Re: Suggestion: "Static" WPA Networks
Hello. On Mon, 2006-11-06 at 17:01, Dan Williams wrote: > > > > Err, I'm a bit confused about this sentence. You mean me here? Or this > > somebody else also working on it and i missed it? > > You were looking at phase2, and Stephan Schmidt ^^^ Heh, that's me. f instead of ph, but still the same guy. :) regards Stefan Schmidt signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: Suggestion: "Static" WPA Networks
On Mon, 2006-11-06 at 13:08 -0800, Miles Lane wrote: > I am glad to see there is a plan for NM automatically connecting > to a network at book time, but will there ever be a way to drive > NM functionality from the command line? I often test bleeding-edge > distros and kernels and sometimes need to get the network going > without loading a desktop environment. You can do this with dbus-send and the dbus API, if you like. dan > Thanks, > Miles ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: Suggestion: "Static" WPA Networks
On Mon, 2006-11-06 at 21:55 +0100, Stefan Schmidt wrote: > Hello. > > On Mon, 2006-11-06 at 15:05, Dan Williams wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-11-03 at 16:51 +0100, Stefan Schmidt wrote: > > > > > Sorry, we know all the different opions from wpa_supplicant needs > > > still a lot of work. > > > > > > Support for config files, wpa_supplicant or even openvpn, is something > > > Dan and Robert are not happy with. I'm not sure if they accept a patch > > > for it, but you can try it anyway. > > > > As said above, I'm working on a patch that will let you use system > > config files to pull in a boot-time wireless config. That will be > > _0.6.x_ -only patch. In 0.7, we're going to do this the right way. > > Sounds good. > > > And we'll support that soon, thanks to the work of some people on this list! > > Err, I'm a bit confused about this sentence. You mean me here? Or this > somebody else also working on it and i missed it? You were looking at phase2, and Stephan Schmidt was working on dynamic WEP with some additional EAP options. This is good progress, thanks both! Lets see if we can get this nailed. Dan > Today I had a fight with glade to add a phase2 selection box in > tnm-applet. (First time I used glade). Also dded some code to handle > the selection box. Not working yet, but I hope I have something at the > end of the week. > > regards > Stefan Schmidt ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: Suggestion: "Static" WPA Networks
With that situation wouldn't it be easier to just bring up an interface with wpa_supplicant and whatever the distro tools are? On 11/6/06, Miles Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am glad to see there is a plan for NM automatically connecting > to a network at book time, but will there ever be a way to drive > NM functionality from the command line? I often test bleeding-edge > distros and kernels and sometimes need to get the network going > without loading a desktop environment. > > Thanks, > Miles > ___ > NetworkManager-list mailing list > NetworkManager-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list > ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: Suggestion: "Static" WPA Networks
I am glad to see there is a plan for NM automatically connecting to a network at book time, but will there ever be a way to drive NM functionality from the command line? I often test bleeding-edge distros and kernels and sometimes need to get the network going without loading a desktop environment. Thanks, Miles ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: Suggestion: "Static" WPA Networks
Hello. On Mon, 2006-11-06 at 15:05, Dan Williams wrote: > On Fri, 2006-11-03 at 16:51 +0100, Stefan Schmidt wrote: > > > Sorry, we know all the different opions from wpa_supplicant needs > > still a lot of work. > > > > Support for config files, wpa_supplicant or even openvpn, is something > > Dan and Robert are not happy with. I'm not sure if they accept a patch > > for it, but you can try it anyway. > > As said above, I'm working on a patch that will let you use system > config files to pull in a boot-time wireless config. That will be > _0.6.x_ -only patch. In 0.7, we're going to do this the right way. Sounds good. > And we'll support that soon, thanks to the work of some people on this list! Err, I'm a bit confused about this sentence. You mean me here? Or this somebody else also working on it and i missed it? Today I had a fight with glade to add a phase2 selection box in tnm-applet. (First time I used glade). Also ?dded some code to handle the selection box. Not working yet, but I hope I have something at the end of the week. regards Stefan Schmidt signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: Suggestion: "Static" WPA Networks
