Re: NetworkManager and RunLevel 3
On Thu, 2009-03-19 at 15:13 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Thu, 2009-03-19 at 09:11 -0700, Geoffrey Leach wrote: I addressed this question to the NetworkManager list and received a couple of replies that I found to be quite educational. The topic appears on this list occasionally, so I thought it worthwhile to re- post here. The essence of what I discovered is that its not NetworkManager but nm- applet, which is a separate package, albeit from the same source. There is an analogous program available for RL3 There is no separate nm-applet package on Fedora that I can find. It's NetworkManager-gnome. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
NetworkManager and RunLevel 3
I addressed this question to the NetworkManager list and received a couple of replies that I found to be quite educational. The topic appears on this list occasionally, so I thought it worthwhile to re- post here. The essence of what I discovered is that its not NetworkManager but nm- applet, which is a separate package, albeit from the same source. There is an analogous program available for RL 3. Here's the thread. On 03/17/2009 10:45:51 AM, Michael Biebl wrote: Patryk Zawadzki wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Geoffrey Leach ge...@hughes.net wrote: Every so often on the Fedora list, there's a question about running NetworkManager on Fedora 10 at RunLevel 3, that is where there's no X windows or desktop running. It's generally acknowledged that at RunLevel 5 NetworkManager runs like a champ. Furthermore, it seems that the problem is mostly (always?) where the system relies on a wireless connection to a router. So, with all of that in mind, I thought I'd ask here and will re-post a summary of replies on the Fedora list. While I'm not a Fedora user, NM should work just fine from any level. There are two prerequisites however: 1) You need to make sure all the required services are up (hal, dbus) 2) You need some sort of connection provided by: 2.1) An NM client 2.2) A system connection While 2.1 is currently not possible without using X (there are only 2 There is a project called cnetworkmanager [1], which afaics tries to fill exactly this gap [1] http://vidner.net/martin/software/cnetworkmanager/ -- ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: NetworkManager and RunLevel 3
On Thu, 2009-03-19 at 09:11 -0700, Geoffrey Leach wrote: I addressed this question to the NetworkManager list and received a couple of replies that I found to be quite educational. The topic appears on this list occasionally, so I thought it worthwhile to re- post here. The essence of what I discovered is that its not NetworkManager but nm- applet, which is a separate package, albeit from the same source. There is an analogous program available for RL3 There is no separate nm-applet package on Fedora that I can find. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: NetworkManager and RunLevel 3
On Tue, 2009-03-17 at 18:45 +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: Patryk Zawadzki wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Geoffrey Leach ge...@hughes.net wrote: Every so often on the Fedora list, there's a question about running NetworkManager on Fedora 10 at RunLevel 3, that is where there's no X windows or desktop running. It's generally acknowledged that at RunLevel 5 NetworkManager runs like a champ. Furthermore, it seems that the problem is mostly (always?) where the system relies on a wireless connection to a router. So, with all of that in mind, I thought I'd ask here and will re-post a summary of replies on the Fedora list. While I'm not a Fedora user, NM should work just fine from any level. There are two prerequisites however: 1) You need to make sure all the required services are up (hal, dbus) 2) You need some sort of connection provided by: 2.1) An NM client 2.2) A system connection While 2.1 is currently not possible without using X (there are only 2 There is a project called cnetworkmanager [1], which afaics tries to fill exactly this gap Last I knew though (haven't checked in a bit) it wasn't quite up-to-date WRT the NM 0.7.0 API... Any idea if that's changed? Dan ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
NetworkManager and RunLevel 3
Every so often on the Fedora list, there's a question about running NetworkManager on Fedora 10 at RunLevel 3, that is where there's no X windows or desktop running. It's generally acknowledged that at RunLevel 5 NetworkManager runs like a champ. Furthermore, it seems that the problem is mostly (always?) where the system relies on a wireless connection to a router. So, with all of that in mind, I thought I'd ask here and will re-post a summary of replies on the Fedora list. Is it the case, then that: o NetworkManager is not designed to be run at RunLevel 3. Forgetaboutit! o NetworkManager should run at RunLevel 3, but it's broken. o Works for me -- what's your probelm? ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: NetworkManager and RunLevel 3
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Geoffrey Leach ge...@hughes.net wrote: Every so often on the Fedora list, there's a question about running NetworkManager on Fedora 10 at RunLevel 3, that is where there's no X windows or desktop running. It's generally acknowledged that at RunLevel 5 NetworkManager runs like a champ. Furthermore, it seems that the problem is mostly (always?) where the system relies on a wireless connection to a router. So, with all of that in mind, I thought I'd ask here and will re-post a summary of replies on the Fedora list. While I'm not a Fedora user, NM should work just fine from any level. There are two prerequisites however: 1) You need to make sure all the required services are up (hal, dbus) 2) You need some sort of connection provided by: 2.1) An NM client 2.2) A system connection While 2.1 is currently not possible without using X (there are only 2 clients, one for GNOME and one for KDE) nothing should prevent you from using a system-level connection. The method of configuring it depends on loaded plugins (either keyfile config or distro-specific /etc/ files for interfaces). -- Patryk Zawadzki ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: NetworkManager and RunLevel 3
Patryk Zawadzki wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Geoffrey Leach ge...@hughes.net wrote: Every so often on the Fedora list, there's a question about running NetworkManager on Fedora 10 at RunLevel 3, that is where there's no X windows or desktop running. It's generally acknowledged that at RunLevel 5 NetworkManager runs like a champ. Furthermore, it seems that the problem is mostly (always?) where the system relies on a wireless connection to a router. So, with all of that in mind, I thought I'd ask here and will re-post a summary of replies on the Fedora list. While I'm not a Fedora user, NM should work just fine from any level. There are two prerequisites however: 1) You need to make sure all the required services are up (hal, dbus) 2) You need some sort of connection provided by: 2.1) An NM client 2.2) A system connection While 2.1 is currently not possible without using X (there are only 2 There is a project called cnetworkmanager [1], which afaics tries to fill exactly this gap Michael [1] http://vidner.net/martin/software/cnetworkmanager/ -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
