modems that expose multiple AT-capable serial ports?  If so, how
do we know which of the ports provides that unsolicited response?

For example, Option NV modems expose up to 4 or 5 AT-capable serial
ports, but for ealier models, only usb interface 0 provides the
necessary CONNECT response.  On later models, the 'hso' driver queries
the Option firmware for port types and exposes that information to
userspace.  Is there a similar mechanism for Sierra?

Thanks!
Dan

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Re: force nm to use a connection

2009-03-11 Thread Dan Williams
On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 11:34 +0100, Alexander Sack wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 12:10:40AM +0100, Jérôme PRIOR wrote:
  hello,
  
  I'm looking for info to force nm to use a connection instead of Auto
  eth0. I explain :
  
at home I need a static IP, with special DNS, ... So, I created a
connection called `home` with those parameters. Works fine when I
activated it manually.
  
When I'm outside, I need `auto eth0`.
  
  How can I tell nm when I'm at home, connect me via `home`, even if
  connect me via `auto eth0` ?
  
  I try to pla with automatic connection but of course, if I put `home`
  as auto, and `auto eth0` as no-auto, when I'm outside, `home` is up.
  And inversement.
  
 
 NetworkManager currently has no smart tie-break logic to decide
 which auto connection to use. Not sure, but maybe it prefers the last
 one that was active.

Yes, it uses the last connected Ethernet connection.  For wifi, it uses
the last connected AP that's currently visible.

 Not sure if we could come up with something smarter for wired. Any ideas?

Not for plain wired, unless you want to try ARP sniffing or ARP-ing a
known IP address to match a known MAC address or something.  Not that
that is in any way secure, and it would also increase connection
latency.  But maybe that's a worthwhile tradeoff to get the right wired
connection; most people will only have one or two, so a few seconds to
sniff which connection to use (if its been configured that way) might be
worth it.

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Re: NM 0.7.1 rc3 oddness with 3G USB device

2009-03-11 Thread Dan Williams
On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 12:42 +0200, Tambet Ingo wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 21:05, Dan Williams d...@redhat.com wrote:
  Mobile broadband capabilities are detected with udev capabilities now
  too, but the problem here is that nothing reports which channel is the
  control channel and which isn't.  That information need to go into the
  driver somewhere like it does for 'hso' type devices.  I don't know;
  maybe asac is right and we do need to prefer HAL over udev at least for
  0.7.1.
 
 I agree with asac then. With any modem other than HSO, you have no
 idea from probing which port is the control port and which just
 accepts AT commands. With HAL, while things are fragile and require
 manual updates, there's at least a chance it works.

Alternatively, we could use the HAL information in addition to the udev
information.  Given a udev probe of the ports, get the HAL info as well.
If HAL thinks the port is GSM/CDMA-capable, use it.  If HAL doesn't know
about any ports for the device, just pick a port to use like the udev
stuff does now.

Or we could start putting port-types into the udev rules just like we've
done for HAL.

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Re: force nm to use a connection

2009-03-11 Thread Alexander Sack
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 06:40:31AM -0400, Dan Williams wrote:
 On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 11:34 +0100, Alexander Sack wrote:
  On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 12:10:40AM +0100, Jérôme PRIOR wrote:
   hello,
   
   I'm looking for info to force nm to use a connection instead of Auto
   eth0. I explain :
   
 at home I need a static IP, with special DNS, ... So, I created a
 connection called `home` with those parameters. Works fine when I
 activated it manually.
   
 When I'm outside, I need `auto eth0`.
   
   How can I tell nm when I'm at home, connect me via `home`, even if
   connect me via `auto eth0` ?
   
   I try to pla with automatic connection but of course, if I put `home`
   as auto, and `auto eth0` as no-auto, when I'm outside, `home` is up.
   And inversement.
   
  
  NetworkManager currently has no smart tie-break logic to decide
  which auto connection to use. Not sure, but maybe it prefers the last
  one that was active.
 
 Yes, it uses the last connected Ethernet connection.  For wifi, it uses
 the last connected AP that's currently visible.
 
  Not sure if we could come up with something smarter for wired. Any ideas?
 
 Not for plain wired, unless you want to try ARP sniffing or ARP-ing a
 known IP address to match a known MAC address or something.  Not that
 that is in any way secure, and it would also increase connection
 latency.  But maybe that's a worthwhile tradeoff to get the right wired
 connection; most people will only have one or two, so a few seconds to
 sniff which connection to use (if its been configured that way) might be
 worth it.
 

I think it would be worth it and would be in line with NM's idea of
being as smart as possible :). I am not sure about the security
implications, but how does current autoconnect strategy not come with
the same risks?

