Re: NM looses connection and/or doesn't use dhcp
On 11/9/07, Xamindar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Again, I am NOT using NetworkManager to set any static IPs. I disable > it before I set any static IPs so there is no reason for it to be using > them. But it is getting them somewhere and thinking that they are > correct. Let me ask you this: If 0.6.x doesn't support static IPs then > WHY IS IT SETTING THEM? Do you understand that you are using a distro provided package and that your distro might have patched NM to do that even if the stock NM doesn't do it? Rui ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: NM looses connection and/or doesn't use dhcp
Again, I am NOT using NetworkManager to set any static IPs. I disable it before I set any static IPs so there is no reason for it to be using them. But it is getting them somewhere and thinking that they are correct. Let me ask you this: If 0.6.x doesn't support static IPs then WHY IS IT SETTING THEM? Makes no sense to me. It should be using DHCP. Is there a cache somewhere of settings? Only thing I can think of is that I left the static ips set one time that I re-enabled NetworkManager and it picked them up. Dan Williams wrote: > Interaction with static IPs isn't really supported with 0.6.x well; NM > is supposed to flush the addresses on the interface when it brings the > connection up. It may be that your distro has implemented a backend > that tells NM to pull static IP settings from other distro config bits > (/etc/interfaces, /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* for example). > In that case, NM will use the static IP specified for that interface. > With 0.6.x, either you use static IP for the interface _all_ the time, > or you use DHCP all the time. 0.6.x and earlier weren't really > targetted at the static IP use-case. But 0.7 made good static IP > support an explicit goal and it'll be a lot better there. > > Dan > ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: NM looses connection and/or doesn't use dhcp
Ok, I understand this when it applies to wireless. But as I have said in my post I am talking about my wired connection. With wireless, yes, it makes sense. But with a wired connection that IS NOT dropping then I would expect NetworkManager to stay connected to it. I sometimes leave my laptop on at home and connected to the wired connection. Then at work I attempt to ssh into it only to find that it is "down". This is the reason I posted on here as it looks to be a serious bug. Now in all honesty it has stayed connected today for at least three hours so this is good. One possibility is that my wired connection becomes congested and very slow sometimes, but that shouldn't matter because it is still UP. Dan Williams wrote: > If the connection to the AP gets dropped, NM will connect to the last AP > you connected to that it can see because it attempts to preserve > connectivity. If you don't want to connect to that other network, > remove it from the saved networks list. If NM switched away from the > connection it had when you saw it, then something caused the wireless > card and driver to drop the connection to the AP, and NM was not able to > reconnect to that AP again in enough time. If your AP crashes or > reboots, for example, it might take a while to do so, during which it > can't be connected to. For example, sometimes my WRT54G crashes, and > after a reboot, the ipw2200 driver is stuck in a state where it won't > connect to the AP, requiring a module unload/reload before it can > connect again, _even_ without NetworkManager at all. > > Dan ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: NM looses connection and/or doesn't use dhcp
On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 00:01 -0700, Xamindar wrote: > Man, no one knows? This is a reall big problem and should be fixed. Am > I using an older version od NetworkManager and this has already been > fixed then? > > Xamindar wrote: > > I have started to have some problems with networkmanager lately. I am > > running version 0.6.5_p20070823. > > > > First thing: when I come home from work where I was connected using a > > static IP (at work I stop NM, set the static IP, then on reboot the PC > > goes back to it's dhcp settings) for some odd reason NM keeps setting my > > work IP and doesn't renew the IP for my home network. This is a recent > > occurrence and I can't figure out why it started doing it. Interaction with static IPs isn't really supported with 0.6.x well; NM is supposed to flush the addresses on the interface when it brings the connection up. It may be that your distro has implemented a backend that tells NM to pull static IP settings from other distro config bits (/etc/interfaces, /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* for example). In that case, NM will use the static IP specified for that interface. With 0.6.x, either you use static IP for the interface _all_ the time, or you use DHCP all the time. 0.6.x and earlier weren't really targetted at the static IP use-case. But 0.7 made good static IP support an explicit goal and it'll be a lot better there. Dan > > Secondly, at random times I will loose my connection. The IP is still > > there but I think NM messes up the default route info. Restarting NM > > fixes it or simply setting the default route manually does it. Why is > > it doing this? > ___ > NetworkManager-list mailing list > NetworkManager-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: NM looses connection and/or doesn't use dhcp
