Re: Modern icons

2009-05-21 Thread Karl Lattimer
I had already done some work on this, but didn't get time to finish. If
you like I can dig out the stuff I did but I think Dan already has them,
or they're probably in the list archive *i think*

Their are differences between mine and jimmacs and jimmacs aren't
free :/ but mine are similar and in some ways I think more appropriate.

See if you can hunt down the original thread, if not then I'll poke
around my crud heap of stuff until I find it :)

BR,
 K


On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 16:21 +0200, stephane.demur...@free.fr wrote:
 hi,
 
 Would it be possible to ship a more modern, Tango-ish icon set with NM?
 
 A lot of friends of mine and myself think the animation is blurry and more
 generally does not fit with the hicolor theme (which is mostly Tango 
 nowadays).
 
 Jimmac's icons are really sexy:
 http://jimmac.musichall.cz/i.php?i=NetworkManager
 
 He originally proposed them here:
 http://mail.gnome.org/archives/networkmanager-list/2005-December/msg00035.html
 and nobody really rejected them.
 
 What do you think? I think the new NM-0.7 has enough features to deserve a
 proper icon set :)
 
 thanks for the great software!
 
 --Stef
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Weird request for blocking the scurge of the airwaves

2009-05-10 Thread Karl Lattimer
Not sure how many of you will have heard of this, I'm not sure quite how
far this thing has travelled but this Free Public Wi-Fi virus is
getting on my nerves... 

Read a bit about it here;
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/travel/business/article3554838.ece

I was wondering if we could have network manager just ignore ad-hoc
networks with the SSID Free Public Wi-Fi

Thoughts?

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Re: New icons for nm-applet

2008-10-28 Thread Karl Lattimer
 Sorry about that, lots 'o mail.  I suck.  Yours look better, thanks :)
 
 One question though: the vpn connecting icons are intended to be
 composited on top of the existing connection icon, and the ones you drew
 are centered, thus they would obscure whatever connection icon was
 underneath.  Is that intended?  

Ok, one question, I don't have a VPN to connect to so I just drew up
icons to replace the existing ones, I didn't realise that a composite
would be made... Could you send me an SVG of the layers in the existing
composite so I can have a poke at it?

 Any chance you could see what they look
 like with the padlock in the lower-right corner instead?

If I can see the composite :)

   The progress
 circle might need to be darker (or have a color and a bit more
 saturation) so that it stands out against the blue of the WiFi signal
 bars, not sure exactly how you might want to do that.

The progress circle is supposed to be contrasting with both light and
dark themes so it is visible but not opaque, I could probably change it
so it remains contrasting but is a bit more opaque. I've been using
these icons for a few days now, and the thing that I really like about
them (even if I am blowing my own trumpet a little) is that instead of
two separate LED-a-like lights, we have one dot which goes from
translucent to yellow to green :) This also solves the problem you
mentioned earlier regarding the progress bar.

BR,
 K

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Re: New icons for nm-applet

2008-10-28 Thread Karl Lattimer
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 11:48 -0400, Dan Williams wrote:
 On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 15:27 +, Karl Lattimer wrote:
   Sorry about that, lots 'o mail.  I suck.  Yours look better, thanks :)
   
   One question though: the vpn connecting icons are intended to be
   composited on top of the existing connection icon, and the ones you drew
   are centered, thus they would obscure whatever connection icon was
   underneath.  Is that intended?  
  
  Ok, one question, I don't have a VPN to connect to so I just drew up
  icons to replace the existing ones, I didn't realise that a composite
  would be made... Could you send me an SVG of the layers in the existing
  composite so I can have a poke at it?
 
 Hmm, how would I do that?  Basically, the VPN lock is always composited
 into the lower-righthand corner of the large icon.  Everything else gets
 centered.  The existing VPN progress icons are built (with the lock
 positioned in the lower-right corner) so that they can just be smashed
 on top of the current icon and it'll all be positioned correctly.
 
 So match the size of the nm-vpn-connecting-* set to the same overall
 size as the applet icon area, but just offset the vpn lock itself so
 it's positioned in the lower-right corner.  The progress twirlie can
 probably stay where it is.
 
 Existing connection with VPN active:
 http://bigw.org/~dan/Screenshot.png

Now I get what you mean... Let me ponder this, I'll get back to you as
soon as I can see a good solution.

BR,
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Re: New icons for nm-applet

2008-10-28 Thread Karl Lattimer
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 16:07 +, Karl Lattimer wrote:
So match the size of the nm-vpn-connecting-* set to the same overall
size as the applet icon area, but just offset the vpn lock itself so
it's positioned in the lower-right corner.  The progress twirlie can
probably stay where it is.

Existing connection with VPN active:
http://bigw.org/~dan/Screenshot.png
   
   Now I get what you mean... Let me ponder this, I'll get back to you as
   soon as I can see a good solution.
  
  Great, hope it's soon :)  I'd think just moving the padlock down and to
  the right in the existing images would be just fine.
 
