Re: Mysteries of NM
On Sat, 2011-02-26 at 15:09 +, Timothy Murphy wrote: > I'm running NetworkManager on my Thinkpad T60 > (Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG controller, iwl3945 driver) > and it works fine under Fedora/KDE, > but I find the user interface almost completely unintelligible. > > If I left click on the NM icon in the panel > a window comes up with WLAN Interface on the left, > and Connections on the right. > (Rather annoyingly, there is no X at the top right-hand corner > to close the window, one has to click again on the icon.) > A number of APs (4) are listed on the right, including the one I am using. > > On the left, the Traffic box shows a number of moving spikes, > distributed unevenly but approximately one every 10 seconds. > I take it these are beacons of some kind from the APs? > > If I click on the Manage Connections button at the bottom of the window > and then choose Wireless, my present connection is listed, > but it says Last Used: Never. which I find puzzling. > > If I highlight this entry, and click on Scan, > I see rather a nice map showing the APs previously listed, > presumably showing the stronger signals nearer to the centre. > (What, if anything, does the location around the circle mean?) > > I find it odd that this graphic only appears > after I have chosen a specific connection; > I would have thought it would be more logical > to offer it when the APs were listed earlier. > > Are others puzzled by the NM interface, > or am I being obtuse? > > I am mystified by your description of the interface. When I left click on the NM icon I get no Traffic Box, no Manage Connwections button, etc, etc and so forth. Is it that you are using knetworkmanager rather than Network Manager? -- === Many pages make a thick book. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net ___ networkmanager-list mailing list networkmanager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: Mysteries of NM
Are you using KDE 4.5? The network-manager plasmoid was redesigned, and now its much more stable than before, it's worth a try. 2011/2/26 Timothy Murphy > Andrey Borzenkov wrote: > > >> I'm running NetworkManager on my Thinkpad T60 > >> (Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG controller, iwl3945 driver) > >> and it works fine under Fedora/KDE, > >> but I find the user interface almost completely unintelligible. > > ... > >> > >> Are others puzzled by the NM interface, > >> or am I being obtuse? > >> > > > > It is not NM but rather knetworkmanager (a.k.a. networkmanagement) > > which is independent project. > > > > I do not think many people on this list are using or working on it. > > You better use kde-networkmana...@kde.org. > > OK, thanks. > I suspected that might be it. > The interface is quite nice, but bizarre. > > -- > Timothy Murphy > e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net > tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 > s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland > > ___ > networkmanager-list mailing list > networkmanager-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list > ___ networkmanager-list mailing list networkmanager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: Mysteries of NM
Andrey Borzenkov wrote: >> I'm running NetworkManager on my Thinkpad T60 >> (Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG controller, iwl3945 driver) >> and it works fine under Fedora/KDE, >> but I find the user interface almost completely unintelligible. > ... >> >> Are others puzzled by the NM interface, >> or am I being obtuse? >> > > It is not NM but rather knetworkmanager (a.k.a. networkmanagement) > which is independent project. > > I do not think many people on this list are using or working on it. > You better use kde-networkmana...@kde.org. OK, thanks. I suspected that might be it. The interface is quite nice, but bizarre. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland ___ networkmanager-list mailing list networkmanager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: Mysteries of NM
On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > I'm running NetworkManager on my Thinkpad T60 > (Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG controller, iwl3945 driver) > and it works fine under Fedora/KDE, > but I find the user interface almost completely unintelligible. ... > > Are others puzzled by the NM interface, > or am I being obtuse? > It is not NM but rather knetworkmanager (a.k.a. networkmanagement) which is independent project. I do not think many people on this list are using or working on it. You better use kde-networkmana...@kde.org. ___ networkmanager-list mailing list networkmanager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Mysteries of NM
I'm running NetworkManager on my Thinkpad T60 (Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG controller, iwl3945 driver) and it works fine under Fedora/KDE, but I find the user interface almost completely unintelligible. If I left click on the NM icon in the panel a window comes up with WLAN Interface on the left, and Connections on the right. (Rather annoyingly, there is no X at the top right-hand corner to close the window, one has to click again on the icon.) A number of APs (4) are listed on the right, including the one I am using. On the left, the Traffic box shows a number of moving spikes, distributed unevenly but approximately one every 10 seconds. I take it these are beacons of some kind from the APs? If I click on the Manage Connections button at the bottom of the window and then choose Wireless, my present connection is listed, but it says Last Used: Never. which I find puzzling. If I highlight this entry, and click on Scan, I see rather a nice map showing the APs previously listed, presumably showing the stronger signals nearer to the centre. (What, if anything, does the location around the circle mean?) I find it odd that this graphic only appears after I have chosen a specific connection; I would have thought it would be more logical to offer it when the APs were listed earlier. Are others puzzled by the NM interface, or am I being obtuse? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland ___ networkmanager-list mailing list networkmanager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: Yet another crash when D-Bus goes away
On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 3:14 AM, Dan Williams wrote: > On Sun, 2011-02-20 at 16:10 +0300, Andrey Borzenkov wrote: >> I get this every time on shutdown under systemd. NM debug stack trace >> attached. Version is 0.8.2 + 2ce6f2 + 975133. > > You also want: > > 6068ae49a21ed329611a5ddcde63c2e97b3a3aac > Yep. To comment on commit log question: I'm not entirely sure why we hit this only at shutdown with systemd; it could be that systemd is killing the bus daemon at the same time as we're running the dispatcher and that's why the GetNameOwner call doesn't complete. This happens, because in current systemd design there is no stop dependency between dbus.service and any service that requires D-Bus. So D-Bus is stopped as soon as possible, leaving all dependent services orphan. Nor is there any start dependency :) But this is emulated by autospawn on dbus.socket access. ___ networkmanager-list mailing list networkmanager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: [PATCH] dnsmasq: fix sending the conf-file parameter to dnsmasq
Hi! Am 26.02.2011 03:19, schrieb Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre: > Hi, > > Please see the attached patch. It fixes an issue reported downstream on > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/725041 > > dnsmasq, starting in version 2.56, expects parameters requiring > arguments to have the arguments "attached" to them with an =. This > makes dnsmasq fail on startup when loading a connection in internet > sharing mode. See the discussion at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=615082 with dnsmasq upstream. It seems the way to fix this is to stop making up a random, bogus file name and just pass --conf-file without arguments to dnsmasq. Cheers, Michael -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ networkmanager-list mailing list networkmanager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