On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 08:58 -0800, Xamindar wrote: > It continues to happen. This time I found that my wired interface was > now down and my wireless interface was connected (to the neighbor) but I > never made this change at all. What is the deal here? This is very > annoying! Why is NetworkManager randomly switching interfaces and > randomly changing my IP? This is seriously annoying. I know it is If the connection to the AP gets dropped, NM will connect to the last AP you connected to that it can see because it attempts to preserve connectivity. If you don't want to connect to that other network, remove it from the saved networks list. If NM switched away from the connection it had when you saw it, then something caused the wireless card and driver to drop the connection to the AP, and NM was not able to reconnect to that AP again in enough time. If your AP crashes or reboots, for example, it might take a while to do so, during which it can't be connected to. For example, sometimes my WRT54G crashes, and after a reboot, the ipw2200 driver is stuck in a state where it won't connect to the AP, requiring a module unload/reload before it can connect again, _even_ without NetworkManager at all. Dan > NetworkManager because I can stop it and start my normal net service and > my wired connection will stay connected. While NetworkManager is > enabled I have checked and any network interface services or plugdev > service is stopped. So I guess for now I have to leave NetworkManager > disabled and use the old school setup until this is fixed within > NetworkManager. > > Xamindar wrote: > > Man, no one knows? This is a reall big problem and should be fixed. Am > > I using an older version od NetworkManager and this has already been > > fixed then? > > > > Xamindar wrote: > >> I have started to have some problems with networkmanager lately. I am > >> running version 0.6.5_p20070823. > >> > >> First thing: when I come home from work where I was connected using a > >> static IP (at work I stop NM, set the static IP, then on reboot the PC > >> goes back to it's dhcp settings) for some odd reason NM keeps setting > >> my work IP and doesn't renew the IP for my home network. This is a > >> recent occurrence and I can't figure out why it started doing it. > >> > >> Secondly, at random times I will loose my connection. The IP is still > >> there but I think NM messes up the default route info. Restarting NM > >> fixes it or simply setting the default route manually does it. Why is > >> it doing this? > ___ > NetworkManager-list mailing list > NetworkManager-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: NM looses connection and/or doesn't use dhcp
It continues to happen. This time I found that my wired interface was now down and my wireless interface was connected (to the neighbor) but I never made this change at all. What is the deal here? This is very annoying! Why is NetworkManager randomly switching interfaces and randomly changing my IP? This is seriously annoying. I know it is NetworkManager because I can stop it and start my normal net service and my wired connection will stay connected. While NetworkManager is enabled I have checked and any network interface services or plugdev service is stopped. So I guess for now I have to leave NetworkManager disabled and use the old school setup until this is fixed within NetworkManager. Xamindar wrote: > Man, no one knows? This is a reall big problem and should be fixed. Am > I using an older version od NetworkManager and this has already been > fixed then? > > Xamindar wrote: >> I have started to have some problems with networkmanager lately. I am >> running version 0.6.5_p20070823. >> >> First thing: when I come home from work where I was connected using a >> static IP (at work I stop NM, set the static IP, then on reboot the PC >> goes back to it's dhcp settings) for some odd reason NM keeps setting >> my work IP and doesn't renew the IP for my home network. This is a >> recent occurrence and I can't figure out why it started doing it. >> >> Secondly, at random times I will loose my connection. The IP is still >> there but I think NM messes up the default route info. Restarting NM >> fixes it or simply setting the default route manually does it. Why is >> it doing this? ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: NM looses connection and/or doesn't use dhcp
Man, no one knows? This is a reall big problem and should be fixed. Am I using an older version od NetworkManager and this has already been fixed then? Xamindar wrote: > I have started to have some problems with networkmanager lately. I am > running version 0.6.5_p20070823. > > First thing: when I come home from work where I was connected using a > static IP (at work I stop NM, set the static IP, then on reboot the PC > goes back to it's dhcp settings) for some odd reason NM keeps setting my > work IP and doesn't renew the IP for my home network. This is a recent > occurrence and I can't figure out why it started doing it. > > Secondly, at random times I will loose my connection. The IP is still > there but I think NM messes up the default route info. Restarting NM > fixes it or simply setting the default route manually does it. Why is > it doing this? ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: NM looses connection and/or doesn't use dhcp