Also related, how about probing for pppoe concentrators to add more
automagic on that front?

 - Alexander

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Re: dnsmasq-base does work for connection sharing

2009-03-11 Thread Dan Williams
On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 09:30 +0900, Jacobs Shannon wrote:
  Not sure what I did differently this last time, but
  dnsmasq-base (alone) is working properly for the 
  connection sharing. I've noticed a few minor behavioral 
  differences, but I think that's probably just
  some differences in the security settings.
  
  The other problems I mentioned are minor, and I can just live
  with them for now. I'll work with this configuration for a 
  few weeks and see how things go. 
  
  Thanks again for your encouragement.
 
 And sometimes it doesn't... Presumably whatever I saw last night was
 whatever was going on the first time when it didn't seem to be
 working. I don't know what state it is in, but various lesser
 solutions such as tweaking the configuration settings (in various
 orders) and restarting the network don't fix it. Nothing short of a
 full reboot seems to do the trick.
 
 Whatever state it is in, the DHCP part seems to be working, and the
 gateway computer is connected normally, but none of the guest
 computers can reach the external network, though they can ping the
 gateway machine. I now realize that I didn't do quite enough testing
 to pin it to the DNS, but I'll check with an external IP address the
 next time I see it...

So that sounds more like iptables rules than anything to do with
dnsmasq.  dnsmasq will only provide DHCP and DNS, so you should still be
able to ping external addresses as long as dnsmasq is returning the
correct gateway to machines that perform DHCP requests.  What's the
routing table on a machine you're sharing to?

Dan


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Re: Forcing a BSSID, unchecking Connect automatically doesn't work

2009-03-11 Thread Dan Williams
On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 14:58 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
 I'm trying to force a specific BSSID (testing 802.11n in fact) but 
 NetworkManager keeps trying to associate to the other BSSID's (APs) on 
 the same ESSID.  In fact, it popped up with a dialog to set up the 
 encryption settings, etc. (WPA TLS) because it couldn't use the 
 connection profile that I forced the BSSID on.  So I let it create 
 another Auto profile, set up the encryption, and then unchecked the 
 Connect automatically...but guess what?  It still connects 
 automatically.
 
 How do I force NetworkManager to ignore all BSSID's for a specific 
 ESSID, except for the one I want?

Can you post some of the NM log output?  You should see NM sending
bssid to wpa_supplicant.  If NM sends that, and you still see the
driver connecting to random BSSIDs, then that's purely a driver problem.
You should be able to recreate the issue with plain wpa_supplicant as
well, using the 'bssid' key in a network block to tell the driver to
only use that BSSID.  This is highly driver/stack dependent, so it could
be a bug in the mac80211 stack too, if you're using one of the mac80211
drivers.

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Re: force nm to use a connection

2009-03-11 Thread Dan Williams
On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 11:52 +0100, Alexander Sack wrote:
 On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 06:40:31AM -0400, Dan Williams wrote:
  On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 11:34 +0100, Alexander Sack wrote:
   On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 12:10:40AM +0100, Jérôme PRIOR wrote:
hello,

I'm looking for info to force nm to use a connection instead of Auto
eth0. I explain :

  at home I need a static IP, with special DNS, ... So, I created a
  connection called `home` with those parameters. Works fine when I
  activated it manually.

  When I'm outside, I need `auto eth0`.

How can I tell nm when I'm at home, connect me via `home`, even if
connect me via `auto eth0` ?

I try to pla with automatic connection but of course, if I put `home`
as auto, and `auto eth0` as no-auto, when I'm outside, `home` is up.
And inversement.

   
   NetworkManager currently has no smart tie-break logic to decide
   which auto connection to use. Not sure, but maybe it prefers the last
   one that was active.
  
  Yes, it uses the last connected Ethernet connection.  For wifi, it uses
  the last connected AP that's currently visible.
  
   Not sure if we could come up with something smarter for wired. Any ideas?
  
  Not for plain wired, unless you want to try ARP sniffing or ARP-ing a
  known IP address to match a known MAC address or something.  Not that
  that is in any way secure, and it would also increase connection
  latency.  But maybe that's a worthwhile tradeoff to get the right wired
  connection; most people will only have one or two, so a few seconds to
  sniff which connection to use (if its been configured that way) might be
  worth it.
  
 
 I think it would be worth it and would be in line with NM's idea of
 being as smart as possible :). I am not sure about the security
 implications, but how does current autoconnect strategy not come with
 the same risks?
 
 Also related, how about probing for pppoe concentrators to add more
 automagic on that front?

Can you point me to some info on how that can be done?

Tambet also said we can autodetect 802.1x-enabled switches as well.

