Re: D-Bus permissions on Debian-based systems

2008-05-23 Thread Kenneth Crudup

On Fri, 23 May 2008, Dan Williams wrote:

> I spent half of yesterday banging my head on a desk trying to get the
> D-Bus permissions correct for Ubuntu 8.04.

Whew. This makes my day, 'cause I had the same issues (but knowing nothing
about D-Bus before I'd loaded this distro a couple of weeks ago) was sure
it was my fault!

The rest of us Debian/Ubuntu people trying to use the SVN are going to be
glad once it's all figured out!

-Kenny

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Re: netmanager problems with ubuntu 8.04

2008-05-18 Thread Kenneth Crudup

On Sun, 18 May 2008, Darren Albers wrote:

> I think those packages are somewhat old

Ah. That might explain why while those packages loaded OK and I could
see the wired and wireless networks, it couldn't connect to any of my
WPA2 access points.

I've given up on NM anyway- I've just taken to running wpa_supplicant
and dhcpcd by hand, which works reliably.

-Kenny

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Re: netmanager problems with ubuntu 8.04

2008-05-17 Thread Kenneth Crudup

On Sun, 18 May 2008, Eric S. Johansson wrote:

> ... but ends up with me trying networkmanager 0.7.  must say that with
> backported modules, wifi works great again.  I am most grateful.

What did you do?! I've been unable to get it to work from the SVN.

-Kenny

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Re: Error when building from svn

2008-05-12 Thread Kenneth Crudup

On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 8:11 PM, Michael Biebl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Ubuntu might sync the Debian dbus-glib 0.74-4 version from Debian:
> > http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/d/dbus-glib/current/changelog

On Thu, 8 May 2008, Darren Albers wrote:

> Good catch, I was going to build a package myself but this will be
> easier.  Thanks!

Ubuntu and eebian can share the same .deb packages, right (individual distro
changes/customizations notwithstanding, of course)?

(... and if so, where could I get a real .deb of the above?)

-Kenny

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Any success stories with latest SVNs on Ubuntu 8.04?

2008-05-12 Thread Kenneth Crudup

... anyone?

I've been pulling SVN regularly, applied all the Ubuntu-specific patches
or changes I could find, and yet I can't get this thing to let me select
what wired or wireless network I want via nm-applet.

All I get are grayed-out entries for "Wired" and "Wireless Networks",
nm-applet sometimes saves the networks I create, and sometimes not, and
in either case nm-applet doesn't see them as connection possibilities.

I used those files Tambet sent me and they're not seen by nm-applet.
I've even gone so far as to change anything that says "deny" related
to NM in /etc/dbus-1/system.d to "allow", nothing.

If anyone's got this running the SVN stuff running on a recent Ubuntu
build, *please* let me know.  I've been doing SW for a long time, but
I'm stuck. /etc/network/interfaces is wiped out save "auto lo".

Is there anything more to pull down than gnome-common, NetworkManager
and network-manager-applet?

I do have a wired connection and it's running, but it didn't come out
of being selected by nm-applet.

Also, why is it constantly trying to "start the supplicant" (even on an
active wired connection), and evidently failing (and I've updated
wpa_supplicant to v0.5.10).

Thanks guys,

-Kenny

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Re: Is NetworkManager ready for servers with may interfaces?

2008-05-06 Thread Kenneth Crudup

On Mon, 5 May 2008, Dan Williams wrote:

> http://live.gnome.org/NetworkManagerConfigurationSpecification

I'm still not quite sure how these end up in text files, what the
filenames should be, nor what format. Can someone send me a tar file
of their /etc/NetworkManager/system_config/ directory, please?

-Kenny

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Re: Is NetworkManager ready for servers with may interfaces?

2008-05-06 Thread Kenneth Crudup

On Mon, 5 May 2008, Dan Williams wrote:

> To edit the connection files directly, use the values documented here:

> http://live.gnome.org/NetworkManagerConfigurationSpecification

Question: there's an "Edit Connections" dialog available in nm-applet;
is this the same thing? There seems to be some persistent information
stored (but still, "Wired Networks" and "Wireless Networks" are grayed
out despite a week's worth of trying ...)

-Kenny

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Re: Is NetworkManager ready for servers with may interfaces?