 Probably, but I'd rather do some sketches of some other ideas, I mean
 it's only one image which is used as an overlay, so that one could be
 fixed easily, but I'm thinking now in terms of the progress meter for
 vpn.
 
 Maybe if we are moving the padlock down, then I could use icons which
 are similar to the standard connecting animation but instead of a dot a
 keyhole or something instead.
 
 I'm mulling it, there's some space for flexibility. 
 
 Hopefully i can knock up some updated icons today, and while i'm at it
 classify them into sizes for 16,22 and 24

Actually as the padlock is composited we could probably benefit from
compositing the icons for gsm/gprs, edge, umts, hsdpa and anything else
that comes along, maybe the recently submitted patch should be updated
to work in these terms?

BR,
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Re: New icons for nm-applet

2008-10-28 Thread Karl Lattimer
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 12:50 -0400, Dan Williams wrote:
 On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 16:11 +, Karl Lattimer wrote:
  On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 16:07 +, Karl Lattimer wrote:
  So match the size of the nm-vpn-connecting-* set to the same overall
  size as the applet icon area, but just offset the vpn lock itself so
  it's positioned in the lower-right corner.  The progress twirlie can
  probably stay where it is.
  
  Existing connection with VPN active:
  http://bigw.org/~dan/Screenshot.png
 
 Now I get what you mean... Let me ponder this, I'll get back to you as
 soon as I can see a good solution.

Great, hope it's soon :)  I'd think just moving the padlock down and to
the right in the existing images would be just fine.
   
   Probably, but I'd rather do some sketches of some other ideas, I mean
   it's only one image which is used as an overlay, so that one could be
   fixed easily, but I'm thinking now in terms of the progress meter for
   vpn.
   
   Maybe if we are moving the padlock down, then I could use icons which
   are similar to the standard connecting animation but instead of a dot a
   keyhole or something instead.
   
   I'm mulling it, there's some space for flexibility. 
   
   Hopefully i can knock up some updated icons today, and while i'm at it
   classify them into sizes for 16,22 and 24
  
  Actually as the padlock is composited we could probably benefit from
  compositing the icons for gsm/gprs, edge, umts, hsdpa and anything else
  that comes along, maybe the recently submitted patch should be updated
  to work in these terms?
 
 Yes, that's what I replied to it with.  The code has layers, and there
 are currently two layers: device and VPN.  We can certainly add a mobile
 broadband layer in which the mobile broadband badge goes.  Just need to
 figure out where in the icon area that should go so it doesn't conflict
 with the VPN lock.  Because you certainly can have an active VPN over
 cellular.

Urgh, now we're starting to have problems... Colours are obviously going
to be better as long as there is detailed explanation somewhere of what
they mean. Mockups attached for discussion. 

vpn-umts.svg - My first impression of this is that it's starting to get
crowded, and I can make the padlock smaller but loose detail which I
feel is critical. 

vpn-umts2.svg - Slightly less crowded and more appealing I feel, only
3px tall to denote the technology, so we'll have to use vibrant colours
which aren't in the tango palette :/

BR,
 K
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Re: New icons for nm-applet

2008-10-28 Thread Karl Lattimer
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 17:11 +, Karl Lattimer wrote:
 On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 12:50 -0400, Dan Williams wrote:
  On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 16:11 +, Karl Lattimer wrote:
   On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 16:07 +, Karl Lattimer wrote:
   So match the size of the nm-vpn-connecting-* set to the same 
   overall
   size as the applet icon area, but just offset the vpn lock itself 
   so
   it's positioned in the lower-right corner.  The progress twirlie 
   can
   probably stay where it is.
   
   Existing connection with VPN active:
   http://bigw.org/~dan/Screenshot.png
  
  Now I get what you mean... Let me ponder this, I'll get back to you 
  as
  soon as I can see a good solution.
 
 Great, hope it's soon :)  I'd think just moving the padlock down and 
 to
 the right in the existing images would be just fine.

Probably, but I'd rather do some sketches of some other ideas, I mean
it's only one image which is used as an overlay, so that one could be
fixed easily, but I'm thinking now in terms of the progress meter for
vpn.

Maybe if we are moving the padlock down, then I could use icons which
are similar to the standard connecting animation but instead of a dot a
keyhole or something instead.

I'm mulling it, there's some space for flexibility. 

Hopefully i can knock up some updated icons today, and while i'm at it
classify them into sizes for 16,22 and 24
   
   Actually as the padlock is composited we could probably benefit from
   compositing the icons for gsm/gprs, edge, umts, hsdpa and anything else
   that comes along, maybe the recently submitted patch should be updated
   to work in these terms?
  
  Yes, that's what I replied to it with.  The code has layers, and there
  are currently two layers: device and VPN.  We can certainly add a mobile
  broadband layer in which the mobile broadband badge goes.  Just need to
  figure out where in the icon area that should go so it doesn't conflict
  with the VPN lock.  Because you certainly can have an active VPN over
  cellular.
 
