Re: is anyone actually still using WiMAX
On Tue, 2015-02-10 at 09:53 -0500, Dan Winship wrote: > While taking cheap potshots at WiMAX during devconf.cz, we started > wonder whether anyone would care (or even notice) if we dropped support > for it in NM 1.2, given that: > > - WiMAX seems to be a dying technology > > - the Intel WiMAX driver for Linux has never worked very well, and > the SDK appears to no longer be supported > > - NM's WiMAX support requires a hacked up version of the Intel > WiMAX SDK that supports libnl3, which exists only in a git > repository whose location has never been terribly well > advertised, suggesting most distros probably don't build it > anyway. > > - Fedora dropped it a few releases back and there was no uproar > > Of course this would not affect people using WiMAX via external hotspots > (assuming such people and hotspots still exist). Side note: here in the US, Clear/Sprint (the only national WiMAX provider) will be shutting down their WiMAX network in June 2015 and transitioning the spectrum over to TDD-LTE. Yota in Russia moved to TDD-LTE in 2013, and I think the only major networks left are UQ in Taiwan/Japan and KT in South Korea... Also, Intel devices are the only ones supported by NM right now, and they haven't made the hardware or updated drivers since 2012. Dan ___ networkmanager-list mailing list networkmanager-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: [review] dcbw/0910-memleaks
On Tue, 2015-02-10 at 15:44 +0100, Lubomir Rintel wrote: > On Tue, 2015-02-10 at 15:10 +0100, Dan Williams wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Review request for this; most are cherry-picks (with fixup) for > > thaller's git master memleak fixes. Anything that has my commit > > authorship is new though and should get a look. It allows > > valgrind-enabled 'make check' to pass on 0.9.10. > > Looks good to me. > > Passed a compile-check with Werror too. Thanks, merged to nm-0-9-10. Dan ___ networkmanager-list mailing list networkmanager-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: is anyone actually still using WiMAX
On 02/12/2015 12:47 PM, Stuart Gathman wrote: >> Am 10.02.2015 um 15:53 schrieb Dan Winship: >>> Of course this would not affect people using WiMAX via external hotspots >>> (assuming such people and hotspots still exist). > WiMax by its nature encourages locked, proprietary end points, so it is > primarily used with an external hotspot. This is not a bad thing - buy > the proprietary hotspot, and you have WiMax internet anywhere in Jordan, > for instance. But it would be an uphill slog to support directly > connecting to proprietary networks, and I have yet to see an open WiMax > network. > > So my 2 cents would be to shelve support until there is WiMax network > that can use it. (Does anyone know of one operating today?) The networks themselves are proprietary, but the protocol for communicating with them is open, just like with GSM/CDMA-based mobile broadband. If you have certain Intel Wi-Fi chipsets in your laptop (like the 6250) then, you can connect to WiMAX networks directly, without an external hotspot. Except, as noted, the driver support is sketchy (last time I tested it, using WiMAX at all caused Wi-Fi to break completely until you rebooted), and at least Fedora, Debian, and Ubuntu aren't building support for it. (So it's looking like the answer to the original question is: no, no one will care if we rip out support for it completely.) -- Dan ___ networkmanager-list mailing list networkmanager-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