Dan


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Re: Shutting down specific device

2009-03-11 Thread Dan Williams
On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 12:20 -0700, Drew Moseley wrote:
 Is there a bit of scripting magic where I can force a specific
 network device to shut down?
 
 We have a device that when it is powered down via external switch,
 Network Manager handles it but sees a state change to FAILED so it
 is marked as invalid.  I'd like to be able to tell Network Manager
 that it should be disconnected so it is handled more gracefully.

Does the device get hot-unplugged from the machine when its switched
off?  Or does it look like rfkill?  Obviously you need to get *some*
indication in the kernel that the device is no longer available.  The
normal indications of this are no carrier (wired) or rfkill (wifi).
I'd suggest using either of those if you can.

If it's wired, your driver should be setting netif_carrier_off() and NM
will handle that appropriately.  If it's wifi, the driver should be
hooking into the kernel's rfkill subsystem and setting the rfkill device
to the hard-blocked state, which NM (through HAL's killswitch support)
will pick up.

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Re: Feature request: Blacklist BSSID or MAC address

2009-03-11 Thread Dan Williams
On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 15:25 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
 Our campus wireless network has several dozen access points scattered
 around campus.  From where I sit in my office, I can see about a dozen
 or so.  Frequently, NM (or the driver) selects an AP with a relatively
 weak signal (to the point of being unusable), even though I sit across
 the hall from a much stronger one.

This would be a supplicant or driver problem and should probably be
solved there.  The supplicant should be ordering the scan list by best
signal strength already anyway.  The driver may also roam between APs
without interaction with NM or the supplicant.

 I don't want to bind the configuration to a single BSSID, because I do
 move around the campus and I want to be able to connect wherever I am.
 But I do want to blacklist the weak APs near my office, so I don't have
 to force reassociation (which seems to require power-cycling my wireless
 interface).
 
 I don't see a way to do that in the pull-down Edit Connections menu.  Is
 it possible to add such a feature?  Or should I be asking for something
 else to deal with this issue?  (For example, is it a driver bug?)

Yeah, it's either a driver or supplicant issue first; there's simply not
a way to blacklist a specific BSSID at levels lower than NM yet.  Have
you run 'iwlist' when you notice you're on a bad AP and looked at the
relative signal strengths of the reported APs to see how bad the one
you're on really is?

We could modify the supplicant to never select certain APs, and then
we'd also have to modify the driver to ensure that it never
automatically roamed to those APs as well.  That's probably not possible
with WEXT, but should be with the newer wireless driver API (cfg80211).

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Re: force nm to use a connection

2009-03-11 Thread Alexander Sack
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 06:55:45AM -0400, Dan Williams wrote:
 
 Can you point me to some info on how that can be done?

The pppoe command line tool provides the -A option (from man):

   -A The  -A  option  causes pppoe to send a PADI packet and
  then print the names of access concentrators in
  each PADO packet it receives.  Do not use this option in
  conjunction with pppd; the -A option is  meant
  to be used interactively to give interesting information
  about the access concentrator.

I tried that when i still had my pppoe thing connected to a system and
it worked.

 - Alexander

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Re: Fw: DBus interface clarification part2

2009-03-11 Thread Dan Williams
On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 18:50 -0700, Kevron Rees wrote:
  On Mon, 2009-03-09 at 04:09 -0700, Kevron Rees wrote:
Answering myself, since I got no response here, ActivateConnection 
requires 
   that the connection you want to activate has been connected to in the 
   past.  
  Am 
   I correct on this?  You basically have to get the connection object from 
   the 
   org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerSettings ListConnections() method.  From 
   that 
   list, you have to find the specific connection to use.  You do so by 
   looking 
  in 
   that path and the org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerSettings.Connection 
   interface 
   using the GetSettings() method.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but if this is a new access point, you cannot 
  connect 
   to it via dbus?  Wouldn't a simpler:

ActivateConnection(o: device, o: specific_object_to_connect_to)
   
   I responded on Saturday:
   
   http://mail.gnome.org/archives/networkmanager-list/2009-March/msg00082.html
   
   Let me know if you have any further questions!
   
   Dan
  
 Thanks Dan!  I didn't see the reply on Saturday.  My mistake.  Your example 
 is 
 very helpful.  Is it possible to use a blank path (/) as the connection if 
 this is a new connection and no settings are available yet?

Not quite.  *Every* call to Activate requires a connection in the
settings service.  If you don't have a connection defined, a number of
things won't work or get ugly, since there's no overall tracking object
associated with that request.  The Connection provides the
human-readable name for that request like Home or Work, plus a UUID
that other processes can use to perform actions when the connection
succeeds or fails.  The normal process of connecting to a new AP would
usually be to create a connection for that AP in the settings service,
then request that NM activate the newly created connection.

