[newbie] 2 Linux Computers

2002-03-19 Thread James Thomas


Hey all,

I have two linux computers both connected via a Netgear hub to my cable 
modem. They don't seem to be able to see each other. Anything I can do to 
accomplish this?

Thanks!

James

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Re: [newbie] 2 Linux Computers

2002-03-19 Thread Dan LaBine

James; Do both machines have Internet access? Unless you've got
something new, you should be running 2 network cards in one of the two
machines - 1 to the cablemodem, and the second network card (using a
crossover Cat5 cable) to a network card in the second machine. If that's
a cable/CDL router, and not a hub then what you're saying makes sense.
In either case, check out the following link and have a look at the
sections marked - setting up an NFS server - and - setting up an NFS
client. You'll have to do both (server and client) to each machine.

Lanman 

On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 04:11, James Thomas wrote:
 
 Hey all,
 
 I have two linux computers both connected via a Netgear hub to my cable 
 modem. They don't seem to be able to see each other. Anything I can do to 
 accomplish this?
 
 Thanks!
 
 James
 
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Re: [newbie] 2 Linux Computers

2002-03-19 Thread Brian Parish

James,

My guess is that you are using DHCP on both and that both can see the
Internet, but not each other.  Right?  If so, a better setup would be to
make one machine your internet gateway sing connection sharing and the
other a purely local machine.  Your gateway machine could also then be
the firewall, limiting your need to manage security to only one.

If this guesswork is accurate and you need help to make this happen,
have a stroll through the archives, where you'll find 1000 or so
messages about this, then come back with questions anyway ;-)

HTH
Brian

On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 20:11, James Thomas wrote:
 
 Hey all,
 
 I have two linux computers both connected via a Netgear hub to my cable 
 modem. They don't seem to be able to see each other. Anything I can do to 
 accomplish this?
 
 Thanks!
 
 James
 
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Re: [newbie] 2 Linux Computers

2002-03-19 Thread Nelson Bartley

Dude... you forgot the link :)
NB

On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 06:05, Dan LaBine wrote:
 James; Do both machines have Internet access? Unless you've got
 something new, you should be running 2 network cards in one of the two
 machines - 1 to the cablemodem, and the second network card (using a
 crossover Cat5 cable) to a network card in the second machine. If that's
 a cable/CDL router, and not a hub then what you're saying makes sense.
 In either case, check out the following link and have a look at the
 sections marked - setting up an NFS server - and - setting up an NFS
 client. You'll have to do both (server and client) to each machine.
 
 Lanman 
 
 On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 04:11, James Thomas wrote:
  
  Hey all,
  
  I have two linux computers both connected via a Netgear hub to my cable 
  modem. They don't seem to be able to see each other. Anything I can do to 
  accomplish this?
  
  Thanks!
  
  James
  
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Re: [newbie] 2 Linux Computers

2002-03-19 Thread Lanman

I hate it when that happens! Here's the link, dude!
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/NFS-HOWTO/

By the way, for those of you who don't know, you can start simplifying your
Linux-related searches by using Google's Linux search page;

www.google.com/linux - for the rest of you, and,...
www.google.ca/linux - for us Canucks. You'll find your Linux stuff much
faster!

Lanman

- Original Message -
From: Nelson Bartley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LM Newbie Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 6:36 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] 2 Linux Computers


 Dude... you forgot the link :)
 NB

 On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 06:05, Dan LaBine wrote:
  James; Do both machines have Internet access? Unless you've got
  something new, you should be running 2 network cards in one of the two
  machines - 1 to the cablemodem, and the second network card (using a
  crossover Cat5 cable) to a network card in the second machine. If that's
  a cable/CDL router, and not a hub then what you're saying makes sense.
  In either case, check out the following link and have a look at the
  sections marked - setting up an NFS server - and - setting up an NFS
  client. You'll have to do both (server and client) to each machine.
 
  Lanman
 
  On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 04:11, James Thomas wrote:
  
   Hey all,
  
   I have two linux computers both connected via a Netgear hub to my
cable
   modem. They don't seem to be able to see each other. Anything I can do
to
   accomplish this?
  
   Thanks!
  
   James
  
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Re: [newbie] 2 Linux Computers

2002-03-19 Thread James Thomas

Oh!, I didn't know I needed to do this. I thought if I just used a hub, I 
could do that! What's the link btw? Yeah, both machines have internet 
access.

James


James; Do both machines have Internet access? Unless you've got
something new, you should be running 2 network cards in one of the two
machines - 1 to the cablemodem, and the second network card (using a
crossover Cat5 cable) to a network card in the second machine. If that's
a cable/CDL router, and not a hub then what you're saying makes sense.
In either case, check out the following link and have a look at the
sections marked - setting up an NFS server - and - setting up an NFS
client. You'll have to do both (server and client) to each machine.

Lanman

On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 04:11, James Thomas wrote:
 
  Hey all,
 
  I have two linux computers both connected via a Netgear hub to my cable
  modem. They don't seem to be able to see each other. Anything I can do 
to
  accomplish this?
 
  Thanks!
 
  James
 
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Re: [newbie] 2 Linux Computers

2002-03-19 Thread James Thomas

Oh, I connect to each of them just fine but I want to be able to get files 
just by using cp, mv, or whatever without going over the internet.

