Re: Avoiding 3G roaming costs

2009-09-23 Thread Paul Hardwick

Gianluca Sforna wrote:

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Dan Williams  wrote:
  

We can hack something together with F11 perhaps, and on F12 it's even
easier.  You can try to enter your providers' MCC/MNC (a 6-digit number
for the US, 5 digits for everywhere else) in the connection editor in
the "Network" entry and NM will direct the modem to register *only* on
your providers network and thus not roam, but there are certainly
improvements we can do.



The obvious improvement I can think of, assuming the 5/6 digits codes
you mention are stored in the providers database, is to add a checkbox
"allow roaming" to the edit connection page... do we have such codes?
if not, where should I look for?

By the way, thanks for replying, I thought mailman redirected the
message to /dev/null ;)


  
Ideally the user should be warned when the registration state of the 
device becomes set to roaming. Roaming is a big an issue where a user 
operates within their own country but close to the border of another 
country (In Europe this is a significant issue). In poor signals 
conditions the foreign network can be found before the local network and 
the user will be roaming without leaving his country. When users 
persistently operate in these regions the usual recommendation is to 
manually select the network to their home network.


When you are deliberately travelling abroad you may also need to select 
the Service Provider to use. While most Service Providers allow their 
systems to be used for voice and SMS the data connections will often 
fail if there is no agreement between them and your Service Provider. 
Some of the larger Service Provider groups  use SIMs that intelligently 
manage registration for you with lookup tables etc  to ensure that only 
partner networks are used if available. But that is not universal for 
all SIMs.


Just to add a little insight ... I have a UK Vodafone account.and I 
have noticed that when I roam from the UK to Belgium my Vodafone SIM 
will keep me connected to Proximus (the local Vodafone group member) if 
possible and when I query the registration state I am not roaming but it 
is a different MNC. But I am charged a higher tariff for data! If I 
travel to a location in Belgium where Proximus is not available then my 
phone will register with one of the other two networks. The tarifs are 
*much* higher and one of them cannot support 3G data at all and refuses 
to make the data connection.





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Re: Avoiding 3G roaming costs

2009-09-23 Thread Gianluca Sforna
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Dan Williams  wrote:
> We can hack something together with F11 perhaps, and on F12 it's even
> easier.  You can try to enter your providers' MCC/MNC (a 6-digit number
> for the US, 5 digits for everywhere else) in the connection editor in
> the "Network" entry and NM will direct the modem to register *only* on
> your providers network and thus not roam, but there are certainly
> improvements we can do.

The obvious improvement I can think of, assuming the 5/6 digits codes
you mention are stored in the providers database, is to add a checkbox
"allow roaming" to the edit connection page... do we have such codes?
if not, where should I look for?

By the way, thanks for replying, I thought mailman redirected the
message to /dev/null ;)


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Re: Avoiding 3G roaming costs

2009-09-22 Thread Dan Williams
On Thu, 2009-08-27 at 15:14 +0200, Gianluca Sforna wrote:
> Hi,
> I recently bought from a Huawei based USB dongle and it seems
> NetworkManager works pretty well with it; however I later discovered I
> dried out my account's credit (it's a prepaid contract) by attempting
> the connection in a place not covered by the network (so the roaming
> tariff applied).
> 
> I think I've read somewhere newer NM builds should support selecting
> the network (so I assume I could avoid the roaming costs by fixing the
> network to use) but I can find anything like that in my Fedora 11 nor
> in the F12alpha LiveCD I tried. Any hint at where I should look?

We can hack something together with F11 perhaps, and on F12 it's even
easier.  You can try to enter your providers' MCC/MNC (a 6-digit number
for the US, 5 digits for everywhere else) in the connection editor in
the "Network" entry and NM will direct the modem to register *only* on
your providers network and thus not roam, but there are certainly
improvements we can do.

dan


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Avoiding 3G roaming costs

2009-08-27 Thread Gianluca Sforna
Hi,
I recently bought from a Huawei based USB dongle and it seems
NetworkManager works pretty well with it; however I later discovered I
dried out my account's credit (it's a prepaid contract) by attempting
the connection in a place not covered by the network (so the roaming
tariff applied).

I think I've read somewhere newer NM builds should support selecting
the network (so I assume I could avoid the roaming costs by fixing the
network to use) but I can find anything like that in my Fedora 11 nor
in the F12alpha LiveCD I tried. Any hint at where I should look?

TIA

Gianluca

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