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Re: dnsmasq-base does work for connection sharing

2009-03-11 Thread Jacobs Shannon
 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 06:51:11 -0400
 From: Dan Williams d...@redhat.com
 
 On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 09:30 +0900, Jacobs Shannon wrote:
   Not sure what I did differently this last time, but
   dnsmasq-base (alone) is working properly for the 
   connection sharing. I've noticed a few minor behavioral 
   differences, but I think that's probably just
   some differences in the security settings.
   
   The other problems I mentioned are minor, and I can just
   live with them for now. I'll work with this 
   configuration for a few weeks and see how things go. 
   
   Thanks again for your encouragement.
  
  And sometimes it doesn't... Presumably whatever I saw last
  night was whatever was going on the first time when it 
  didn't seem to be working. I don't know what state it is 
  in, but various lesser solutions such as tweaking the 
  configuration settings (in various orders) and restarting
  the network don't fix it. Nothing short of a
  full reboot seems to do the trick.
  
  Whatever state it is in, the DHCP part seems to be working,
  and the gateway computer is connected normally, but none of
  the guest computers can reach the external network, though 
  they can ping the gateway machine. I now realize that I 
  didn't do quite enough testing to pin it to the DNS, but 
  I'll check with an external IP address the
  next time I see it...
 
 So that sounds more like iptables rules than anything to do
 with dnsmasq.  dnsmasq will only provide DHCP and DNS, so 
 you should still be able to ping external addresses as long
 as dnsmasq is returning the correct gateway to machines 
 that perform DHCP requests. What's the
 routing table on a machine you're sharing to?

Well, it hasn't got into the strange state lately, but I'll keep
working with it and see if I can detect any patterns. 

Right now I'm mostly impressed with it, but I'm thinking about
experimenting with the wireless side of it for ad hoc wireless
networking to two of my machines instead of going through the hub.


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AW: Re: dnsmasq-base does work for connection sharing

2009-03-11 Thread netzt...@bluewin.ch
Hi all

 On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 09:30 +0900, Jacobs Shannon wrote:
  I now realize that I 
  didn't do quite enough testing to pin it to the DNS, but 
  I'll check with an external IP address the
  next time I see it...

I ran into a DNS-related problem with dnsmasq (once i had discovered in syslog 
that NM complained about not finding 
the dnsmasq binary, so I installed dnsmasq-base). It returned a REFUSED status 
code upon a client's query. Via Google I 
found a post in the dnsmasq-discuss list that said:

| The only circumstance in which dnsmasq will generate a REFUSED reply is 
| when it has no upstream server available to forward a query to, but it's 
| worth bearing in mind that if dnsmasq _does_ forward the a query, then 
| the upstream nameserver could also return a REFUSED reply, and dnsmasq 
| would send that back to the original requester.

And then I realised what had happened: The client had obtained an IP address 
and issued a DNS request before my 
mobile broadband connection was up and the sharing computer had learnt about 
the ISPs DNSs via PPP. So making sure that 
the to-be-shared link is up and running before bringing up the sharing 
Ethernet or WLAN profile should help.

Right now I'm mostly impressed with it, but I'm thinking about
experimenting with the wireless side of it for ad hoc wireless
networking to two of my machines instead of going through the hub.

Works. Define a new ad-hoc WLAN profile, set WEP parameters as needed.  Bring 
up the upstream link first, then 
Create new wireless network from nm-applets menu and select your previously 
created ad-hoc profile. AFAIK, NM 
currently has no built-in way to run a WLAN NIC in master mode to create an 
AccessPoint/Infrastructure network, so 
we're stuck with ad-hoc for the time being.

regards

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Re: dnsmasq-base does work for connection sharing

2009-03-11 Thread Dan Williams
On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 21:51 +0900, Jacobs Shannon wrote:
  Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 06:51:11 -0400
  From: Dan Williams d...@redhat.com
  
  On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 09:30 +0900, Jacobs Shannon wrote:
Not sure what I did differently this last time, but
dnsmasq-base (alone) is working properly for the 
connection sharing. I've noticed a few minor behavioral 
differences, but I think that's probably just
some differences in the security settings.

The other problems I mentioned are minor, and I can just
live with them for now. I'll work with this 
configuration for a few weeks and see how things go. 

Thanks again for your encouragement.
   
   And sometimes it doesn't... Presumably whatever I saw last
   night was whatever was going on the first time when it 
   didn't seem to be working. I don't know what state it is 
   in, but various lesser solutions such as tweaking the 
   configuration settings (in various orders) and restarting
   the network don't fix it. Nothing short of a
   full reboot seems to do the trick.
   
