Re: 3G; wireless auth; policies; docs
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 05:53:06PM -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thanks for the quick answer. > > The --with-docs tag worked but spec.html is generated only when I run > 'make' for > the second time. In the first time it gives me this error and stops the > compilation: > > """ > xsltproc --xinclude --nonet tools/doc-generator.xsl introspection/all.xml > > docs/spec.html > ERR: Unable to find type 'NM_DEVICE_STATE_REASON' > make: *** [docs/spec.html] Error 10 > """ I made a stub API documentation pointing at a static copy of spec.html: http://live.gnome.org/NetworkManagerDBusInterface It would be great if Dan or someone could host a more frequently updated copy. -- Martin Vidner, YaST developer http://en.opensuse.org/User:Mvidner Kuracke oddeleni v restauraci je jako fekalni oddeleni v bazenu ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: 3G; wireless auth; policies; docs
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 17:53 -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Thanks for the quick answer. > > The --with-docs tag worked but spec.html is generated only when I run > 'make' for > the second time. In the first time it gives me this error and stops > the compilation: > > """ > xsltproc --xinclude --nonet tools/doc-generator.xsl > introspection/all.xml > docs/spec.html > ERR: Unable to find type 'NM_DEVICE_STATE_REASON' > make: *** [docs/spec.html] Error 10 > """ Good catch, I need to update the docs for state reasons. > > Also, the spec file generated has few methods/signals ... only for > interfaces org.freedesktop.NetworkManager, > org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.AccessPoint and > org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.Device. Is this right ? No, sounds wrong. I'll look into it. > I know that documentation is not the major priority now, but I'm > looking for a way to make Network Manager > connects to a given wireless (SSID). Any ideas ? A pointer would be cnetworkmanager, or the applet itself. Will this functionality be run concurrently with nm-applet, or are you looking to replace nm-applet? Are you by chance implementing the "Connect" button in the connection editor for Grant or John W.? :) Dan > Thanks > > Rodrigo Trujillo > > > > From: > Dan Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: > networkmanager-list@gnome.org > Date: > 07/16/2008 04:58 PM > Subject: > Re: 3G; wireless auth; policies; > docs > > > __ > > > > On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 16:26 -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Where is the spec.html file ?? > > I could not find or generate it. > > If you run configure or autogen.sh with --with-docs you should get a > generated spec.html after the build is done. > > Dan > > > > ___ > NetworkManager-list mailing list > NetworkManager-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: 3G; wireless auth; policies; docs
Thanks for the quick answer. The --with-docs tag worked but spec.html is generated only when I run 'make' for the second time. In the first time it gives me this error and stops the compilation: """ xsltproc --xinclude --nonet tools/doc-generator.xsl introspection/all.xml > docs/spec.html ERR: Unable to find type 'NM_DEVICE_STATE_REASON' make: *** [docs/spec.html] Error 10 """ Also, the spec file generated has few methods/signals ... only for interfaces org.freedesktop.NetworkManager, org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.AccessPoint and org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.Device. Is this right ? I know that documentation is not the major priority now, but I'm looking for a way to make Network Manager connects to a given wireless (SSID). Any ideas ? Thanks Rodrigo Trujillo From: Dan Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: networkmanager-list@gnome.org Date: 07/16/2008 04:58 PM Subject: Re: 3G; wireless auth; policies; docs On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 16:26 -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Where is the spec.html file ?? > I could not find or generate it. If you run configure or autogen.sh with --with-docs you should get a generated spec.html after the build is done. Dan ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: 3G; wireless auth; policies; docs
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 16:26 -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Where is the spec.html file ?? > I could not find or generate it. If you run configure or autogen.sh with --with-docs you should get a generated spec.html after the build is done. Dan > > Thanks > > Rodrigo Trujillo > > > From: > Dan Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Jens-Michael Hoffmann > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: > Alexey Dumov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > networkmanager mailing list > , > Ferenc Sos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: > 07/03/2008 06:19 PM > Subject: > Re: 3G; wireless auth; policies; > docs > > > __ > > > > On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 13:14 +0200, Jens-Michael Hoffmann wrote: > > Hi, > > > > first of all let me thank you for your great work and > NetworkManager. > > Great to see your interest. I'd like to ensure that Option cards work > as well as possible with NetworkManager. > > > We are currently evaluating NetworkManager and would like to ask > some > > questions: > > > > What is the status of support for 3G devices? > > We have fairly basic support for connecting, disconnecting, setting > APN, > PIN/PUK handling, username, password, etc. Planned support includes > band preference, roaming preference, etc. I'd like to implement > rfkill > as well but we really do need a standard kernel interface for that > which > would live in the 'option' driver in the kernel and hook into the WWAN > rfkill functionality in 2.6.26 and later. > > > How and where are policies (like choose wired over wireless) > implemented? > > It's fairly basic right now. But I'm certainly willing to discuss > more > flexible priority handling > > > Is it possible to do connect on demand with NetwokManager? > > Not at this time, I need to figure out how that's supposed to work. > ISTR it involves creating a 'fake' network device and having userspace > hooks called whenever something starts sending out traffic or bringing > the device up, but I actually have no idea. Definitely something I > want > to support though. > > > How is the wireless authentication stuff (WEP/WPA/WPA2) handled? > > Are there callbacks to get the keys or any other mechanism? > > Yes. When NM (or the user) wishes to connect to a wireless network > and > does not have the required authentication secrets for that network, it > will ask the daemon that provides that connection. This is either the > system settings daemon (nm-system-settings) or the applet running in > the > user's session (nm-applet or knetworkmanager). If the settings deamon > does not have the secrets required, it will ask the user for them. > > > Is there any kind of documentation apart from the generated > spec.html? > > We are especially looking for developer documentation. > > At this time the documentation consists of the generated spec.html, > which is really only useful if you are intending to write your own > front-end to NetworkManager (talking over D-Bus of course). You could > also use libnm-glib which provides an object-oriented wrapper around > the > dbus interface. > > I will be adding doxygen/gtkdoc a bit later this summer to libnm-util > and libnm-glib, but in the mean time, both Tambet and I would be quite > happy to answer any questions you might have. > > The D-Bus and libnm-glib APIs are not _quite_ final yet, but they are > pretty darn close and I don't expect them to change much. The one > change I will be making quite soon is using IPv4 prefixes instead of > IPv4 netmasks through out the API and the UI. > > Dan > > > > > Best regards > > > > Jens-Michael Hoffmann > > ___ > > NetworkManager-list mailing list > > NetworkManager-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list > > ___ > NetworkManager-list mailing list > NetworkManager-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list > > > ___ > NetworkManager-list mailing list > NetworkManager-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: 3G; wireless auth; policies; docs
Where is the spec.html file ?? I could not find or generate it. Thanks Rodrigo Trujillo From: Dan Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Jens-Michael Hoffmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Alexey Dumov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, networkmanager mailing list , Ferenc Sos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 07/03/2008 06:19 PM Subject: Re: 3G; wireless auth; policies; docs On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 13:14 +0200, Jens-Michael Hoffmann wrote: > Hi, > > first of all let me thank you for your great work and NetworkManager. Great to see your interest. I'd like to ensure that Option cards work as well as possible with NetworkManager. > We are currently evaluating NetworkManager and would like to ask some > questions: > > What is the status of support for 3G devices? We have fairly basic support for connecting, disconnecting, setting APN, PIN/PUK handling, username, password, etc. Planned support includes band preference, roaming preference, etc. I'd like to implement rfkill as well but we really do need a standard kernel interface for that which would live in the 'option' driver in the kernel and hook into the WWAN rfkill functionality in 2.6.26 and later. > How and where are policies (like choose wired over wireless) implemented? It's fairly basic right now. But I'm certainly willing to discuss more flexible priority handling > Is it possible to do connect on demand with NetwokManager? Not at this time, I need to figure out how that's supposed to work. ISTR it involves creating a 'fake' network device and having userspace hooks called whenever something starts sending out traffic or bringing the device up, but I actually have no idea. Definitely something I want to support though. > How is the wireless authentication stuff (WEP/WPA/WPA2) handled? > Are there callbacks to get the keys or any other mechanism? Yes. When NM (or the user) wishes to connect to a wireless network and does not have the required authentication secrets for that network, it will ask the daemon that