Re: Explanation of killswitch related messages.

2007-09-21 Thread Dan Williams
On Fri, 2007-09-21 at 03:07 +0200, MartinG wrote:
 On 9/20/07, Aaron Konstam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Things got much clearer to me when I ran:
  dellWirelessCtl -i
 
 Aha!
 This is what I get on my Dell Latitude X1 (using the ipw2200 driver):
 
 # dellWirelessCtl -i
 Libsmbios version  : 0.13.10
 dellWirelessCtl version: 0.3.0
 Wireless Info not supported on this system.
 
 Wireless Switch Configuration not available on this system.
 
 BIOS Boot-time settings (new interface):
 Wireless_Switch_Cellular_Control_Enable: (NOT SUPPORTED)
 Wireless_Switch_Cellular_Control_Disable: (NOT SUPPORTED)
 Wireless_Switch_Bluetooth_Control_Enable: (NOT SUPPORTED)
 Wireless_Switch_Bluetooth_Control_Disable: (NOT SUPPORTED)
 Wireless_Switch_Wireless_LAN_Control_Enable: (NOT SUPPORTED)
 Wireless_Switch_Wireless_LAN_Control_Disable: (NOT SUPPORTED)
 WiFi_Locator_Enable: (NOT SUPPORTED)
 WiFi_Locator_Disable: (NOT SUPPORTED)
 Cellular_Radio_Enable: (NOT SUPPORTED)
 Cellular_Radio_Disable: (NOT SUPPORTED)
 Bluetooth_Devices_Enable: 0
 Bluetooth_Devices_Disable: 1
 Wireless_LAN_Enable: (NOT SUPPORTED)
 Wireless_LAN_Disable: (NOT SUPPORTED)
 
 BIOS Boot-time settings (old interface):
 Radio_Transmission_Enable: 1
 Radio_Transmission_Disable: 0
 Wireless_Device_Disable: 0
 Wireless_Device_App_Control: 0
 Wireless_Device_App_Or_Hotkey_Control: 1
 
 
 
 So I guess NetworkManager should check for this, and stop spitting out
 all this messages.

Ideally, the HAL device for a killswitch wouldn't _exist_ in HAL if it
wasn't supported.

Dan

 best regards,
 MartinG
 
 PS: I run a really old A02 BIOS on my X1, as the newer versions will
 lock the laptop at 600MHz after half an hour usage (normal is 1.1
 GHz). I have contacted Dell about that problem, and given extensive
 debugging data, but got no response back.
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Re: Explanation of killswitch related messages.

2007-09-20 Thread MartinG
On 9/20/07, Brian Millett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Aaron Konstam escribío:
  Well I reinstalled libsmbios but am still getting the killswitch
  messages in slightly different form:
 
  --Sep 19 17:58:08 cyrus yum: Updated: httpd.i386 2.2.6-1.fc7
  Sep 19 17:58:13 cyrus NetworkManager: info  Error getting killswitch
  power: org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.KillSwitch.NotSupported -
  dellWirelessCtl returned 4
  Sep 19 17:58:44 cyrus last message repeated 5 times
 
  So now what?

 The dellWirelessCtl is part of the:

 # rpm -qf /usr/bin/dellWirelessCtl
 libsmbios-bin-0.13.10-1.fc7
 package.

I'm not sure I follow: I get the same kind of message, even though I
have libsmbios-bin and libsmbios-libs installed (see my previous
message in this same thread):

#  rpm -qf /usr/bin/dellWirelessCtl
libsmbios-bin-0.13.10-1.fc7

# rpm -qa libsmbios\*
libsmbios-bin-0.13.10-1.fc7
libsmbios-libs-0.13.10-1.fc7

# tail -n30 -f /var/log/messages
Sep 20 21:41:06 x1 NetworkManager: info  Error getting killswitch
power: org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.KillSwitch.NotSupported -
dellWirelessCtl returned 4
Sep 20 21:41:11 x1 ntpd[10277]: synchronized to 195.139.204.141, stratum 3
Sep 20 21:41:13 x1 NetworkManager: info  Error getting killswitch
power: org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.KillSwitch.NotSupported -
dellWirelessCtl returned 4
Sep 20 21:41:44 x1 last message repeated 5 times
Sep 20 21:42:46 x1 last message repeated 10 times
...
Sep 20 22:06:33 x1 last message repeated 10 times

And just to repeat the info from my previous message for clarity:

# lsmod|grep dcdbas
dcdbas 12257  0

# cat /etc/rc.local
#!/bin/sh
touch /var/lock/subsys/local
modprobe cpufreq-powersave
modprobe  dcdbas
service haldaemon restart

# uname -a
Linux x1 2.6.22.5-76.fc7 #1 SMP Thu Aug 30 13:47:21 EDT 2007 i686 i686
i386 GNU/Linux

# rpm -q NetworkManager knetworkmanager
NetworkManager-0.6.5-7.fc7
knetworkmanager-0.2-0.1.svn20070815.fc7


I have now also done a clean reboot after I installed libsmbios*.

