Re: disconnecting from current wifi network
Ok; what's the use-case here? If you're not connected to a wireless network, you're not using the device, and not much useful can be done with it. If you'd like to use it for sniffing or monitor mode or whatever, you want to unmanage the device from NM. Personally, I just want to be disconnected but able to reconnect fast. There are a lot of What-Ifs to it as well, such as being offline and wanting to see if a friend's Wifi is online, etc... Unmanaging the device is not a solution in this case, since I want to be able to reconnect fast when I feel like it. You shouldn't need to unplug your wifi adapter, disable wireless should be enough. If it's not, then your driver needs to be fixed. Disabling Wireless and reenabling it automatically reconnects me to the last used network, unless it doesn't detect a connection - that's what I could gather from it. The real question is how this plays with automatic connection. Currently, if you were to tear down that connection, NM would simply re-activate it, because that AP is available and it's likely the best connection to use. Were NM to somehow mark that connection, and not re-connect automatically, that's just confusing, because the connection probably has autoconnect set to TRUE, but NM isn't autoconnecting to it. When you want to connect to the network again, what do you do? How does the connection get back to reconnect automatically? I understand. What I was thinking of was simply temporarily setting autoconnect to false, until next connection. I guess I'd need to hear more about the use-cases. It seems like you do want to set Wireless Enabled to off. Wireless off is not what I want, for reasons you described above. For myself, it's nowhere near important; but I wouldn't be here writing this mail if I didn't see it popular on UBS :) -- Adys ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Disconnecting from current wifi network
Hi! I haven't been following this list for very long - apologies in advance since this subject probably already came up. For multiple reasons, I may want to disconnect from my current wifi network without connecting to another one, but keeping wireless on. Doing so currently requires me to disable wireless, unplug my wifi key, replug my wifi key, reenable wireless. Seeing it recently came up as popular on the Ubuntu Brainstorm website (http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/8612/), I guess I'm not the only one having such problems. Are there any plans to add this little feature? If not - why, and can it be added externally? Thanks -- Adys ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: Disconnecting from current wifi network
On Fri, 2008-05-16 at 11:22 +0200, Jerome Leclanche wrote: Hi! I haven't been following this list for very long - apologies in advance since this subject probably already came up. For multiple reasons, I may want to disconnect from my current wifi network without connecting to another one, but keeping wireless on. Ok; what's the use-case here? If you're not connected to a wireless network, you're not using the device, and not much useful can be done with it. If you'd like to use it for sniffing or monitor mode or whatever, you want to unmanage the device from NM. Doing so currently requires me to disable wireless, unplug my wifi key, replug my wifi key, reenable wireless. You shouldn't need to unplug your wifi adapter, disable wireless should be enough. If it's not, then your driver needs to be fixed. Seeing it recently came up as popular on the Ubuntu Brainstorm website (http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/8612/), I guess I'm not the only one having such problems. Are there any plans to add this little feature? If not - why, and can it be added externally? The current applet doesn't really lend itself to this; but reworking some aspects of the applet would make it more feasible. The real question is how this plays with automatic connection. Currently, if you were to tear down that connection, NM would simply re-activate it, because that AP is available and it's likely the best connection to use. Were NM to somehow mark that connection, and not re-connect automatically, that's just confusing, because the connection probably has autoconnect set to TRUE, but NM isn't autoconnecting to it. When you want to connect to the network again, what do you do? How does the connection get back to reconnect automatically? The problem is that most things people can come up with for this problem are not simple. They will result in unexpected, quirky, hidden behavior. We already had something like this in earlier 0.6 versions, where if you manually chose a device from the menu, NM would stick with that device even if you unplugged the wired cable. This was because people wanted a bit of lag time to plug/replug the cable when moving rooms or whatever before NM tore the device down. Turned out to be really confusing for most people, because NM wasn't automatically switch devices around when the cable got pulled. I guess I'd need to hear more about the use-cases. It seems like you do want to set Wireless Enabled to off. Dan ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
