Re: Simplifying the Connections Editor
On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 13:46 -0500, Dan Williams wrote: On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 19:28 +0100, Fanen Ahua wrote: Someone called me up today asking me how to configure a manual IP address in Ubuntu 8.10. He was most likely intimidated by the naming of the tabs in the connection editor dialog. Won't it be better to make the IPv4 Settings tab the first thing, and rename it to something more familiar, Settings perhaps? This makes sense because nearly everytime I use the dialog, I only change the connection name, and input the IP details, and the only tab I use is the IPv4 Setings tab, where i choose the manual method, and input the DNS servers. So when we add the IPv6 tab, then what? :) Then, we can safely assume (at least for a few years afterwards) that if you want to configure IPv6, then you know what it means :) In any case, I think making the IPv4 tab the first one will eliminate confusion. dan signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Simplifying the Connections Editor
Someone called me up today asking me how to configure a manual IP address in Ubuntu 8.10. He was most likely intimidated by the naming of the tabs in the connection editor dialog. Won't it be better to make the IPv4 Settings tab the first thing, and rename it to something more familiar, Settings perhaps? This makes sense because nearly everytime I use the dialog, I only change the connection name, and input the IP details, and the only tab I use is the IPv4 Setings tab, where i choose the manual method, and input the DNS servers. This should make it a lot less confusing for users. --- Fanen Ahua Random quote: If you didn't get caught, did you really do it? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: Simplifying the Connections Editor
On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 19:28 +0100, Fanen Ahua wrote: Someone called me up today asking me how to configure a manual IP address in Ubuntu 8.10. He was most likely intimidated by the naming of the tabs in the connection editor dialog. Won't it be better to make the IPv4 Settings tab the first thing, and rename it to something more familiar, Settings perhaps? This makes sense because nearly everytime I use the dialog, I only change the connection name, and input the IP details, and the only tab I use is the IPv4 Setings tab, where i choose the manual method, and input the DNS servers. So when we add the IPv6 tab, then what? :) dan ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: Simplifying the Connections Editor
On Tuesday 10 February 2009, Dan Williams wrote: On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 19:28 +0100, Fanen Ahua wrote: Someone called me up today asking me how to configure a manual IP address in Ubuntu 8.10. He was most likely intimidated by the naming of the tabs in the connection editor dialog. Won't it be better to make the IPv4 Settings tab the first thing, and rename it to something more familiar, Settings perhaps? This makes sense because nearly everytime I use the dialog, I only change the connection name, and input the IP details, and the only tab I use is the IPv4 Setings tab, where i choose the manual method, and input the DNS servers. So when we add the IPv6 tab, then what? :) dan Then what Dan, is a decent tut on setting up the local networks ipv6 addresses using no intervention from dhcp. It may be around, I haven't looked for it yet, but from the lack of posted links I'm getting the impression that it doesn't exist in a human readable form. With the switchover looming to take place yet within my life if I'm lucky, it seems to me that ipv6 somehow has this shroud on invisibility over it. Those of use using 192.168 based home networks need to be able to figure out how to set this up ahead of time so we aren't caught in a no mans land when the switch is done. ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list -- Cheers, Gene There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) FOOLED you! Absorb EGO SHATTERING impulse rays, polyester poltroon!! ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: Simplifying the Connections Editor
On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 14:18 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 10 February 2009, Dan Williams wrote: On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 19:28 +0100, Fanen Ahua wrote: Someone called me up today asking me how to configure a manual IP address in Ubuntu 8.10. He was most likely intimidated by the naming of the tabs in the connection editor dialog. Won't it be better to make the IPv4 Settings tab the first thing, and rename it to something more familiar, Settings perhaps? This makes sense because nearly everytime I use the dialog, I only change the connection name, and input the IP details, and the only tab I use is the IPv4 Setings tab, where i choose the manual method, and input the DNS servers. So when we add the IPv6 tab, then what? :) dan Then what Dan, is a decent tut on setting up the local networks ipv6 addresses using no intervention from dhcp. It may be around, I haven't looked for it yet, but from the lack of posted links I'm getting the impression that it doesn't exist in a human readable form. With the switchover looming to take place yet within my life if I'm lucky, it seems to me that ipv6 somehow has this shroud on invisibility over it. Those of use using 192.168 based home networks need to be able to figure out how to set this up ahead of time so we aren't caught in a no mans land when the switch is done. IPv6 has a few different modes, and only one requires no configuration, but you don't even get nameservers in that case, so the connection is pretty much good for local only. If you want to actually *use* the IPv6 setup, then you need to either statically configure nameservers, or you can use DHCP. DHCP in IPv6 works in two modes, lease and information-only. In lease mode, DHCP works exactly like in IPv4; a DHCP server is found and a lease obtained, along with DHCP options just like IPv4. In information-only mode, the router advertisements (or static methods) provide the actual IPv6 address, but DHCP is additionally run, not to get a lease, but only to retrieve DNS and other information. In addition, static routes, search domains, etc can be used with IPv6. Thus, IPv6 config will look a lot like IPv4. Dan ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