I would be happy to provide more info and try to debug this problem.

Best regards,
MartinG
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Re: Explanation of killswitch related messages.

2007-09-20 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Thu, 2007-09-20 at 22:15 +0200, MartinG wrote:
 On 9/20/07, Brian Millett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Aaron Konstam escribío:
   Well I reinstalled libsmbios but am still getting the killswitch
   messages in slightly different form:
  
   --Sep 19 17:58:08 cyrus yum: Updated: httpd.i386 2.2.6-1.fc7
   Sep 19 17:58:13 cyrus NetworkManager: info  Error getting
 killswitch
   power: org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.KillSwitch.NotSupported -
   dellWirelessCtl returned 4
   Sep 19 17:58:44 cyrus last message repeated 5 times
  
   So now what?
 
  The dellWirelessCtl is part of the:
 
  # rpm -qf /usr/bin/dellWirelessCtl
  libsmbios-bin-0.13.10-1.fc7
  package.
 
 I'm not sure I follow: I get the same kind of message, even though I
 have libsmbios-bin and libsmbios-libs installed (see my previous
 message in this same thread):
 
 #  rpm -qf /usr/bin/dellWirelessCtl
 libsmbios-bin-0.13.10-1.fc7 
Things got much clearer to me when I ran:
dellWirelessCtl -i

I found that most of the functionality of this program is not supported
my BIOS. Maybe a new BIOS is needed. Run this program and see what you
get.
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Re: Explanation of killswitch related messages.

2007-09-20 Thread MartinG
On 9/20/07, Aaron Konstam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Things got much clearer to me when I ran:
 dellWirelessCtl -i

Aha!
This is what I get on my Dell Latitude X1 (using the ipw2200 driver):

# dellWirelessCtl -i
Libsmbios version  : 0.13.10
dellWirelessCtl version: 0.3.0
Wireless Info not supported on this system.

Wireless Switch Configuration not available on this system.

BIOS Boot-time settings (new interface):
Wireless_Switch_Cellular_Control_Enable: (NOT SUPPORTED)
Wireless_Switch_Cellular_Control_Disable: (NOT SUPPORTED)
Wireless_Switch_Bluetooth_Control_Enable: (NOT SUPPORTED)
Wireless_Switch_Bluetooth_Control_Disable: (NOT SUPPORTED)
Wireless_Switch_Wireless_LAN_Control_Enable: (NOT SUPPORTED)
Wireless_Switch_Wireless_LAN_Control_Disable: (NOT SUPPORTED)
WiFi_Locator_Enable: (NOT SUPPORTED)
WiFi_Locator_Disable: (NOT SUPPORTED)
Cellular_Radio_Enable: (NOT SUPPORTED)
Cellular_Radio_Disable: (NOT SUPPORTED)
Bluetooth_Devices_Enable: 0
Bluetooth_Devices_Disable: 1
Wireless_LAN_Enable: (NOT SUPPORTED)
Wireless_LAN_Disable: (NOT SUPPORTED)

BIOS Boot-time settings (old interface):
Radio_Transmission_Enable: 1
Radio_Transmission_Disable: 0
Wireless_Device_Disable: 0
Wireless_Device_App_Control: 0
Wireless_Device_App_Or_Hotkey_Control: 1



So I guess NetworkManager should check for this, and stop spitting out
all this messages.

best regards,
MartinG

PS: I run a really old A02 BIOS on my X1, as the newer versions will
lock the laptop at 600MHz after half an hour usage (normal is 1.1
GHz). I have contacted Dell about that problem, and given extensive
debugging data, but got no response back.
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Re: Explanation of killswitch related messages.

2007-09-19 Thread Brian Millett
Aaron Konstam escribío:
 I sometimes think I understand the killswitch problem with NM but
 obviously I don't. What is the implication of the following lines
 from /var/log/messages in F7? NM works for me but these messages make me
 think I am missing something.
 
