Re: VPNC plugin on Ubuntu 8.04: disable DPD?

2008-06-26 Thread Dan Williams
On Sat, 2008-06-07 at 12:51 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
 On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 08:36 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
 
 On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 12:19 +0200, Marc Luethi wrote:
  Hi all!
  [...]
 
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-vpnc/+bug/206000
  
  For now, I'd be happy if I could enable/disable
 network-manager-vpnc's
  DPD globally. 
  
  
  Can this be done?
 
 In Fedora's Bugzilla:
 
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=403661
 
 No action since I filed it last November.  I have to run vpnc by
 ^
 hand on those connections where DPD is an issue.
 
 The other thing I've noticed about this issue is that nobody on the
 NetworkManager team ever sees fit to comment when it comes up on the
 list.

Mainly because I don't have quite enough bandwidth to deal with every
issue right when it comes up, but it's probably useful to say This
option is probably a good idea, but I need to finish piece X of
NetworkManager first before I can look at it anyway.

I updated that bug report BTW.

Dan

 
 See also
 
 http://www.ces.clemson.edu/linux/f8-nm-iwl3945-B.shtml
 
 The other vpnc features that it would be good to be able to
 configure are NAT traversal mode selection and IPsec obfuscated
 secret support.
 
  thanks  best regards
  
  
  Marc
  
  
  
 
 

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Re: VPNC plugin on Ubuntu 8.04: disable DPD?

2008-06-26 Thread Dan Williams
On Thu, 2008-06-26 at 17:37 -0400, Dan Williams wrote:
 On Sat, 2008-06-07 at 12:51 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
  On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 08:36 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
  
  On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 12:19 +0200, Marc Luethi wrote:
   Hi all!
   [...]
  
  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-vpnc/+bug/206000
   
   For now, I'd be happy if I could enable/disable
  network-manager-vpnc's
   DPD globally. 
   
   
   Can this be done?
  
  In Fedora's Bugzilla:
  
  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=403661
  
  No action since I filed it last November.  I have to run vpnc by
  ^
  hand on those connections where DPD is an issue.
  
  The other thing I've noticed about this issue is that nobody on the
  NetworkManager team ever sees fit to comment when it comes up on the
  list.
 
 Mainly because I don't have quite enough bandwidth to deal with every
 issue right when it comes up, but it's probably useful to say This
 option is probably a good idea, but I need to finish piece X of
 NetworkManager first before I can look at it anyway.
 
 I updated that bug report BTW.

I also added NAT traversal mode stuff during the UI rewrite too.  For
obfuscated secret, I think you mean the group secret, right?

Dan

 Dan
 
  
  See also
  
  http://www.ces.clemson.edu/linux/f8-nm-iwl3945-B.shtml
  
  The other vpnc features that it would be good to be able to
  configure are NAT traversal mode selection and IPsec obfuscated
  secret support.
  
   thanks  best regards
   
   
   Marc
   
   
   
  
  
 
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Re: VPNC plugin on Ubuntu 8.04: disable DPD?

2008-06-26 Thread Matthew Saltzman

On Thu, 2008-06-26 at 17:37 -0400, Dan Williams wrote:
 On Sat, 2008-06-07 at 12:51 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
  On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 08:36 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote:
  
  On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 12:19 +0200, Marc Luethi wrote:
   Hi all!
   [...]
  
  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-vpnc/+bug/206000
   
   For now, I'd be happy if I could enable/disable
  network-manager-vpnc's
   DPD globally. 
   
   
   Can this be done?
  
  In Fedora's Bugzilla:
  
  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=403661
  
  No action since I filed it last November.  I have to run vpnc by
  ^
  hand on those connections where DPD is an issue.
  
  The other thing I've noticed about this issue is that nobody on the
  NetworkManager team ever sees fit to comment when it comes up on the
  list.
 
 Mainly because I don't have quite enough bandwidth to deal with every
 issue right when it comes up, but it's probably useful to say This
 option is probably a good idea, but I need to finish piece X of
 NetworkManager first before I can look at it anyway.

OK Thanks.  I understand there's a lot on your plate, but I thought I
recalled there was someone else handling the vpnc bit.