Oops, I forgot to send my other reply to the list as well. Anyway. It didn't fix my problem. So it seems like a bug with networkmanager. Sourav K. Mandal wrote: > On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 18:58 -0700, Xamindar wrote: >> I have started to have some problems with networkmanager lately. I am >> running version 0.6.5_p20070823. > >>From the version number it looks like you are running Gentoo. Have you > updated baselayout recently? If so, perhaps you overwrote > your /etc/conf.d/rc, which has to have net scripts disabled so as not to > conflict with NM. > > Look here: > > http://gentoo-wiki.com/NetworkManager#Clean_up_your_old_network_settings > Ok, I fixed that with no change. >> First thing: when I come home from work where I was connected using a >> static IP (at work I stop NM, set the static IP, then on reboot the PC >> goes back to it's dhcp settings) for some odd reason NM keeps setting my >> work IP and doesn't renew the IP for my home network. This is a recent >> occurrence and I can't figure out why it started doing it. > > WLAN devices store the last IP address. Indeed, NM is supposed to > overwrite it when you select your home AP. > Talking wired here. Probably does it with the wireless as well but lately I haven't used wifi that much. At this moment I am connected to another wireless network and it works fine. But if I switch it back to my wired home network (and the cable IS plugged in) it sets the stupid static IP from work. I know I NEVER tried to use networkmanager with work, I never set this IP in it. Why the heck is it using it? This bug makes no sense at all. My gentoo network script are also set correctly. config_eth0=( "dhcp" ) That's all it has for this interface. >> Secondly, at random times I will loose my connection. The IP is still >> there but I think NM messes up the default route info. Restarting NM >> fixes it or simply setting the default route manually does it. Why is >> it doing this? > > This is why I think it may be a Gentoo problem -- RC service plugging > may be undoing what NM's setting. > Actually, looking closer, it looks likt NM sometimes sets it back to my work IP. There isn't even a place to set a static IP for my wired interface in NM so this makes no sense. > > Sourav > > ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: NM looses connection and/or doesn't use dhcp
Sourav K. Mandal wrote: > On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 18:58 -0700, Xamindar wrote: >> I have started to have some problems with networkmanager lately. I am >> running version 0.6.5_p20070823. > >>From the version number it looks like you are running Gentoo. Have you > updated baselayout recently? If so, perhaps you overwrote > your /etc/conf.d/rc, which has to have net scripts disabled so as not to > conflict with NM. > > Look here: > > http://gentoo-wiki.com/NetworkManager#Clean_up_your_old_network_settings Hmm, for some reason I had two "RC_PLUG_SERVICES="" sections in there. I removed one of them and set it to RC_PLUG_SERVICES="!net.*" I hope that helps. > >> First thing: when I come home from work where I was connected using a >> static IP (at work I stop NM, set the static IP, then on reboot the PC >> goes back to it's dhcp settings) for some odd reason NM keeps setting my >> work IP and doesn't renew the IP for my home network. This is a recent >> occurrence and I can't figure out why it started doing it. > > WLAN devices store the last IP address. Indeed, NM is supposed to > overwrite it when you select your home AP. I forgot to mention... I am only talking about the wired interface. Oh, and I am on Gentoo. > >> Secondly, at random times I will loose my connection. The IP is still >> there but I think NM messes up the default route info. Restarting NM >> fixes it or simply setting the default route manually does it. Why is >> it doing this? > > This is why I think it may be a Gentoo problem -- RC service plugging > may be undoing what NM's setting. Sounds like you are right. I must have overwrote a config file in an update. Thanks for the link. > > > Sourav > > ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: NM looses connection and/or doesn't use dhcp
On Thu, 2007-11-01 at 18:58 -0700, Xamindar wrote: > I have started to have some problems with networkmanager lately. I am > running version 0.6.5_p20070823. >From the version number it looks like you are running Gentoo. Have you updated baselayout recently? If so, perhaps you overwrote your /etc/conf.d/rc, which has to have net scripts disabled so as not to conflict with NM. Look here: http://gentoo-wiki.com/NetworkManager#Clean_up_your_old_network_settings > > First thing: when I come home from work where I was connected using a > static IP (at work I stop NM, set the static IP, then on reboot the PC > goes back to it's dhcp settings) for some odd reason NM keeps setting my > work IP and doesn't renew the IP for my home network. This is a recent > occurrence and I can't figure out why it started doing it. WLAN devices store the last IP address. Indeed, NM is supposed to overwrite it when you select your home AP. > Secondly, at random times I will loose my connection. The IP is still > there but I think NM messes up the default route info. Restarting NM > fixes it or simply setting the default route manually does it. Why is > it doing this? This is why I think it may be a Gentoo problem -- RC service plugging may be undoing what NM's setting. Sourav ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
NM looses connection and/or doesn't use dhcp
I have started to have some problems with networkmanager lately. I am running version 0.6.5_p20070823. First thing: when I come home from work where I was connected using a static IP (at work I stop NM, set the static IP, then on reboot the PC goes back to it's dhcp settings) for some odd reason NM keeps setting my work IP and doesn't renew the IP for my home network. This is a recent occurrence and I can't figure out why it started doing it. Secondly, at random times I will loose my connection. The IP is still there but I think NM messes up the default route info. Restarting NM fixes it or simply setting the default route manually does it. Why is it doing this? ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