 Urgh, now we're starting to have problems... Colours are obviously going
 to be better as long as there is detailed explanation somewhere of what
 they mean. Mockups attached for discussion. 
 
 vpn-umts.svg - My first impression of this is that it's starting to get
 crowded, and I can make the padlock smaller but loose detail which I
 feel is critical. 
 
 vpn-umts2.svg - Slightly less crowded and more appealing I feel, only
 3px tall to denote the technology, so we'll have to use vibrant colours
 which aren't in the tango palette :/

Thinking in these terms now, and maybe the signal strength bars can be
altered too...

K,

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Re: New icons for nm-applet

2008-10-28 Thread Karl Lattimer
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 18:47 +0100, Björn Martensen wrote:
 On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 17:22 +, Karl Lattimer wrote:
  On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 17:11 +, Karl Lattimer wrote:
   On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 12:50 -0400, Dan Williams wrote:
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 16:11 +, Karl Lattimer wrote:
 On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 16:07 +, Karl Lattimer wrote:
 So match the size of the nm-vpn-connecting-* set to the same 
 overall
 size as the applet icon area, but just offset the vpn lock 
 itself so
 it's positioned in the lower-right corner.  The progress 
 twirlie can
 probably stay where it is.
 
 Existing connection with VPN active:
 http://bigw.org/~dan/Screenshot.png

Now I get what you mean... Let me ponder this, I'll get back to 
you as
soon as I can see a good solution.
   
   Great, hope it's soon :)  I'd think just moving the padlock down 
   and to
   the right in the existing images would be just fine.
  
  Probably, but I'd rather do some sketches of some other ideas, I 
  mean
  it's only one image which is used as an overlay, so that one could 
  be
  fixed easily, but I'm thinking now in terms of the progress meter 
  for
  vpn.
  
  Maybe if we are moving the padlock down, then I could use icons 
  which
  are similar to the standard connecting animation but instead of a 
  dot a
  keyhole or something instead.
  
  I'm mulling it, there's some space for flexibility. 
  
  Hopefully i can knock up some updated icons today, and while i'm at 
  it
  classify them into sizes for 16,22 and 24
 
 Actually as the padlock is composited we could probably benefit from
 compositing the icons for gsm/gprs, edge, umts, hsdpa and anything 
 else
 that comes along, maybe the recently submitted patch should be updated
 to work in these terms?

Yes, that's what I replied to it with.  The code has layers, and there
are currently two layers: device and VPN.  We can certainly add a mobile
broadband layer in which the mobile broadband badge goes.  Just need to
figure out where in the icon area that should go so it doesn't conflict
with the VPN lock.  Because you certainly can have an active VPN over
cellular.
   
   Urgh, now we're starting to have problems... Colours are obviously going
   to be better as long as there is detailed explanation somewhere of what
   they mean. Mockups attached for discussion. 
   
   vpn-umts.svg - My first impression of this is that it's starting to get
   crowded, and I can make the padlock smaller but loose detail which I
   feel is critical. 
   
   vpn-umts2.svg - Slightly less crowded and more appealing I feel, only
   3px tall to denote the technology, so we'll have to use vibrant colours
   which aren't in the tango palette :/
  
  Thinking in these terms now, and maybe the signal strength bars can be
  altered too...
 
 this is just my own opinion, but i kinda like the icon style that looks
 a bit more like radio waves [1] better as they are symmetrical and look
 more like something is transmitted over the air than the current bars
 that stand next to each other, aligned at the bottom.
 i'd like to see such icons in NM and would like to know your opinion on
 this.

This is a good design, but I wonder about the apple-esque appearance...
It wouldn't be difficult for me to make up some new icons with that
design, and the padlock placement could end up being a little better, we
could also look at having the bars different colours to specify
different network types wifi, gprs etc... Of course this wouldn't be
ideal in code, but we could work around that i believe.

BR,
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New icons for nm-applet

2008-10-27 Thread Karl Lattimer
Hi there,

I've always loathed the icons shipped with fedora for network manager,
they just don't seem to fit with our current gnome look. 

Over the weekend I sat and drew up some new icons, they're inspired a
bit by jimmac's new icons for suse as seen here
http://jimmac.musichall.cz/i.php?i=NetworkManager

I've only done these icons in 24x24 but could do 22x22 and 16x16 if
asked *really* nicely :)

In order to use these icons however I had to hack network manager a
little, changing the number of frames to 8 and the frame delay to around
200/150 for best results. 

I hope you consider updating the icon theme for network manager, and
possibly including these ones. 

I've also noticed that network manager has a tendency to pick to wrong
icon sizes, if you have 96x96 as the only icons in an icon theme for
instance network manager will choose those rather than the 22x22 or
24x24 icons. This leads to blurry icons.

Hope this helps, and hope you like the icons :)

You can grab the icons from here;
http://www.wine-doors.org/releases/nm-applet-icons.tar.gz 

BR,
 K

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