Fedora 8 and PEAP

2007-12-03 Thread Yaakov Nemoy
Hey List,

Are there any known problems with Network Manager 0.7 and PEAP
Networks?  I seem to be having trouble connecting to my school's
network, which has otherwise been rock solid in Fedora 7.  What can I
do to figure out if it's a bug, and file the appropriate report?

-Yaakov
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Re: Fedora 8 and PEAP

2007-12-03 Thread Dan Williams
On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 11:13 -0500, Yaakov Nemoy wrote:
 Hey List,
 
 Are there any known problems with Network Manager 0.7 and PEAP
 Networks?  I seem to be having trouble connecting to my school's
 network, which has otherwise been rock solid in Fedora 7.  What can I
 do to figure out if it's a bug, and file the appropriate report?

Make sure you're using the latest NM that just got pushed out yesterday
(?) first.  Second, what's the wpa_supplicant config file that allows
you to get connected?  There isn't an option for the peaplabel=
parameter yet, because it's unclear how many people need that at the
moment.  You may wish to try toggling the peapver= parameter too.
Basically, if you can get a working wpa_supplicant config file, then we
have a great change of figuring out whether it's an NM isuse (not
setting the right config bits in wpa_supplicant), or whether the drivers
just suck too much (also a possibility given the immaturity of mac80211
if that's what you're using).

Dan


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Re: Fedora 8 and PEAP

2007-12-03 Thread Yaakov Nemoy
Ack, I just realized the mailing list doesn't mangle headers.

Sorry for the repost, Dan.

On Dec 3, 2007 11:41 AM, Dan Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Make sure you're using the latest NM that just got pushed out yesterday
 (?) first.  Second, what's the wpa_supplicant config file that allows
 you to get connected?  There isn't an option for the peaplabel=
 parameter yet, because it's unclear how many people need that at the
 moment.  You may wish to try toggling the peapver= parameter too.
 Basically, if you can get a working wpa_supplicant config file, then we
 have a great change of figuring out whether it's an NM isuse (not
 setting the right config bits in wpa_supplicant), or whether the drivers
 just suck too much (also a possibility given the immaturity of mac80211
 if that's what you're using).

I'm not actually sure where to begin.  I've never had to connect to
this network with anything but NetworkManager, so I never made a
wpa_supplicant config.  Does having one force NetworkManager to use
it?

The drivers are the iwl3945 drivers.  It's a Gateway laptop, but i
think it's the same chip that the thinkpads, which alot of fedora devs
have, also have.  If not, i've had to deal with the same bugs and
issues.

I'm going to boot into F8, and fiddle around a bit.

UPDATE:  I've noticed the dialog in 0.7 is different than in 0.6.x.
the old version provides TLS and PEAP as authentication methods, but
0.7 only offers TLS.  It also offers leap, but my school's network
won't accept it.  Where did that option for PEAP go?

I also noted that i didn't need any anonymous identities or
certificates to connect in 0.6.x, but that seems to be required under
TLS for 0.7.  I'm not an expert in these security handshaking deals,
I've actually taken way too much advantage of NetworkManager to hide
these complexities from me, (which it has done a very awesome job of.
Everyone complains about how hard it is to connect, and how they have
to run all this crap in Wintendo to make it work, and then I show them
how NetworkManager Just Works (TM).)

-Yaakov
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Re: Fedora 8 and PEAP

2007-12-03 Thread Rui Tiago Matos
On 03/12/2007, Yaakov Nemoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm not actually sure where to begin.  I've never had to connect to
 this network with anything but NetworkManager, so I never made a
 wpa_supplicant config.  Does having one force NetworkManager to use
 it?

I don't think so. The wpa_supplicant instance that NM runs gets
configured through D-Bus from the data you feed into nm-applet. When
you run wpa_supplicant on a terminal you specify a config file. For
instance, I use:

$ sudo wpa_supplicant -c$HOME/eduroam.conf -iwlan0 -Dwext -Bw

 UPDATE:  I've noticed the dialog in 0.7 is different than in 0.6.x.
 the old version provides TLS and PEAP as authentication methods, but
 0.7 only offers TLS.  It also offers leap, but my school's network
 won't accept it.  Where did that option for PEAP go?

You should install the latest version[1] which might already be on the
updates repository.

Rui

[1] http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=25584
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Re: Fedora 8 and PEAP

2007-12-03 Thread Yaakov Nemoy
On Dec 3, 2007 3:05 PM, Rui Tiago Matos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  UPDATE:  I've noticed the dialog in 0.7 is different than in 0.6.x.
  the old version provides TLS and PEAP as authentication methods, but
  0.7 only offers TLS.  It also offers leap, but my school's network
  won't accept it.  Where did that option for PEAP go?