 Sep 19 08:03:38 cyrus NetworkManager: info  Error getting killswitch
 power: org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.KillSwitch.NotSupported - Access type
 not supported
 Sep 19 08:04:14 cyrus last message repeated 6 times

What is happening is the /usr/bin/dellWirelessCtl is what is being called and it
needs the dcdbas module to be loaded.  Since it is not, then the message.

Look here for libsmbios-bin-0.13.6-1.fc7:

http://linux.dell.com/libsmbios/main/

[bpm]$ rpm -ql libsmbios-bin-0.13.6-1.fc7
/usr/bin/assetTag
/usr/bin/dellBiosUpdate
/usr/bin/dellLcdBrightness
/usr/bin/dellWirelessCtl
/usr/bin/getSystemId
/usr/bin/propertyTag
/usr/bin/serviceTag
/usr/bin/tokenCtl
/usr/bin/verifySmiPassword
/usr/bin/wakeupCtl
/usr/share/doc/libsmbios-bin-0.13.6
/usr/share/doc/libsmbios-bin-0.13.6/COPYING-GPL
/usr/share/doc/libsmbios-bin-0.13.6/COPYING-OSL
/usr/share/doc/libsmbios-bin-0.13.6/README
/usr/share/doc/libsmbios-bin-0.13.6/getopts_LICENSE.txt

I've added:

modprobe dcdbas

to /etc/rc.local so it gets loaded at boot.

Then the messages not only go away, but toggling the wireless kill switch works.
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Re: Explanation of killswitch related messages.

2007-09-19 Thread Rogue
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Hi Brian,

Brian Millett wrote:
 Aaron Konstam escribío:
 
 What is happening is the /usr/bin/dellWirelessCtl is what is being called and 
 it
 needs the dcdbas module to be loaded.  Since it is not, then the message.
 
 Look here for libsmbios-bin-0.13.6-1.fc7:
 
 http://linux.dell.com/libsmbios/main/

Amazing, I wasn't aware of this :-) Thank you for enlightening me.

 
 [bpm]$ rpm -ql libsmbios-bin-0.13.6-1.fc7

Got it.

 I've added:
 
 modprobe dcdbas

Did that!

 
 to /etc/rc.local so it gets loaded at boot.
 
 Then the messages not only go away, but toggling the wireless kill switch 
 works.

Unfortunately, no :-( ... Now I see the following error message:

Sep 19 23:13:12 Xymnotune NetworkManager: info  Error getting
killswitch power: org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.KillSwitch.NotSupported -
dellWirelessCtl returned 4

And that is what keeps repeating.

Any ideas of what I can do to get around it?

thanks,
Rogue

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libsmbios-bin-0.13.10-1.fc7
NetworkManager-0.6.5-7.fc7
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Re: Explanation of killswitch related messages.

2007-09-19 Thread Brian Millett
Rogue escribío:
 Hi Brian,
 
 Brian Millett wrote:
 Aaron Konstam escribío:
 What is happening is the /usr/bin/dellWirelessCtl is what is being called 
 and it
 needs the dcdbas module to be loaded.  Since it is not, then the message.
 
 Look here for libsmbios-bin-0.13.6-1.fc7:
 
 http://linux.dell.com/libsmbios/main/
 
 Amazing, I wasn't aware of this :-) Thank you for enlightening me.
 
 [bpm]$ rpm -ql libsmbios-bin-0.13.6-1.fc7
 
 Got it.
 
 I've added:
 
 modprobe dcdbas
 
 Did that!
 
 to /etc/rc.local so it gets loaded at boot.
 
 Then the messages not only go away, but toggling the wireless kill switch 
 works.
 
 Unfortunately, no :-( ... Now I see the following error message:
 
 Sep 19 23:13:12 Xymnotune NetworkManager: info  Error getting
 killswitch power: org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.KillSwitch.NotSupported -
 dellWirelessCtl returned 4
 
 And that is what keeps repeating.
 
 Any ideas of what I can do to get around it?
 
 thanks,
 Rogue
 
 libsmbios-libs-0.13.10-1.fc7
 libsmbios-bin-0.13.10-1.fc7
 NetworkManager-0.6.5-7.fc7

1) make sure that the dcdbas is loaded by doing a 'lsmod | grep dcdbas'
if not, then do 'modprobe dcdbas'

2) make sure that the killswitch is turned on in the bios.

You do have a dell?  I don't have bluetooth on my d820, but I had to make sure
that the switch was enabled in the bios.

3) what does '/usr/bin/dellWirelessCtl --version' return?