James


Hi James! Don't know how much help I can be, I'm no networking expert, but
I have 2 linux boxes hooked up to a RP 114 netgear router, and I can ssh
into the other box from this one with no problem. What model hub are you
using?


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Re: [newbie] 2 Linux Computers

2002-03-19 Thread James Thomas

yeah, they both use DHCP. I pay an extra $6/month for both of them - I need 
both computers to be accessible online so I pay the extra money.

James


My guess is that you are using DHCP on both and that both can see the
Internet, but not each other.  Right?  If so, a better setup would be to
make one machine your internet gateway sing connection sharing and the
other a purely local machine.  Your gateway machine could also then be
the firewall, limiting your need to manage security to only one.

If this guesswork is accurate and you need help to make this happen,
have a stroll through the archives, where you'll find 1000 or so
messages about this, then come back with questions anyway ;-)

HTH
Brian

On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 20:11, James Thomas wrote:
 
  Hey all,
 
  I have two linux computers both connected via a Netgear hub to my cable
  modem. They don't seem to be able to see each other. Anything I can do 
to
  accomplish this?
 
  Thanks!
 
  James
 
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Re: [newbie] 2 Linux Computers

2002-03-19 Thread Roger Sherman

On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Lanman wrote:

 I hate it when that happens! Here's the link, dude!
 http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/NFS-HOWTO/
 
 By the way, for those of you who don't know, you can start simplifying your
 Linux-related searches by using Google's Linux search page;
 
 www.google.com/linux - for the rest of you, and,...

Nice! Thanks, I never knew aboot that...



 www.google.ca/linux - for us Canucks. You'll find your Linux stuff much
 faster!
 
 Lanman
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Nelson Bartley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: LM Newbie Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 6:36 AM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] 2 Linux Computers
 
 
  Dude... you forgot the link :)
  NB
 
  On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 06:05, Dan LaBine wrote:
   James; Do both machines have Internet access? Unless you've got
   something new, you should be running 2 network cards in one of the two
   machines - 1 to the cablemodem, and the second network card (using a
   crossover Cat5 cable) to a network card in the second machine. If that's
   a cable/CDL router, and not a hub then what you're saying makes sense.
   In either case, check out the following link and have a look at the
   sections marked - setting up an NFS server - and - setting up an NFS
   client. You'll have to do both (server and client) to each machine.
  
   Lanman
  
   On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 04:11, James Thomas wrote:
   
Hey all,
   
I have two linux computers both connected via a Netgear hub to my
 cable
modem. They don't seem to be able to see each other. Anything I can do
 to
accomplish this?
   
Thanks!
   
James
   
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Re: [newbie] 2 Linux Computers

2002-03-19 Thread Brian Parish

OK, my ESP is getting better ;-)

I see another reply has put you on the right track, but just to be
specific and avoid confusion

First let's make sure I understand what you have:

- 2 linux boxes
- 1 network card (NIC) in each
- a hub
- a cable modem

If that's correct, then what you need to do is:

1. Stop paying for a second connection
2. With the $6 / month you save, buy a second NIC for one machine - this
becomes the gateway
3. Leave one NIC in your gateway connected to the cable modem and
connect the other to your hub
4. Connect the machine with one NIC (let's call this the client) to the
hub

5. Set the IP address on your new gateway NIC (the one connected to the
hub) to 192.168.0.1 in subnet 255.255.255.0 - there are other
alternatives, but let's keep life simple and use that.

6. Set the IP address on your client machine to 192.168.0.2 - same
subnet

Now you can ping 192.168.0.1 from the client and 192.168.0.2 from the
gateway.  You can also share files between them by setting up some NFS
mounts, share printers etc.

Your gateway machine at this point has internet access, but not your
client, so two more steps are required to complete the picture.

1. Set up a route from your private subnet (255.255.255.0) to the public
side (the subnet to which the NIC connected to the cable modem belongs) 
webmin is probably the easiest tool to use for this.  Have a play with
that and come back to the list if you have trouble with it.

2. Set up a firewall on the gateway machine.  InteractiveBastille would
be a reasonable choice, but there are many others.  You'll find a
zillion message on that in the archives, so I won't blather on here
about the details.

Hopefully that's enough to get you on track and you can come back with
more specific questions as they arise.

HTH
Brian

On Wed, 2002-03-20 at 07:29, James Thomas wrote:
 yeah, they both use DHCP. I pay an extra $6/month for both of them - I need 
 both computers to be accessible online so I pay the extra money.
 
 James
 
 
 My guess is that you are using DHCP on both and that both can see the
 Internet, but not each other.  Right?  If so, a better setup would be to
 make one machine your internet gateway sing connection sharing and the
 other a purely local machine.  Your gateway machine could also then be
 the firewall, limiting your need to manage security to only one.
 
 If this guesswork is accurate and you need help to make this happen,
 have a stroll through the archives, where you'll find 1000 or so
 messages about this, then come back with questions anyway ;-)
 
 HTH
 Brian
 
 On Tue, 2002-03-19 at 20:11, James Thomas wrote:
  
   Hey all,
  
   I have two linux computers both connected via a Netgear hub to my cable
   modem. They don't seem to be able to see each other. Anything I can do 
 to
   accomplish this?
  
   Thanks!
  
   James
  
   _
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