   Whatever state it is in, the DHCP part seems to be working,
   and the gateway computer is connected normally, but none of
   the guest computers can reach the external network, though 
   they can ping the gateway machine. I now realize that I 
   didn't do quite enough testing to pin it to the DNS, but 
   I'll check with an external IP address the
   next time I see it...
  
  So that sounds more like iptables rules than anything to do
  with dnsmasq.  dnsmasq will only provide DHCP and DNS, so 
  you should still be able to ping external addresses as long
  as dnsmasq is returning the correct gateway to machines 
  that perform DHCP requests. What's the
  routing table on a machine you're sharing to?
 
 Well, it hasn't got into the strange state lately, but I'll keep
 working with it and see if I can detect any patterns. 
 
 Right now I'm mostly impressed with it, but I'm thinking about
 experimenting with the wireless side of it for ad hoc wireless
 networking to two of my machines instead of going through the hub.

If *anything* else is touching iptables rules on your machine, it could
step on the NM's rules unless that program is careful to only undo what
it added in the first place.

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Re: AW: Re: dnsmasq-base does work for connection sharing

2009-03-11 Thread Dan Williams
On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 13:36 +, netzt...@bluewin.ch wrote:
 Hi all
 
  On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 09:30 +0900, Jacobs Shannon wrote:
   I now realize that I 
   didn't do quite enough testing to pin it to the DNS, but 
   I'll check with an external IP address the
   next time I see it...
 
 I ran into a DNS-related problem with dnsmasq (once i had discovered in 
 syslog that NM complained about not finding 
 the dnsmasq binary, so I installed dnsmasq-base). It returned a REFUSED 
 status code upon a client's query. Via Google I 
 found a post in the dnsmasq-discuss list that said:
 
 | The only circumstance in which dnsmasq will generate a REFUSED reply is 
 | when it has no upstream server available to forward a query to, but it's 
 | worth bearing in mind that if dnsmasq _does_ forward the a query, then 
 | the upstream nameserver could also return a REFUSED reply, and dnsmasq 
 | would send that back to the original requester.
 
 And then I realised what had happened: The client had obtained an IP address 
 and issued a DNS request before my 
 mobile broadband connection was up and the sharing computer had learnt about 
 the ISPs DNSs via PPP. So making sure that 
 the to-be-shared link is up and running before bringing up the sharing 
 Ethernet or WLAN profile should help.
 
 Right now I'm mostly impressed with it, but I'm thinking about
 experimenting with the wireless side of it for ad hoc wireless
 networking to two of my machines instead of going through the hub.
 
 Works. Define a new ad-hoc WLAN profile, set WEP parameters as needed.  Bring 
 up the upstream link first, then 
 Create new wireless network from nm-applets menu and select your previously 
 created ad-hoc profile. AFAIK, NM 
 currently has no built-in way to run a WLAN NIC in master mode to create an 
 AccessPoint/Infrastructure network, so 
 we're stuck with ad-hoc for the time being.

That's because (a) drivers universally suck for master mode, and (b)
there's a hell of a lot more setup required for master mode than adhoc.
At the moment, I don't see a compelling reason to use master mode over
adhoc until drivers get better.  We certainly can't flip the switch
until most of the mac80211-based drivers get good AP mode support.
While some drivers do have OK AP-mode support, there question is, what
advantages does master mode bring, and if those are significant, how do
we let the user know what impact master vs. adhoc will have on their
day-to-day workflow?

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Re: [PATCH] Re: How to suppress pop-up window when device is inserted ?

2009-03-11 Thread Christopher Lang

Hi Alexander,

 This requires a patch to not add actions if there is no action
 support. Forgot to submit it ... will come in a minute ..

could you be a litte bit more specific about the actions that you mentioned, 
point me in some direction where I should start digging to understand how 
this works?

Is that something which goes into the hal fdi files? Do I need to look at the 
dbus methods that NM provides? Which one specifically? Or is it the nm-applet 
code to look at? As I am new to NM I couldn't see that immediately by looking 
at your patch.

Just a hint with some more context where to start looking would be nice.

many thanks
Chris


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Re: [PATCH] Re: How to suppress pop-up window when device is inserted ?

2009-03-11 Thread Dan Williams
On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 16:58 +0100, Christopher Lang wrote:
 Hi Alexander,
 
  This requires a patch to not add actions if there is no action
  support. Forgot to submit it ... will come in a minute ..
 
 could you be a litte bit more specific about the actions that you 
 mentioned, 
 point me in some direction where I should start digging to understand how 
 this works?
 
