Re: Nice mockup

[Dan Williams]

On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 00:03 +0100, Kos wrote:
> hey,
> 
> I came across the following mockup
> (http://onlinedev.blogspot.com/2008/02/shape-of-things-to-come.html)
> and I really liked it.
> It is clean and simple.

The applet is supposed to stay pretty simple; we shouldn't be showing
information in the applet that you don't need more than once a day.  The
mockup is interesting in that it shows a way of handling multiple
connections, which is something we're going to need to do, but I think
it's a bit too much to stuff into a menu, for example.

Brian Clark and Mike Langley did some mockups and design that I think is
more appropriate, I'd like to target a major applet redesign for the
0.7.1 timeframe.  We need to get the base of NM solid with multiple
devices for 0.7.0 itself, then work on making the applet support it.
For the 0.7.0 release the applet will be somewhat kludged.

Brian's and Mike's mockups use a window instead of a menu, because it
allows for a lot more room and isn't a confusing repurposing of a menu.
It remains to be seen whether we do a pointer grab and dismiss the
window when you click outside of it (like menus do right now) or what,
stuff just has to be iterated.

The other issue with the linked mockup is that NM doesn't operate in
_profiles_, but works on a connection-by-connection basis.  Each device
activates a connection, where the connection encapsulates the settings
that apply for that device.  More than one connection may apply to a
single device (though you can't have two active at the same time).  So
you could have a "Sharing" connection for your wireless that is Ad-Hoc
with autoip addresses, and at the same time a "T-Mobile" connection for
your WWAN card, which you're bridging to your wireless.  You don't set a
system wide "profile" that applies to all devices, because that's just
way too granular and isn't how most people work.

Dan

> I would be happy to see it implemented.
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Re: Nice mockup

[nullstring]

I think you guys got to stop deciding things like this for people.

Why not make it optional? we linux users love our conf files =)

I would certainly be interested in speed, IP address, Signal Strength, 
and possibly Public IP address

Kos wrote:
>
> yeah, it show a little more than needed. The wired network just has to 
> show it's ip and his speed. (and the speed actually not necessarily, 
> but handy). With wireless connection it is handy to know what the 
> signal strength is, but the safety is totally unnecessarily (we should 
> show that with a lock icon). Also the gateway with the vpn-connections 
> are not needed.
>
> You're right, the menu's of the status icons are more and more 
> becoming a window for seeing and changing the (trivial) settings. And 
> I like that idea. So you can change things with one click of your 
> button. I think the sound icon was the first one with that feature. 
> Just click on the icon and you can change the volume. Also the clock 
> in ubuntu gives you a full window and in hardy heron it evens becomes 
> a clock with the possibility of tracking more time zones. So I don't 
> see why the network-applet has to stay behind. Especially when it can 
> benefit off the advantages.
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 12:30 AM, Pat Suwalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > wrote:
> > It shows a little more information than most users would be interested
> > in at the top-level menu, don't you think?
> >
> > It seems people are more and more expecting the pop-ups that have
> > classically been menus to be full windows with layouts. There is
> > something to be said for simplicity.
> >
> > --Pat
>
>
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Re: Nice mockup

[Vadim Peretokin]

The IP / web settings are a bit too much. Speed and connection strength are
nice.

On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Kos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> hey,
>
> I came across the following mockup (
> http://onlinedev.blogspot.com/2008/02/shape-of-things-to-come.html) and I
> really liked it.
> It is clean and simple.
>
> I would be happy to see it implemented.
>
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Re: Nice mockup

[Pat Suwalski]

Kos wrote:
> hey,
> 
> I came across the following mockup 
> (http://onlinedev.blogspot.com/2008/02/shape-of-things-to-come.html) and 
> I really liked it.
> It is clean and simple.
> 
> I would be happy to see it implemented.

It shows a little more information than most users would be interested 
in at the top-level menu, don't you think?

It seems people are more and more expecting the pop-ups that have 
classically been menus to be full windows with layouts. There is 
something to be said for simplicity.

--Pat
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