Mysteries of NM

2011-02-26 Thread Timothy Murphy
I'm running NetworkManager on my Thinkpad T60
(Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG controller, iwl3945 driver)
and it works fine under Fedora/KDE,
but I find the user interface almost completely unintelligible.

If I left click on the NM icon in the panel
a window comes up with WLAN Interface on the left,
and Connections on the right.
(Rather annoyingly, there is no X at the top right-hand corner
to close the window, one has to click again on the icon.)
A number of APs (4) are listed on the right, including the one I am using.

On the left, the Traffic box shows a number of moving spikes,
distributed unevenly but approximately one every 10 seconds.
I take it these are beacons of some kind from the APs?

If I click on the Manage Connections button at the bottom of the window
and then choose Wireless, my present connection is listed,
but it says Last Used: Never. which I find puzzling.

If I highlight this entry, and click on Scan,
I see rather a nice map showing the APs previously listed,
presumably showing the stronger signals nearer to the centre.
(What, if anything, does the location around the circle mean?)

I find it odd that this graphic only appears
after I have chosen a specific connection;
I would have thought it would be more logical
to offer it when the APs were listed earlier.

Are others puzzled by the NM interface,
or am I being obtuse?


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Re: Mysteries of NM

2011-02-26 Thread Andrey Borzenkov
On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net wrote:
 I'm running NetworkManager on my Thinkpad T60
 (Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG controller, iwl3945 driver)
 and it works fine under Fedora/KDE,
 but I find the user interface almost completely unintelligible.
...

 Are others puzzled by the NM interface,
 or am I being obtuse?


It is not NM but rather knetworkmanager (a.k.a. networkmanagement)
which is independent project.

I do not think many people on this list are using or working on it.
You better use kde-networkmana...@kde.org.
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Re: Mysteries of NM

2011-02-26 Thread Timothy Murphy
Andrey Borzenkov wrote:

 I'm running NetworkManager on my Thinkpad T60
 (Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG controller, iwl3945 driver)
 and it works fine under Fedora/KDE,
 but I find the user interface almost completely unintelligible.
 ...

 Are others puzzled by the NM interface,
 or am I being obtuse?

 
 It is not NM but rather knetworkmanager (a.k.a. networkmanagement)
 which is independent project.
 
 I do not think many people on this list are using or working on it.
 You better use kde-networkmana...@kde.org.

OK, thanks.
I suspected that might be it.
The interface is quite nice, but bizarre.

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Re: Mysteries of NM

2011-02-26 Thread José Queiroz
Are you using KDE 4.5? The network-manager plasmoid was redesigned, and now
its much more stable than before, it's worth a try.

2011/2/26 Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net

 Andrey Borzenkov wrote:

  I'm running NetworkManager on my Thinkpad T60
  (Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG controller, iwl3945 driver)
  and it works fine under Fedora/KDE,
  but I find the user interface almost completely unintelligible.
  ...
 
  Are others puzzled by the NM interface,
  or am I being obtuse?
 
 
  It is not NM but rather knetworkmanager (a.k.a. networkmanagement)
  which is independent project.
 
  I do not think many people on this list are using or working on it.
  You better use kde-networkmana...@kde.org.

 OK, thanks.
 I suspected that might be it.
 The interface is quite nice, but bizarre.

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 Timothy Murphy
 e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net
 tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366
 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland

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Re: Mysteries of NM

2011-02-26 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sat, 2011-02-26 at 15:09 +, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 I'm running NetworkManager on my Thinkpad T60
 (Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG controller, iwl3945 driver)
 and it works fine under Fedora/KDE,
 but I find the user interface almost completely unintelligible.
 
 If I left click on the NM icon in the panel
 a window comes up with WLAN Interface on the left,
 and Connections on the right.
 (Rather annoyingly, there is no X at the top right-hand corner
 to close the window, one has to click again on the icon.)
 A number of APs (4) are listed on the right, including the one I am using.
 
 On the left, the Traffic box shows a number of moving spikes,
 distributed unevenly but approximately one every 10 seconds.
 I take it these are beacons of some kind from the APs?
 
 If I click on the Manage Connections button at the bottom of the window
 and then choose Wireless, my present connection is listed,
 but it says Last Used: Never. which I find puzzling.
 
 If I highlight this entry, and click on Scan,
 I see rather a nice map showing the APs previously listed,
 presumably showing the stronger signals nearer to the centre.
 (What, if anything, does the location around the circle mean?)
 
 I find it odd that this graphic only appears
 after I have chosen a specific connection;
 I would have thought it would be more logical
 to offer it when the APs were listed earlier.
 
 Are others puzzled by the NM interface,
 or am I being obtuse?
 
 

I am mystified by your description of the interface. When I left click
on the NM icon I get no Traffic Box, no Manage Connwections button, etc,
etc and so forth. Is it that you are using knetworkmanager rather than
Network Manager?
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