 Is that something which goes into the hal fdi files? Do I need to look at the 
 dbus methods that NM provides? Which one specifically? Or is it the nm-applet 
 code to look at? As I am new to NM I couldn't see that immediately by looking 
 at your patch.
 
 Just a hint with some more context where to start looking would be nice.

The patches that pop up a notification when you plug in the 3G card are
Ubuntu specific and not part of upstream NetworkManager, so you won't
find them in official NM sources.  But Alexander is the maintainer of
NM for Ubuntu and thus would be quite qualified to point out how to
suppress it.

Dan


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Re: dnsmasq-base does work for connection sharing

2009-03-11 Thread netzt...@bluewin.ch

That's because (a) drivers universally suck for master mode, and (b)
there's a hell of a lot more setup required for master mode than adhoc.
At the moment, I don't see a compelling reason to use master mode over
adhoc until drivers get better.  

er.. I didn't mean to complain about the lack (which I don't consider as 
such) of AP-mode support. If my words 
sounded like a complaint, I offer my apologies on the spot. I like NM very 
much, and it's fun seeing how it gets better 
with every release: I was stunned how easy it was to get my USB 3G modem 
working with NM (plug, PIN, works), where it 
took me half an evening to make it work on MacOS X, half of which figuring out 
which software to obtain from where and 
what exactly to use it for...

The one thing that springs to mind if it comes to Infrastructure vs ad-hoc 
modes of 802.11 could be scaleability 
for a larger number of devices, and  another thing might be the lack of 
WPA/WPA2 support I see occurring in most 
implementations once you switch over to ad-hoc mode. I'm not quite sure if that 
is because of the nature of how 802.11 
ad-hoc mode  works or if no vendor's so far cared about implementing WPA/WPA2 
in ad-hoc mode.

regards

Marc

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Re: [PATCH] Re: How to suppress pop-up window when device is inserted ?

2009-03-11 Thread Christopher Lang

 Ubuntu specific and not part of upstream NetworkManager, so you won't

Dan, thanks, that clarifies things a bit.
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Skipping popup requesting secrets

2009-03-11 Thread Drew Moseley
What is the best way to have NetworkManager/nm-applet __not__ request wireless 
secrets?  We have a scenario where we are attempting to connect to the network 
and we do not have a user at the system.  In this scenario we just want to fail 
this particular connection without marking the connection as bad.  We want to 
attempt another connection with the same secrets later, ala background polling.

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Re: Feature request: Blacklist BSSID or MAC address

2009-03-11 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 07:04 -0400, Dan Williams wrote:
 On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 15:25 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
  Our campus wireless network has several dozen access points scattered
  around campus.  From where I sit in my office, I can see about a dozen
  or so.  Frequently, NM (or the driver) selects an AP with a relatively
  weak signal (to the point of being unusable), even though I sit across
  the hall from a much stronger one.
 
 This would be a supplicant or driver problem and should probably be
 solved there.  The supplicant should be ordering the scan list by best
 signal strength already anyway.  The driver may also roam between APs
 without interaction with NM or the supplicant.
 
  I don't want to bind the configuration to a single BSSID, because I do
  move around the campus and I want to be able to connect wherever I am.
  But I do want to blacklist the weak APs near my office, so I don't have
  to force reassociation (which seems to require power-cycling my wireless
  interface).
  
  I don't see a way to do that in the pull-down Edit Connections menu.  Is
  it possible to add such a feature?  Or should I be asking for something
  else to deal with this issue?  (For example, is it a driver bug?)
 
 Yeah, it's either a driver or supplicant issue first; there's simply not
 a way to blacklist a specific BSSID at levels lower than NM yet.  Have
 you run 'iwlist' when you notice you're on a bad AP and looked at the
 relative signal strengths of the reported APs to see how bad the one
 you're on really is?
 
 We could modify the supplicant to never select certain APs, and then
 we'd also have to modify the driver to ensure that it never
 automatically roamed to those APs as well.  That's probably not possible
 with WEXT, but should be with the newer wireless driver API (cfg80211).

OK I will keep an eye on this with that in mind and post to the
supplicant bug list when I have enough data to make it worthwhile.

Thanks.

 
 Dan
 
 
 
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NM stops and doesn't connect

2009-03-11 Thread Cliff McDiarmid
 - Original Message -
 From: Dan Williams d...@redhat.com
 To: Cliff McDiarmid cliffhan...@gardener.com
 Cc: networkmanager-list@gnome.org
 Subject: Re: NM stops and doesn't connect
 Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:21:16 -0400

I'm sending this message to the mailing site this time, I don't know whether 
anyone can help me further.