 You should install the latest version[1] which might already be on the
 updates repository.

With which internet connection? ;)

I'll try to do a manual install, and get back to you guys on that
later.  For now, I have some work to do.

-Yaakov
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Re: Fedora 8 and PEAP

2007-12-03 Thread Rui Tiago Matos
On 03/12/2007, Dan Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Make sure you're using the latest NM that just got pushed out yesterday
 (?) first.  Second, what's the wpa_supplicant config file that allows
 you to get connected?  There isn't an option for the peaplabel=
 parameter yet, because it's unclear how many people need that at the
 moment.  You may wish to try toggling the peapver= parameter too.
 Basically, if you can get a working wpa_supplicant config file, then we
 have a great change of figuring out whether it's an NM isuse (not
 setting the right config bits in wpa_supplicant), or whether the drivers
 just suck too much (also a possibility given the immaturity of mac80211
 if that's what you're using).

Hey, I do also have connection problems with the iwl3945 driver on F8.
It really seems to be a driver problem connecting to my univ.'s
network. But it is largely exacerbated by NM.

I can get a more stable connection using wpa_supplicant and dhclient
directly (and disabling NM) with this config:

network={
ssid=eduroam
key_mgmt=WPA-EAP
eap=PEAP
identity=my_user_name
phase2=auth=MSCHAPV2
}

but still from time to time the wlan0 interface gets into the NO_CARRIER state.

With NM I can connect but as soon as wlan0 goes into NO_CARRIER NM
sends the connection down and tries to bring it up again several times
in a row asking for connections parameters again, etc. Very annoying.

Usually wlan0 will get out of the NO_CARRIER state after a while and I
can continue using the connection when not using NM.

I guess I should report this to Fedora's bugzilla. Any news about the
driver getting more stable? Actually today, the univ's network admins
sent an email asking that people update their drivers (on windows) for
the intel chipsets 2200, 3945 and 4945, so it seems even the windows
drivers suck.

Rui
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Re: Fedora 8 and PEAP

2007-12-03 Thread Dan Williams
On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 20:15 +, Rui Tiago Matos wrote:
 On 03/12/2007, Dan Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Make sure you're using the latest NM that just got pushed out yesterday
  (?) first.  Second, what's the wpa_supplicant config file that allows
  you to get connected?  There isn't an option for the peaplabel=
  parameter yet, because it's unclear how many people need that at the
  moment.  You may wish to try toggling the peapver= parameter too.
  Basically, if you can get a working wpa_supplicant config file, then we
  have a great change of figuring out whether it's an NM isuse (not
  setting the right config bits in wpa_supplicant), or whether the drivers
  just suck too much (also a possibility given the immaturity of mac80211
  if that's what you're using).
 
 Hey, I do also have connection problems with the iwl3945 driver on F8.
 It really seems to be a driver problem connecting to my univ.'s
 network. But it is largely exacerbated by NM.
 
 I can get a more stable connection using wpa_supplicant and dhclient
 directly (and disabling NM) with this config:
 
 network={
 ssid=eduroam
 key_mgmt=WPA-EAP
 eap=PEAP
 identity=my_user_name
 phase2=auth=MSCHAPV2
 }
 
 but still from time to time the wlan0 interface gets into the NO_CARRIER 
 state.

This means that the driver thinks you're being disconnected.  You might
want to enable wpa_supplicant debugging information by adding -ddd to
the Exec= line
in /usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/fi.epitest.hostap.WPASupplicant and
then grab the output of /var/log/wpa_supplicant.log to see if the driver
is disconnecting you.

Dan

 With NM I can connect but as soon as wlan0 goes into NO_CARRIER NM
 sends the connection down and tries to bring it up again several times
 in a row asking for connections parameters again, etc. Very annoying.
 
 Usually wlan0 will get out of the NO_CARRIER state after a while and I
 can continue using the connection when not using NM.
 
 I guess I should report this to Fedora's bugzilla. Any news about the
 driver getting more stable? Actually today, the univ's network admins
 sent an email asking that people update their drivers (on windows) for
 the intel chipsets 2200, 3945 and 4945, so it seems even the windows
 drivers suck.
 
 Rui

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Re: Fedora 8 and PEAP

2007-12-03 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 11:13 -0500, Yaakov Nemoy wrote:
 Hey List,
 
 Are there any known problems with Network Manager 0.7 and PEAP
 Networks?  I seem to be having trouble connecting to my school's
 network, which has otherwise been rock solid in Fedora 7.  What can I
 do to figure out if it's a bug, and file the appropriate report?
 
 -Yaakov
I am currently able to connect to our Universities WPA/WPA2 service that
uses PEAP. Is that what you wnat to do? However I am using NM-0.6.5 in
F7.
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