Re: nm with dnsmasq?
On Tuesday 04 December 2007, Dan Williams wrote: On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 20:52 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: Is there some way to get nm to cooperate with a local caching NS? I'm thinking dnsmasq, since it's lightweight. The problem is that NM will overwrite resolv.conf. What is the recommendation? With 0.7 we need to rethink the caching nameserver stuff. The code is still there to talk to named, but we should probably rip it out and make it more modular so people can use it with dnsmasq, resolvconf, other tools, etc. Dan In the interim, how about this: Have nm read a config file /etc/nm.config, which includes an option 'dont_overwrite_resolv.conf'? ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: nm with dnsmasq?
On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 20:52 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: Is there some way to get nm to cooperate with a local caching NS? I'm thinking dnsmasq, since it's lightweight. The problem is that NM will overwrite resolv.conf. What is the recommendation? With 0.7 we need to rethink the caching nameserver stuff. The code is still there to talk to named, but we should probably rip it out and make it more modular so people can use it with dnsmasq, resolvconf, other tools, etc. Dan ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: nm with dnsmasq?
Derek Atkins wrote: Neal Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there some way to get nm to cooperate with a local caching NS? I'm thinking dnsmasq, since it's lightweight. The problem is that NM will overwrite resolv.conf. What is the recommendation? Use bind with dbus turned on and it all just works. -derek Apparantly that is going away: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2007-December/msg00146.html ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: nm with dnsmasq?
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 10:36 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: On Tuesday 04 December 2007, Dan Williams wrote: On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 20:52 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: Is there some way to get nm to cooperate with a local caching NS? I'm thinking dnsmasq, since it's lightweight. The problem is that NM will overwrite resolv.conf. What is the recommendation? With 0.7 we need to rethink the caching nameserver stuff. The code is still there to talk to named, but we should probably rip it out and make it more modular so people can use it with dnsmasq, resolvconf, other tools, etc. Dan In the interim, how about this: Have nm read a config file /etc/nm.config, which includes an option 'dont_overwrite_resolv.conf'? Not really; that's got a lot of potential for abuse and sends the wrong message. How would DNS information from NM get to the caching nameserver? Dan ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: nm with dnsmasq?
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 11:02 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: Derek Atkins wrote: Neal Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there some way to get nm to cooperate with a local caching NS? I'm thinking dnsmasq, since it's lightweight. The problem is that NM will overwrite resolv.conf. What is the recommendation? Use bind with dbus turned on and it all just works. -derek Apparantly that is going away: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2007-December/msg00146.html Yeah... Dan ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: nm with dnsmasq?
Neal Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there some way to get nm to cooperate with a local caching NS? I'm thinking dnsmasq, since it's lightweight. The problem is that NM will overwrite resolv.conf. What is the recommendation? Use bind with dbus turned on and it all just works. -derek -- Derek Atkins, SB '93 MIT EE, SM '95 MIT Media Laboratory Member, MIT Student Information Processing Board (SIPB) URL: http://web.mit.edu/warlord/PP-ASEL-IA N1NWH [EMAIL PROTECTED]PGP key available ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: nm with dnsmasq?
Dan Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Use bind with dbus turned on and it all just works. -derek Apparantly that is going away: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2007-December/msg00146.html Yeah... Too bad! It's really nice and useful! Dan -derek -- Derek Atkins, SB '93 MIT EE, SM '95 MIT Media Laboratory Member, MIT Student Information Processing Board (SIPB) URL: http://web.mit.edu/warlord/PP-ASEL-IA N1NWH [EMAIL PROTECTED]PGP key available ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: nm with dnsmasq?
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 14:20 -0500, Derek Atkins wrote: Dan Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Use bind with dbus turned on and it all just works. -derek Apparantly that is going away: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2007-December/msg00146.html Yeah... Too bad! It's really nice and useful! The functionality won't be going away (though it might hiccup a bit), since it definitely is still useful. Just the communication implementation between NM and named. Everyone agrees that it's nice to have named (or something else) as a caching nameserver that can be updated dynamically, but the D-Bus interface in named was never going upstream and wasn't very maintainable. I think the hand-wavy new plan is to use other tools that ship with named to update the forwarders in a non-D-Bus-y way. Dan ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: nm with dnsmasq?
Quoting Dan Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Too bad! It's really nice and useful! The functionality won't be going away (though it might hiccup a bit), since it definitely is still useful. Just the communication implementation between NM and named. Everyone agrees that it's nice to have named (or something else) as a caching nameserver that can be updated dynamically, but the D-Bus interface in named was never going upstream and wasn't very maintainable. I think the hand-wavy new plan is to use other tools that ship with named to update the forwarders in a non-D-Bus-y way. I've got a bunch of ISC people (including a number of Bind developers) at my disposal this week. Anything in particular you'd like me to ask them or talk to them about? I'm personal friends with the BIND9 project manager. ;) Dan -derek -- Derek Atkins, SB '93 MIT EE, SM '95 MIT Media Laboratory Member, MIT Student Information Processing Board (SIPB) URL: http://web.mit.edu/warlord/PP-ASEL-IA N1NWH [EMAIL PROTECTED]PGP key available ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