 Are you using the supplicant manually?  With NM, there's no need to have
 a supplicant config file even, since NM will send config information to
 the supplicant on its own, based on the connections you've defined
 either in your distro config files or in GConf.

Yes Dan, its the only way I can get it loaded, dbus is supposed to
activate it but won't, I've tried everything I know, which is not
much because I'm not a programmer.

I should make it clear that I'm trying to connect via the command
prompt as a user, although I get the same result as root.  I assume this
is possible or should I be in a desktop manager with the applet etc?

 NetworkManager is trying to start the system settings service with D-Bus
 service activation, which is normal.  Do you have
 the 
 /usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerSystemSettings.service
  file, and if so, what does it 
 contain?

[D-BUS Service]
Name=org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerSystemSettings
Exec=/usr/sbin/nm-system-settings --config
/etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf
User=root

 When nm-system-settings is started, what's the output of the following
 command?

 dbus-send --system --print-reply 
 --dest=org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerSystemSettings 
 /org/freedesktop/NetworkManagerSettings 
 org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerSettings.ListConnections

method return sender=:1.2 - dest=:1.4 reply_serial=2
object path /fi/epitest/hostap/WPASupplicant/Interfaces/0

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dns work arounds

2009-03-11 Thread Eric S. Johansson
running with ubuntu 8.04 and a crufty netmanager from last summer.  my main
problem is that the dns data from open vpn connections is ignored.  a secondary
problem is that routes are not handled correctly when switching between wifi and
wired.

since the latest netmanager won't compile on 8.04 (kernel too old), any ideas
for workarounds?

thanks

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Re: dns work arounds

2009-03-11 Thread Marc Luethi
On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 16:40 -0400, Eric S. Johansson wrote:
 
 since the latest netmanager won't compile on 8.04 (kernel too old), any ideas
 for workarounds?

https://launchpad.net/~network-manager/+archive/ppa

select hardy heron and find the right sources.list statements:

deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/network-manager/ppa/ubuntu hardy main
deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/network-manager/ppa/ubuntu hardy main

That should word, I think

regards

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Re: dns work arounds

2009-03-11 Thread Eric S. Johansson
(forgot to send to list)

Marc Luethi wrote:
 On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 16:40 -0400, Eric S. Johansson wrote:
 since the latest netmanager won't compile on 8.04 (kernel too old), any ideas
 for workarounds?
 
 https://launchpad.net/~network-manager/+archive/ppa
 
 select hardy heron and find the right sources.list statements:
 
 deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/network-manager/ppa/ubuntu hardy main
 deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/network-manager/ppa/ubuntu hardy main
 
 That should word, I think
 
 regards
 

W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net hardy Release: The following signatures
couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY
D702BF6B8C6C1EFD

installed key

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Version: SKS 1.0.10

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used the text and video instructions.  I've had this problem for months and when
I wasn't able to resolve it, I deleted the repository and forgot about it till
now.  any idea why this problem persists?

--- eric

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Trouble configuring a VPN interface to access a Windows network

2009-03-11 Thread Kevin Gilbert
I am having trouble configuring a VPN interface to access a Windows network.

Within the Windows Network Connections window this connection is listed as:
Name: net name
Type: Virtual Private Network
Device Name: WAN Miniport (PPTP)

It was created via the New Connection Wizard as follows:
Network Connection Type: Connect to the network at my workplace
Network Connection: Virtual Private Network connection
Connection Name: net name
Public Network: Do not dial the initial connection
VPN Server Selection: host name / ip address
Connection Availability: Anyone's use

I have tried to configure the connection via the nm-applet as follows:
Choose a VPN Connection Type: Point-To-Point Tunneling Protocol (PPTP)
Gateway: host name / ip address
User name: user name - see Note
Password: password - see Note
NT Domain: domain name - see Note
(Advanced Button - basically used the defaults)
Authentication
Allow the following authentication methods: (all checked)
Security and Compression
Use Point-To-Point encryption (MPPE): unchecked
Allow BSD compression: checked
Allow Deflate compression: checked
Use TCP header compression: checked
Echo
Send PPP echo packets: unchecked

NOTE: The user name, password are those that are entered in Windows when the I 
connect to the VPN and the Domain is the Windows domain that I am logging 
into. Note that the user name and password used for the actual Windows login 
is different to the ones used above.

When trying to activate the connection, the following is produced in the 
system log file. (Note that this has been slightly edited for security 
reasons.)