On Fri, 2006-11-03 at 16:51 +0100, Stefan Schmidt wrote: > Hello. > > On Fri, 2006-11-03 at 10:24, Zach Tibbitts wrote: > > > > so, what if you could create some sort of /etc/nm-wpa.conf file that read > > like a wpa_supplicant > > configuration file, and network manager would add a menu option in the popup > > menu to connect > > to any networks you have explicitly defined in that file. This would make a > > nice temporary solution > > until the GUI configuration adds support for those protocols. > > But it also means to do work twice. > > I don't think one of the current devs will work on such a temporary > solution, but will work on a better integration of the opions in nm. You're right; lets do this the right way and not a temporary hack. I'm already going to put in a temporary hack to allow NM to start wireless networks on boot (if appropriately defined in your distro config files), and that's just about enough hacks. > Sorry, we know all the different opions from wpa_supplicant needs > still a lot of work. > > Support for config files, wpa_supplicant or even openvpn, is something > Dan and Robert are not happy with. I'm not sure if they accept a patch > for it, but you can try it anyway. As said above, I'm working on a patch that will let you use system config files to pull in a boot-time wireless config. That will be _0.6.x_ -only patch. In 0.7, we're going to do this the right way. I agree that we're a bit slow to get the phase2 stuff working in NM, but people also have to understand that NM is going to cover the common cases first, and then move on to the less common cases. I'd argue that something like Dynamic WEP with IEEE 802.1x and 40-bit WEP keys and EAP authentication to a radius server is pretty obscure; obviously phase2 auth is much more widely used. And we'll support that soon, thanks to the work of some people on this list! I personally haven't had the time in the past week or two to do the phase2 stuff myself, and that's my fault. Dan > regards > Stefan Schmidt > ___ > NetworkManager-list mailing list > NetworkManager-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Re: Suggestion: "Static" WPA Networks
Hello. On Fri, 2006-11-03 at 10:24, Zach Tibbitts wrote: > > so, what if you could create some sort of /etc/nm-wpa.conf file that read > like a wpa_supplicant > configuration file, and network manager would add a menu option in the popup > menu to connect > to any networks you have explicitly defined in that file. This would make a > nice temporary solution > until the GUI configuration adds support for those protocols. But it also means to do work twice. I don't think one of the current devs will work on such a temporary solution, but will work on a better integration of the opions in nm. Sorry, we know all the different opions from wpa_supplicant needs still a lot of work. Support for config files, wpa_supplicant or even openvpn, is something Dan and Robert are not happy with. I'm not sure if they accept a patch for it, but you can try it anyway. regards Stefan Schmidt signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
Suggestion: "Static" WPA Networks
It seems that some users on the mailing list along with myself are having a similar problem:that is we need to connect to a particular WPA network that wpa_supplicant supports but network-manager does not.so, what if you could create some sort of /etc/nm- wpa.conf file that read like a wpa_supplicantconfiguration file, and network manager would add a menu option in the popup menu to connectto any networks you have explicitly defined in that file. This would make a nice temporary solution until the GUI configuration adds support for those protocols.As it is now, I have to disable NM, then pop open two command lines, one for wpa_supplicant,and another to run dhclient once wpa displays "Authenticated" The connection drops fairly frequently as well, with no indication except that my network apps stop working, then i haveto go back to my two terminals and do the same process over again, complete with retypingmy password for sudo. The entire process is a bit of a pain. If network-manager could handle networks that I manually define and configure, and reconnect automatically when they drop,it would make my life much easier.This would also make any improvements to wpa_supplicant effectively included and supported by NetworkManager instantly, even if it takes a while to update the interface.Thanks for making a great product,Zach Tibbitts - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://collegegeek.org ___ NetworkManager-list mailing list NetworkManager-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
