Re: Network Manager does not find system wide connections
On Sat, 01 Aug 2009 00:58:22 +0100 Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net wrote: Brian Morrison wrote: I do not believe that it was a good idea to use nm as a standard software tool in ubuntu. Works perfectly fine in Fedora You should say, It works fine for ME in Fedora. It is obvious from the Fedora newsgroups that many people have serious problems with NM. I should have added a tongue-in-cheek smiley. NM does actually do what I need, but I can see that it could be a problem if I were trying to do something more complex. Networking is a complex area. Everyone has a different need. I don't, personally, but I find the complete lack of documentation a major drawback with NM. That's true for many packages, the difficulty is that documentation needs stability and rapid development doesn't provide that. Fedora is about rapid development The whole point of Linux is that it is not magic; you are meant to be able to work out what is going on. There is a complex interaction between NM, dbus and various other things like udev, hal (becoming deprecated), PolicyKit etc. All of these packages do something different but in a way that isn't always clear. If anyone has any bright ideas about how to describe their interaction in a clear and simple manner please go ahead. I have not managed to work it out completely, so I suppose I should feel lucky that NM works for me. -- Brian Morrison bdm at fenrir dot org dot uk Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in the mud; after a while you realize you are muddy and the pig is enjoying it. GnuPG key ID DE32E5C5 - http://wwwkeys.uk.pgp.net/pgpnet/wwwkeys.html ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: Network Manager does not find system wide connections
Brian Morrison wrote: The whole point of Linux is that it is not magic; you are meant to be able to work out what is going on. There is a complex interaction between NM, dbus and various other things like udev, hal (becoming deprecated), PolicyKit etc. All of these packages do something different but in a way that isn't always clear. If anyone has any bright ideas about how to describe their interaction in a clear and simple manner please go ahead. I have not managed to work it out completely, so I suppose I should feel lucky that NM works for me. You clearly have a pretty good idea of how NM works. If you, or someone like you, could just pen a short account that would be immensely helpful. If there were mistakes they could quickly be corrected. I would love to know, for example, which files NM looks at, or which files one can usefully change. I just get hints from time to time in various postings but there doesn't seem to be anything written down. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: Network Manager does not find system wide connections
Here is a quick, incomplete overview of the configs. I recommend playing with the program cnetworkmanager to see how the dbus works. The following Doc assumes Ubuntu 9.04 with Gnome This doc has no License feel free to edit, sell, hide, destroy, distribute. User-settings Note - only the first person logged into the system has access to user-settings.(needs verification) user settings are stored in the directory ~/.gconf/system/networking/connections/[num] and ~/.gconf/system/networking/wireless/networks -(note:someone please differentiate the two folders) -each number is a folder representing a connection(Ethernet, wifi, cellular, etc) -most these settings can be changed through system---Preferences---Network Connections The preferred method to view these settings is through gcong-editor( most those settings can be changed through the Network-Manager GUI and that is the preferred method) Applications---Accessories--Terminal u...@user-laptop:~$ gconf-editor system---networking---networking | |--connections | |--wireless #* System settings -These connections are available to all users and before xserver loads(needs verification) -System connections are stored in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ # Fun facts *go to system---Preferences---Network Connections -To make a user setting available as a system setting *highlight connection, select edit, and check box Available to all users(bottom corner) -If a connection is not a wan and will only be used for local access(aka. never get default route) *highlight connection, select edit, select tab ipv4 settings, select routes, check box use connection for resource on its network *note:you can also add custom routes to be added in this area On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 7:14 AM, Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net wrote: Brian Morrison wrote: The whole point of Linux is that it is not magic; you are meant to be able to work out what is going on. There is a complex interaction between NM, dbus and various other things like udev, hal (becoming deprecated), PolicyKit etc. All of these packages do something different but in a way that isn't always clear. If anyone has any bright ideas about how to describe their interaction in a clear and simple manner please go ahead. I have not managed to work it out completely, so I suppose I should feel lucky that NM works for me. You clearly have a pretty good idea of how NM works. If you, or someone like you, could just pen a short account that would be immensely helpful. If there were mistakes they could quickly be corrected. I would love to know, for example, which files NM looks at, or which files one can usefully change. I just get hints from time to time in various postings but there doesn't seem to be anything written down. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
reconnect after sleeping
Hello all, I wrote to this list a few weeks ago explaining a problem I had with an atheros card. I managed to install madwifi and things are much better now. I had to change as well the channel of my router from 6 to 10 to make it work. That is solved [?]. The only thing is not working is when the machine goes to sleep and comes back there is no way to make the connection again. I have restarted the network service but it does not help. My machine is an Eee PC 1000HA running Fedora 10. With a card 01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01) Do you know if there is a way to solve this? Cheers, Manuel 330.gif___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
ppp strangeness
I only have one remaining problem with mobile broadband, which I don't think is really anything to do with NM, but maybe some of the knowledgeable people here might be able to provide some insight. It's a problem establishing the ppp session, and only happens when the modem falls back to 2G, when out of range of a 3G connection. I've attached some syslog outputs which show the ppp exchange for when 2G fails, for when it succeeds, and the normal 3G case. The connection only succeeds about one time in 5. I suspect it's a carrier issue, but I just wonder if there is anything that can be done to overcome it, maybe by tweaking the default ppp options? Modem is a ( horrible :) ZTE MF627. Any ideas appreciated. Thanks, Rick syslog-2g-fail Description: Binary data syslog-2g-ok Description: Binary data syslog-3g-ok Description: Binary data ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