NetworkManager: info  Starting VPN service 
'org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.pptp'...
NetworkManager: info  VPN service 'org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.pptp' 
started (org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.pptp), PID 25013
NetworkManager: info  VPN service 'org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.pptp' just 
appeared, activating connections
NetworkManager: info  VPN plugin state changed: 3
NetworkManager: info  VPN connection 'VPN connection 1' (Connect) reply 
received.
pppd[25016]: Plugin /usr/lib/pppd/2.4.4/nm-pptp-pppd-plugin.so loaded.
pppd[25016]: pppd 2.4.4 started by root, uid 0
pppd[25016]: Using interface ppp0
pppd[25016]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/pts/2
pptp[25017]: nm-pptp-service-25013 log[main:pptp.c:314]: The synchronous pptp 
option is NOT activated
pptp[25026]: nm-pptp-service-25013 log[ctrlp_rep:pptp_ctrl.c:251]: Sent 
control packet type is 1 'Start-Control-Connection-Request'
pptp[25026]: nm-pptp-service-25013 log[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:739]: Received 
Start Control Connection Reply
pptp[25026]: nm-pptp-service-25013 log[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:773]: Client 
connection established.
pptp[25026]: nm-pptp-service-25013 log[ctrlp_rep:pptp_ctrl.c:251]: Sent 
control packet type is 7 'Outgoing-Call-Request'
pptp[25026]: nm-pptp-service-25013 log[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:858]: Received 
Outgoing Call Reply.
pptp[25026]: nm-pptp-service-25013 log[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:897]: Outgoing 
call established (call ID 0, peer's call ID 61490).
pptp[25026]: nm-pptp-service-25013 log[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:950]: 
PPTP_SET_LINK_INFO received from peer_callid 50110
pptp[25026]: nm-pptp-service-25013 log[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:953]:   
send_accm is , recv_accm is 
pptp[25026]: nm-pptp-service-25013 warn[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:956]: Non-zero 
Async Control Character Maps are notsupported!
pppd[25016]: CHAP authentication succeeded
pppd[25016]: LCP terminated by peer (^BM-?-M-K^@m-...@^@^BM-f)
pptp[25026]: nm-pptp-service-25013 log[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:950]: 
PPTP_SET_LINK_INFO received from peer_callid 50110
pptp[25026]: nm-pptp-service-25013 log[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:953]:   
send_accm is , recv_accm is 
pptp[25026]: nm-pptp-service-25013 warn[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:956]: Non-zero 
Async Control Character Maps are notsupported!
pptp[25026]: nm-pptp-service-25013 log[ctrlp_disp:pptp_ctrl.c:912]: Received 
Call Clear Request.
NetworkManager: info  VPN plugin failed: 1
pppd[25016]: Connection terminated.
pptp[25017]: nm-pptp-service-25013 warn[decaps_hdlc:pptp_gre.c:204]: short 
read (-1): Input/output error
pptp[25017]: nm-pptp-service-25013 warn[decaps_hdlc:pptp_gre.c:216]: pppd may 
have shutdown, see pppd log
pptp[25026]: nm-pptp-service-25013 log[callmgr_main:pptp_callmgr.c:234]: 
Closing connection (unhandled)
pptp[25026]: nm-pptp-service-25013 log[ctrlp_rep:pptp_ctrl.c:251]: Sent 
control packet type is 12 'Call-Clear-Request'
NetworkManager: info  VPN plugin failed: 1
pptp[25026]: nm-pptp-service-25013 log[call_callback:pptp_callmgr.c:79]: 
Closing connection (call state)
pppd[25016]: Modem hangup
pppd[25016]: Exit.
NetworkManager: info  VPN plugin failed: 1
NetworkManager: info  VPN plugin state changed: 6
NetworkManager: info  VPN plugin state change reason: 0
NetworkManager: WARN  connection_state_changed(): Could not process the 
request because no VPN connection was active.
NetworkManager: 

Re: Skipping popup requesting secrets

2009-03-11 Thread Maxim Levitsky
On Wed, 2009-03-11 at 12:11 -0700, Drew Moseley wrote:
 What is the best way to have NetworkManager/nm-applet __not__ request 
 wireless secrets?  We have a scenario where we are attempting to connect to 
 the network and we do not have a user at the system.  In this scenario we 
 just want to fail this particular connection without marking the connection 
 as bad.  We want to attempt another connection with the same secrets later, 
 ala background polling.
 
 Drew

I had a similiar issue, a user that doesn't have a clue what the wifi
password is, so I spent lots of time to tell that 'all you need to do is
press that reconnect button duh!'

There were some problems with wifi device that caused it to timeout like
that.


Now I use latest -git of NM and wpa_supplicant, latest wireless-testing
and I never see that dialog, even after many minutes, if I on purpose
set invalid password.
Maybe this got fixed?

Best regards,
Maxim Levitsky

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