I'm glad someone from Canonical responded, as Ubuntu is my distro of choice.
The reason I don't have access to the access point/router is because the
network is locked down to the point of not being able to connect to other
devices on the network. I know this is not a standard use case, but you could
extend it by imagining someone at Starbucks on the Starbucks wifi wanting to
print to their portable printer which only supports wifi. In this case, they
would also have to disconnect from the wifi access point and reconnect to the
printer. Or imagine a user wanting to connect to two wireless networks at the
same time to transfer files.
While these two ARE special cases, the other issue should be a fairly common
one - having internet through one connection (whether it's wired, wireless, an
aircard, bluetooth tethering, dial-up, etc.) and wanting to connect to a wifi
enabled printer. In any of these cases, it becomes nigh impossible th achieve
the desired result. And so far I haven't found anything in network-manager that
will facilitate this.
And as stated by Dan, it also extends to other special use cases (sharing a
network connection with another device, wanting to access a private network at
the same time as your internet connection, etc.) Ideally there would be a way
to specify a network connection as an internet connection (and enable
load-balancing for multiple connections, I suppose) and designating a network
connection as a private connection (automatic searching for devices occurs
automatically on all private networks, typing in an IANA restricted IP address
will check both networks for availability of that address/port and prompt if
it's found on more than one network).
Subject: Re: [REQ] Adding support for simultaneous wireless networks
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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:58:32 +0100
ah ok then. however, i think it should be a bit more clear to the user
what to do. something like a 3 step wizard like bluez-gnome has now for
setting up new bluetooth devices would be nice.
for example something like this:
1. select the device connected to the internet
2. select the device for others to connect to, to use the shared
connection
3. (optional for wifi) select encryption
and then nm sets up the shared connection on the chosen device.
just an idea, open for improvements and comments ;)
greets,
Björn
On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 11:47 -0400, Dan Williams wrote:
On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 16:37 +0100, Bjoern Martensen wrote:
a friend of mine has a desktop pc with 2 ethernet devices onboard and
uses one to connect to his dsl modem and one to share this pppoe
connection over to his xbox. being able to share a connection not only
wired - wifi but also wired - wired would be nice in such
situations and it can't be done with the current state.
NM 0.7 allows connection sharing between arbitrary devices.
Dan
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Jerone Young
wrote:
This is not a standard use case. The fact is most consumers would have
the wireless printer connected to their wifi network. I myself have a
wireless printer and it connects to my wifi network, where I just access
it like a standard network printer.
I'm a little confused on exactly why you are connecting to your printer
via ad-hoc mode, unless you do not have a wifi access point. To which
once you did get one, you need to connect the printer to the access
point.
The only common case for this connecting to a printer wirelessly
directly is via bluetooth, but this is handled by bluez and not
network-manager. Also devices that do support it, handle this easily.
Supporting something like this actually confuses users. How do you know
which connection to get to the internet from ? .. it makes little
since ...
On Mon, 2008-10-27 at 00:53 -0600, Brent Newland wrote:
I work at a retail store selling computers, and I can tell you that
all the printer manufacturer's seem to be going wireless. Out of the
latest selection of HP and Canon printers we carry, nearly all of the
consumer level machines have built in wireless.
Alot of people expect to be able to connect to the internet (whether
it's through a wireless network, a cell phone card, a cable) and also
be able to connect to their printer at the same time to print
wirelessly, but that's not currently an easy thing to configure.
What's even worse is if you want to connect to a wireless network while
being connected to a wireless printer in ad-hoc mode. Currently, to do
this you would have to use airtun-ng (this is the only program I've found
which does this):
http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=airtun-ngDokuWiki=70b54c7d04564ca6bcee0f8746f3044d#connecting_to_two_access_points
That'll let you connect to two wireless networks as long as they are on
the same channel.
I