Libsmbios version:0.13.10
dellWirelessCtl version: 0.3.0

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Re: Explanation of killswitch related messages.

2007-09-19 Thread MartinG
Similar problem here, on a Dell Latitude X1:
# uname -a
Linux x1 2.6.22.5-76.fc7 #1 SMP Thu Aug 30 13:47:21 EDT 2007 i686 i686
i386 GNU/Linux

# cat /etc/rc.local
#!/bin/sh
touch /var/lock/subsys/local
modprobe cpufreq-powersave
modprobe  dcdbas
service haldaemon restart

# lsmod|grep dcdbas
dcdbas 12257  0

# tail /var/log/messages
Sep 19 20:08:28 x1 NetworkManager:  info   Error getting killswitch
power: org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.KillSwitch.NotSupported - Access
type not supported
Sep 19 20:09:04 x1 last message repeated 6 times
Sep 19 20:10:10 x1 last message repeated 11 times
...

# rpm -q libsmbios-bin
(not installed)

So I went ahead and installed it:
# wget -q -O - http://linux.dell.com/repo/software/bootstrap.cgi | bash
(what a stupid way to install a yum repo! Piping a web-page to bash...
I actually saved the script, and had a brief look at it before I ran
it.)

# yum install libsmbios-bin
# rpm -qa libsmbios\*
libsmbios-bin-0.13.10-1.fc7
libsmbios-libs-0.13.10-1.fc7

Now, my /var/log/messages reads:
Sep 19 20:49:07 x1 NetworkManager:  info   Error getting killswitch
power: org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.KillSwitch.NotSupported -
dellWirelessCtl returned 4
Sep 19 20:49:38 x1 last message repeated 5 times
Sep 19 20:50:40 x1 last message repeated 10 times

So, I tried to restart 'haldaemon', and used the killswitch (Fn-F2) to
turn wireless off and on, but the message didn't go away.

I also tried restarting 'NetworkManager':
# service NetworkManager restart
But that didn't help either. I have
NetworkManager-0.6.5-7.fc7
knetworkmanager-0.2-0.1.svn20070815.fc7

Anything else to try?

best regards
MartinG
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On 9/19/07, Rogue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Hi Brian,

 Brian Millett wrote:
  Aaron Konstam escribío:
 
  What is happening is the /usr/bin/dellWirelessCtl is what is being called 
  and it
  needs the dcdbas module to be loaded.  Since it is not, then the message.
 
  Look here for libsmbios-bin-0.13.6-1.fc7:
 
  http://linux.dell.com/libsmbios/main/

 Amazing, I wasn't aware of this :-) Thank you for enlightening me.

 
  [bpm]$ rpm -ql libsmbios-bin-0.13.6-1.fc7

 Got it.

  I've added:
 
  modprobe dcdbas

 Did that!

 
  to /etc/rc.local so it gets loaded at boot.
 
  Then the messages not only go away, but toggling the wireless kill switch 
  works.

 Unfortunately, no :-( ... Now I see the following error message:

 Sep 19 23:13:12 Xymnotune NetworkManager: info  Error getting
 killswitch power: org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.KillSwitch.NotSupported -
 dellWirelessCtl returned 4

 And that is what keeps repeating.

 Any ideas of what I can do to get around it?

 thanks,
 Rogue

 libsmbios-libs-0.13.10-1.fc7
 libsmbios-bin-0.13.10-1.fc7
 NetworkManager-0.6.5-7.fc7
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Re: Explanation of killswitch related messages.

2007-09-19 Thread Rogue
Hi Brian,

Brian Millett wrote:
 1) make sure that the dcdbas is loaded by doing a 'lsmod | grep dcdbas'
 if not, then do 'modprobe dcdbas'

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# lsmod | grep dcdbas
dcdbas 12257  0

 
 2) make sure that the killswitch is turned on in the bios.

I think it is on, cause, I can turn it on/off using Fn + F2

 
 You do have a dell?  I don't have bluetooth on my d820, but I had to make sure
 that the switch was enabled in the bios.

Yup, Dell D810

 
 3) what does '/usr/bin/dellWirelessCtl --version' return?
 
 Libsmbios version:0.13.10
 dellWirelessCtl version: 0.3.0

Same here!

Any more ideas?

thanks,
Rogue
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Re: Explanation of killswitch related messages.

2007-09-19 Thread Brian Millett
Rogue escribío:
 Hi Brian,
 
 Brian Millett wrote:
 1) make sure that the dcdbas is loaded by doing a 'lsmod | grep dcdbas'
 if not, then do 'modprobe dcdbas'
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# lsmod | grep dcdbas
 dcdbas 12257  0
 
 2) make sure that the killswitch is turned on in the bios.
 