provides that connection. This is either the system settings daemon (nm-system-settings) or the applet running in the user's session (nm-applet or knetworkmanager). If the settings deamon does not have the secrets required, it will ask the user for them. > Is there any kind of documentation apart from the generated spec.html? > We are especially looking for developer documentation. At this time the documentation consists of the generated spec.html, which is really only useful if you are intending to write your own front-end to NetworkManager (talking over D-Bus of course). You could also use libnm-glib which provides an object-oriented wrapper around the dbus interface. I will be adding doxygen/gtkdoc a bit later this summer to libnm-util and libnm-glib, but in the mean time, both Tambet and I would be quite happy to answer any questions you might have. The D-Bus and libnm-glib APIs are not _quite_ final yet, but they are pretty darn close and I don't expect them to change much. The one change I will be making quite soon is using IPv4 prefixes instead of IPv4 netmasks through out the API and the UI. Dan > > Best regards > > Jens-Michael Hoffmann > ___ > NetworkManager-list mailing list > NetworkManager-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: 3G; wireless auth; policies; docs
On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 13:14 +0200, Jens-Michael Hoffmann wrote: > Hi, > > first of all let me thank you for your great work and NetworkManager. Great to see your interest. I'd like to ensure that Option cards work as well as possible with NetworkManager. > We are currently evaluating NetworkManager and would like to ask some > questions: > > What is the status of support for 3G devices? We have fairly basic support for connecting, disconnecting, setting APN, PIN/PUK handling, username, password, etc. Planned support includes band preference, roaming preference, etc. I'd like to implement rfkill as well but we really do need a standard kernel interface for that which would live in the 'option' driver in the kernel and hook into the WWAN rfkill functionality in 2.6.26 and later. > How and where are policies (like choose wired over wireless) implemented? It's fairly basic right now. But I'm certainly willing to discuss more flexible priority handling > Is it possible to do connect on demand with NetwokManager? Not at this time, I need to figure out how that's supposed to work. ISTR it involves creating a 'fake' network device and having userspace hooks called whenever something starts sending out traffic or bringing the device up, but I actually have no idea. Definitely something I want to support though. > How is the wireless authentication stuff (WEP/WPA/WPA2) handled? > Are there callbacks to get the keys or any other mechanism? Yes. When NM (or the user) wishes to connect to a wireless network and does not have the required authentication secrets for that network, it will ask the daemon that provides that connection. This is either the system settings daemon (nm-system-settings) or the applet running in the user's session (nm-applet or knetworkmanager). If the settings deamon does not have the secrets required, it will ask the user for them. > Is there any kind of documentation apart from the generated spec.html? > We are especially looking for developer documentation. At this time the documentation consists of the generated spec.html, which is really only useful if you are intending to write your own front-end to NetworkManager (talking over D-Bus of course). You could also use libnm-glib which provides an object-oriented wrapper around the dbus interface. I will be adding doxygen/gtkdoc a bit later this summer to libnm-util and libnm-glib, but in the mean time, both Tambet and I would be quite happy to answer any questions you might have. The D-Bus and libnm-glib APIs are not _quite_ final yet, but they are pretty darn close and I don't expect them to change much. The one change I will be making quite soon is using IPv4 prefixes instead of IPv4 netmasks through out the API and the UI. Dan > > Best regards > > Jens-Michael Hoffmann > ___ > NetworkManager-list mailing list > NetworkManager-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: 3G; wireless auth; policies; docs
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008, Jens-Michael Hoffmann wrote: Hi, first of all let me thank you for your great work and NetworkManager. We are currently evaluating NetworkManager and would like to ask some questions: What is the status of support for 3G devices? Works very nicely for me with Option Fusion+ (:-)) and others. However the cards sometimes report bogus DNS server IP addresses, see e.g. http://www.mail-archive.com/networkmanager-list%40gnome.org/msg08359.html How and where are policies (like choose wired over wireless) implemented? In NetworkManagerPolicy.c: get_device_priority() Is it possible to do connect on demand with NetwokManager? How is the wireless authentication stuff (WEP/WPA/WPA2) handled? Are there callbacks to get the keys or any other mechanism? Is there any kind of documentation apart from the generated spec.html? We are especially looking for developer documentation. Best regards Jens-Michael Hoffmann ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