 
 I updated that bug report BTW.

'preciate it.

 
 Dan
 
  
  See also
  
  http://www.ces.clemson.edu/linux/f8-nm-iwl3945-B.shtml
  
  The other vpnc features that it would be good to be able to
  configure are NAT traversal mode selection and IPsec obfuscated
  secret support.
  
   thanks  best regards
   
   
   Marc
   
   
   
  
  
 
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Re: VPNC plugin on Ubuntu 8.04: disable DPD?

2008-06-26 Thread Matthew Saltzman

On Thu, 2008-06-26 at 17:42 -0400, Dan Williams wrote:

  
  I updated that bug report BTW.
 
 I also added NAT traversal mode stuff during the UI rewrite too.  For
 obfuscated secret, I think you mean the group secret, right?

Yes, correct.  I know it can be decrypted easily, but Management prefers
not to spread the word too widely 8^).

Are you planning a Fedora update soon, or should I try to build from
source to test?

 
 Dan
 
  Dan
  
   
   See also
   
   http://www.ces.clemson.edu/linux/f8-nm-iwl3945-B.shtml
   
   The other vpnc features that it would be good to be able to
   configure are NAT traversal mode selection and IPsec obfuscated
   secret support.
   
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Re: VPNC plugin on Ubuntu 8.04: disable DPD?

2008-06-19 Thread Marc Luethi
Hi all

On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 12:19 +0200, Marc Luethi wrote:
 Assuming that network-manager-vpnc is using vpnc behind the scenes, is
 there a way (a config file, perhaps?) to make the VPNC plugin set/unset
 this parameter? (I am no programmer - just a user...)

I have found a workaround solution which might help at least the Ubuntu
users affected by this issue.

In ubuntu Bug #206673
(https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vpnc/+bug/206673 ,
Chris has made .deb packages of VPNC available on launchpadlibrarian.net
that have the DPD timeout set to 0 by default. Installation on Ubuntu
was easy, just replacing vpnc from the repositories by this version.

This is a rough approach since it might cause conflicts with some VPN
configurations that need DPD and the user has to enable it explicitely
for these configurations; whereas it was enabled by default before.

Nonetheless it solves my problem for the time being.

regards

Marc





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Re: VPNC plugin on Ubuntu 8.04: disable DPD?

2008-06-19 Thread Dan Williams
On Thu, 2008-06-19 at 16:28 +0200, Marc Luethi wrote:
 Hi all
 
 On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 12:19 +0200, Marc Luethi wrote:
  Assuming that network-manager-vpnc is using vpnc behind the scenes, is
  there a way (a config file, perhaps?) to make the VPNC plugin set/unset
  this parameter? (I am no programmer - just a user...)
 
 I have found a workaround solution which might help at least the Ubuntu
 users affected by this issue.

I've added a Disable Dead Peer Detection option in 0.7 trunk.  I'd
take a patch that added it to 0.6.x if anyone comes up with one (even
just in GConf), otherwise I'll get around to it at some point.

Dan

 In ubuntu Bug #206673
 (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vpnc/+bug/206673 ,
 Chris has made .deb packages of VPNC available on launchpadlibrarian.net
 that have the DPD timeout set to 0 by default. Installation on Ubuntu
 was easy, just replacing vpnc from the repositories by this version.
 
 This is a rough approach since it might cause conflicts with some VPN
 configurations that need DPD and the user has to enable it explicitely
 for these configurations; whereas it was enabled by default before.
 
 Nonetheless it solves my problem for the time being.
 
 regards
 
 Marc
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: VPNC plugin on Ubuntu 8.04: disable DPD?

2008-06-07 Thread Matthew Saltzman

On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 08:36 -0400, Matthew Saltzman wrote:

On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 12:19 +0200, Marc Luethi wrote:
 Hi all!
 [...]

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-vpnc/+bug/206000
 
 For now, I'd be happy if I could enable/disable
network-manager-vpnc's
 DPD globally. 
 
 
 Can this be done?

In Fedora's Bugzilla:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=403661

No action since I filed it last November.  I have to run vpnc by
^
hand on those connections where DPD is an issue.