 I think it is on, cause, I can turn it on/off using Fn + F2
 
 You do have a dell?  I don't have bluetooth on my d820, but I had to make 
 sure
 that the switch was enabled in the bios.
 
 Yup, Dell D810
 
 3) what does '/usr/bin/dellWirelessCtl --version' return?

 Libsmbios version:0.13.10
 dellWirelessCtl version: 0.3.0
 
 Same here!
 
 Any more ideas?
 

Well, on the d820, the kill switch is on the side, a slide type switch.

I found this info:
http://lists.us.dell.com/pipermail/linux-desktops/2007-March/000231.html

I wonder if the dellWirelessCtl will only work on those who have a hardware
switch.  So maybe the real answer is to create your own /usr/bin/dellWirelessCtl
that does nothing so the error message goes away.

I guess I'm fresh out of ideas.

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Re: Explanation of killswitch related messages.

2007-09-19 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Wed, 2007-09-19 at 21:10 +0200, MartinG wrote:
 Similar problem here, on a Dell Latitude X1:
 # uname -a
 Linux x1 2.6.22.5-76.fc7 #1 SMP Thu Aug 30 13:47:21 EDT 2007 i686 i686
 i386 GNU/Linux
 
 # cat /etc/rc.local
 #!/bin/sh
 touch /var/lock/subsys/local
 modprobe cpufreq-powersave
 modprobe  dcdbas
 service haldaemon restart
 
 # lsmod|grep dcdbas
 dcdbas 12257  0
 
 # tail /var/log/messages
 Sep 19 20:08:28 x1 NetworkManager:  info   Error getting killswitch
 power: org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.KillSwitch.NotSupported - Access
 type not supported
 Sep 19 20:09:04 x1 last message repeated 6 times
 Sep 19 20:10:10 x1 last message repeated 11 times
 ...
 
 # rpm -q libsmbios-bin
 (not installed)
 
 So I went ahead and installed it:
 # wget -q -O - http://linux.dell.com/repo/software/bootstrap.cgi | bash
 (what a stupid way to install a yum repo! Piping a web-page to bash...
 I actually saved the script, and had a brief look at it before I ran
 it.)

 
Now I have really fouled UP:
I have a dell Latitude D810
I installed the modprobe dcdbas
I installed libsmbios  using the  wget above.
 /usr/bin/dellWirelessCtl --version produces no meaningfull result. 
/usr/bin/dellWirelessCtl  does not exist.

I have noting in BIOS that calls itself a killswitch but there is an
option to turn wireless on and off using Fn-F2. I assume that is the
software killswitch.

I still get the killswitch related messages in /var/log/messages.

Now I made a big mistake . I decided to re-install libsmbios . So I
removed it and tried the wget method again to reinstall it. That did not
work. I got a message this was already done and it will not be done
again.

So I haven't installed libsmbios and the errors are still there. What
worries me is that somewhere along the line I got a message that
libsmbios is needed by the haldaemon.

Anny help out there?

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Re: Explanation of killswitch related messages.

2007-09-19 Thread Aaron Konstam

  
 Now I have really fouled UP:
 I have a dell Latitude D810
 I installed the modprobe dcdbas
 I installed libsmbios  using the  wget above.
  /usr/bin/dellWirelessCtl --version produces no meaningfull result. 
 /usr/bin/dellWirelessCtl  does not exist.
 
 I have noting in BIOS that calls itself a killswitch but there is an
 option to turn wireless on and off using Fn-F2. I assume that is the
 software killswitch.
 
 I still get the killswitch related messages in /var/log/messages.
 
 Now I made a big mistake . I decided to re-install libsmbios . So I
 removed it and tried the wget method again to reinstall it. That did not
 work. I got a message this was already done and it will not be done
 again.
 
 So I haven't installed libsmbios and the errors are still there. What
 worries me is that somewhere along the line I got a message that
 libsmbios is needed by the haldaemon.
 
 Anny help out there?
Well I reinstalled libsmbios but am still getting the killswitch
messages in slightly different form:

--Sep 19 17:58:08 cyrus yum: Updated: httpd.i386 2.2.6-1.fc7
Sep 19 17:58:13 cyrus NetworkManager: info  Error getting killswitch
power: org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.KillSwitch.NotSupported -
dellWirelessCtl returned 4
Sep 19 17:58:44 cyrus last message repeated 5 times

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