2008-05-05 Thread Kenneth Crudup

> > I hate to keep asking silly questions, but which/what distro config
> > tools won't I able to integrate with ...?

On Mon, 5 May 2008, Dan Williams wrote:

> ... and on Ubuntu it would be whatever config tool gets run when you
> do System -> Administration -> Networking or something like that.
> If you just use NM to manage your connections, then no, you do not care
> about this :)

... or, presumably, if I tend to manage connections on my own via text-
file editing?

Thanks,

-Kenny

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Re: Is NetworkManager ready for servers with may interfaces?

2008-05-04 Thread Kenneth Crudup

On Sun, 4 May 2008, Dan Williams wrote:

> Ubuntu/Debian doesn't have a native plugin yet, but you can use the
> KeyFile plugin if you like.

Thanks. (It's becoming obvious I couldn't have just scraped up an Ubuntu
NM 0.7 up on my own w/o a lot of help.)

My next stop was to grab some of the "rogue" .debs out there I've seen
for NM 0.7.X and disassemble one- take it apart, see the installed files
and the scripts then duplicate what I can.

> You just won't get integration with the distro config tools and
> whatnot, since the KeyFile plugin is a completely new config format.

I hate to keep asking silly questions, but which/what distro config
tools won't I able to integrate with, and will that be a problem if I
just use NM to manage my interfaces?

-Kenny

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Re: Is NetworkManager ready for servers with may interfaces?

2008-05-02 Thread Kenneth Crudup

>> Should I just make a symlink?

Well, that didn't work:


#  /usr/sbin/nm-system-settings --config /etc/nm-system-settings.conf

** (nm-system-settings:8687): WARNING **: Invalid config file: Key file 
contains line ' key).

-Kenny

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Re: Is NetworkManager ready for servers with may interfaces?

2008-05-02 Thread Kenneth Crudup

On Fri, 2 May 2008, Rui Tiago Cação Matos wrote:

> If you're wondering how [the system settings plugin] gets launched:
> $ less 
> /usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerSystemSettings.service
> i.e. it's automatically launched by DBus when NM needs it.

Thank you very much for this; I think I might have found one problem.
That file reads:


[D-BUS Service]
Name=org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerSystemSettings
Exec=/usr/sbin/nm-system-settings --config /etc/nm-system-settings.conf
User=root


... but there's no file "/etc/nm-system-settings.conf"; there's one
in the D-Bus directory, though:

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 902 2008-05-02 10:03 
/etc/dbus-1/system.d/nm-system-settings.conf

Should I just make a symlink?

-Kenny

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Re: Is NetworkManager ready for servers with may interfaces?

2008-05-02 Thread Kenneth Crudup

On Fri, 2 May 2008, Dan Williams wrote:

> If your distro has a system settings plugin

How does one determine this?

(FWIW, I'm running Ubuntu 8.04.)

-Kenny

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Documentation of all the various NM pieces and how they fit?

2008-05-01 Thread Kenneth Crudup

Is there a block diagram or the like out there? I'm sure by now that my
issues with not being able to manage any network connections are due to
some piece being missing, but I can't really tell what.

-Kenny

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Greyed-out "Wired/Wireless Networks" entries in NM

2008-05-01 Thread Kenneth Crudup

After having numerous issues with NM 0.6.6 that shipped with the Ubuntu
8.0.4 pre-release I'm running, I've grabbed the latest NM and nm-applet
from SVN. However, while I can add wired and wireless networks via
"Edit Networks", all the "network" entries when left-clicking on nm-applet
are grayed out and I can't connect to anything. I'm running the absolute
latest SVN (BTW, thanks for fixing that segfault from Tuesday, Dan!) and
running nm-applet and NetworkManager with --no-daemon don't turn up
anything much after startup, except quite a few of these:


NetworkManager:   Trying to start the supplicant...
NetworkManager:   Trying to start the system settings daemon...
---

A couple of questions:

- Should an "autogen"/"make"/"make" install on the various apps listed
  on the dev page (gnome-common/NM/nm-applet) be all that's necessary?
  I don't see where "NetworkManagerDispatcher" is being built, and I'm
  using the one from 0.6.6, which can't be right

- I had to make the change in /etc/dbus-1/system.d/nm-applet.conf to
  change the policy from "at_console" to "group=netdev" as I'd read on
  this list's archives. Is there anything else I'd need to do?

-Kenny

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