The other thing I've noticed about this issue is that nobody on the
NetworkManager team ever sees fit to comment when it comes up on the
list.

See also

http://www.ces.clemson.edu/linux/f8-nm-iwl3945-B.shtml

The other vpnc features that it would be good to be able to
configure are NAT traversal mode selection and IPsec obfuscated
secret support.

 thanks  best regards
 
 
 Marc
 
 
 


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VPNC plugin on Ubuntu 8.04: disable DPD?

2008-06-05 Thread Marc Luethi
Hi all!

First: If this is the wrong place to ask about the VPNC plugin, please
tell me to sod off and maybe leave a hint on where else to ask ;-)

After upgrading to Ubuntu 8.04, I am now using NetworkManager 0.6.6 with
nm-applet 0.6.6, and according to aptitude, I have 

network-manager-vpc 0.6.4svn2422-0ubuntu5 
vpnc0.5.1r275-1

I am running a Cisco PIX501 at home which does not support DPD (and
probably never will). Now I am affected by this problem:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-vpnc/+bug/206000


The currently installed vpnc supports disabling of the DPD feature:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ vpnc --long-help
[...]
  --dpd-idle 0,10-86400
  Send DPD packet after not receiving anything for idle seconds.
  Use 0 to disable DPD completely (both ways).
Default: 300
  conf-variable: DPD idle timeout (our side) 0,10-86400
[...]

Assuming that network-manager-vpnc is using vpnc behind the scenes, is
there a way (a config file, perhaps?) to make the VPNC plugin set/unset
this parameter? (I am no programmer - just a user...)

I know that DPD configuration should be possible on a per-connection
basis, as some VPN configurations will require DPD to be active - while
others might not.

There have been suggestions to use older versions of
network-manager-vpnc or different versions of network-manager
altogether, which is not what I'd like to do.

For now, I'd be happy if I could enable/disable network-manager-vpnc's
DPD globally. 


Can this be done?

thanks  best regards


Marc


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Re: VPNC plugin on Ubuntu 8.04: disable DPD?

2008-06-05 Thread Matthew Saltzman

On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 12:19 +0200, Marc Luethi wrote:
 Hi all!
 
 First: If this is the wrong place to ask about the VPNC plugin, please
 tell me to sod off and maybe leave a hint on where else to ask ;-)
 
 After upgrading to Ubuntu 8.04, I am now using NetworkManager 0.6.6 with
 nm-applet 0.6.6, and according to aptitude, I have 
 
 network-manager-vpc   0.6.4svn2422-0ubuntu5 
 vpnc  0.5.1r275-1
 
 I am running a Cisco PIX501 at home which does not support DPD (and
 probably never will). Now I am affected by this problem:
 
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-vpnc/+bug/206000
 
 
 The currently installed vpnc supports disabling of the DPD feature:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ vpnc --long-help
 [...]
   --dpd-idle 0,10-86400
   Send DPD packet after not receiving anything for idle seconds.
   Use 0 to disable DPD completely (both ways).
 Default: 300
   conf-variable: DPD idle timeout (our side) 0,10-86400
 [...]
 
 Assuming that network-manager-vpnc is using vpnc behind the scenes, is
 there a way (a config file, perhaps?) to make the VPNC plugin set/unset
 this parameter? (I am no programmer - just a user...)
 
 I know that DPD configuration should be possible on a per-connection
 basis, as some VPN configurations will require DPD to be active - while
 others might not.
 
 There have been suggestions to use older versions of
 network-manager-vpnc or different versions of network-manager
 altogether, which is not what I'd like to do.
 
 For now, I'd be happy if I could enable/disable network-manager-vpnc's
 DPD globally. 
 
 
 Can this be done?

In Fedora's Bugzilla:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=403661

No action since I filed it last November.  I have to run vpnc by hand on
those connections where DPD is an issue.

See also

http://www.ces.clemson.edu/linux/f8-nm-iwl3945-B.shtml

The other vpnc features that it would be good to be able to configure
are NAT traversal mode selection and IPsec obfuscated secret support.

 thanks  best regards
 
 
 Marc
 
 
 
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